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Oh hello. . Heard quite a few Tranmere fans rave about him and being a big reason behind Mellons success.

Also on Mikey- He has a relationship with the fans, he seems a great bloke and good character. That’s important at anytime, but especially when you’re trying to rebuild. I want a lot more with his non playing characteristics in the squad.

Actually it’s stones. Then Reid. Then Mikey. Still. I’m pleased for him.

Really chuffed for Mikey if this is true. 10 Goals. Best MPG of anyone at the club. Brilliant off the bench. The only one I would’ve kept who is OOC.

Gotcha. .

You’re killing me here. .

Can you elaborate fluff?

Well- Mellon says they are. They’re lovely people, but. . . Or maybe you’re right (I agree with you) and the picture Mellon paints is nowhere near as bad as he’d have us believe.

That’s exactly what he means, and the point I am making. He isn’t talking about the Reid Nuttall etc etc. He’s talking about players in the team who he can’t get rid of because he has other outgoings to sort first. First class motivation for the reaming players. .

A good example is Kitching. Not the same player since Christmas- I wonder why. He’s in contract. But while Mellon may not his attitude he has 5/6 other priorities to shift out first. So he needs him for next season, is Kitching going to go back to the pre Christmas player because he has a new left winger in front him. . . Not for me.

Next season- he will have in contract players that have played for him this season who he doesn’t rate. Kurt Nuttall Reid Shelton Ward They are all low hanging fruit and the first to be shifted. Forget those, they haven’t played for us months and will never play for us again. He isn’t talking about them. He is talking about players in the actual team that he doesn’t rate, but can’t get rid of. He will need some of them next season. . . would you put it in for a manager who clearly doesn’t rate you and the only reason your here is because he had to get rid of a handful of other players who he really really didn’t rate. Will the players from this season who he doesn’t rate start talking to the new players when they’re not in the side. . . He has shot himself in the foot in my view, and it’s going to bite him on the arse.

Eh? I never said that. You’ve literally made that one up. I said - ‘why would players (plural but not individual or everybody) he’s effectively (as in might as well have) called shit start to play for him If I could be arsed I’d give you the direct quotes where he said numerous times that many of the squad aren’t good enough, but there’s no point because you’ll ask me for more evidence or he might not mean what he says in the media. I saw your other reply, where you found the pissboil funny. I think you’re anti pissboil- nothing is much of a concern because it’s all part of an abstract bigger picture that no one really knows about because the club don’t communicate. This is what will happen, and if I’m wrong I will hold my hand up. We’ll get rid of a few in contract and Mellon will sign 6-8. (If not more) The majority will be older players. Next season the football won’t change. We’ll grind, results will be indifferent. Teams will out run us and look fitter, and we’ll still be struggling for pace in the side. Fans will get his on his back because results aren’t great and the football is poor and Mellon (with half a squad of his own signings) will be blaming everything but himself. Bookmark me on it.

Spot on. Even if half the squad can be changed he’s still got a half squad he’s said numerous times isn’t good enough. Why would players who haven’t performed him or effectively been called shit - suddenly start doing it for him. It doesn’t make any sense.

Double post.

Another big call you’ve got wrong. Meanwhile - I’m spot on.

Here’s my prediction. We’ll manage to get rid of a few contracted players over the summer. Magically (having told its will be nigh on impossible) Mellon will sign 6-8 players. The vast majority will be ‘experienced’ all over 28 and with their best days behind them. Having got more of the players he wants- taking his signings to half the squad, the style of football won’t change. We’ll grind and play hoof ball, and results will be indifferent. Mellon will say he knows what good looks like, but he can’t play the style he wants because he still has players he inherited, and it’s still a big job. The disconnect between Mellon and the fans will continue to intensify and we’ll start to really struggle. .

Exactly. I really don’t like this- we’re over budget, non of it is my fault, I haven’t got a magic wand, we’ll just have to hope we can do something. Resign then. Oh. You want your money. Right. Well stop bitching in the media, and get on with you what keep telling you already knew- it’s a big job.

Mellon won’t get that long, if results are poor and nor should he. Here’s the issue- I don’t care what mistakes have been made, that squad with some additions should be nowhere near consolidation. We won 2 games in 22 over two spells this season and finished 10th. You can be absolute dogshit and finish 7th. No one will convince me that’s things are so bad we just have accept midtable next season. Not a chance.

Mmmm, I was going to post similar. We’ve gone from very open with the fans to very quiet. No statement from the board to acknowledge mistakes and galvanise. Ambiguous retained list. The club are aware of socials, they can get a pulse for how fans are feeling- and it doesn’t make good reading. It all feels a bit them (DR and Mellon not the family) and us again.

Just seen the retained list. . . What am I missing? It reads factual and ambiguous. How can that be?? I wonder if they’ve said to a few- if no one moves, we can’t offer you anything. If players leave, we might come back to you with something?

Or he wanted a club two divisions higher. .

I wasn’t talking about ability, when he’s played regularly for us- he’s great for a couple of games, then always fades by game 3 or 4 to the point where the powerful runs, and the hustle and bustle becomes less and less. I’ve no problem with their partnership, they’re both pests and valuable squad players. But one is 37 next year, and the other has a poor engine. Id play them from the bench, but no issue if/ when they cover injury.

Norwood has had a far better career and is a much better footballer. Miley has a better MPG ratio than Norwood this season having played far fewer games. . . Norwood needs service- he’s that type of player. Mikey creates his own chances with power and physique. Both offer very different things, and in this team, at this time we need them both.

The problem Mikey has got is he isn’t capable of consistent 90 minute performances week in week out. He’s got a poor engine and that lets his touch down when he’s tired. He can be great in a one off game, or even better as first sub- someone who will run tired defenders ragged and rough them up a bit. I would definitely offer him a deal, but it would be first sub- not first team regular. It’s a massive if - but if we can offload Nuttall/Reid/Kurt. I want some pace next to Norwood, someone to do his running like stones did. Norwood & AN other as first pick. Garner & Mikey as replacements.

It wasn’t a catch up or ‘why haven’t we achieved’. They were asking about the finances and going through the books- Andy interviewed two of the lads on the pod last week and they gave their feedback from the meeting. (In a nutshell- without Frank we’re insolvent) OASF isn’t a fan thing where we get to ask the difficult questions. They are there for safeguarding- and as everybody trusts Frank and his family with looking after the club it’s had little interest. That shouldn’t be conflated (not saying you were) with what this thread is asking, which is different to safeguarding. This about acknowledging mistakes and trying to bring some positivity after a disaster interview and poor season.