True Tic

38 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

It might have been the 100th thing shouted at him.

 

I'd last about 2 minutes before telling someone to fuck off if they were shouting at me

I’d struggle too, but he’s got to remember those fans have been sat there enduring that crap a lot longer than he has, and they’re paying for the privilege 

37 minutes ago, scamp04 said:

Chesterfield fan in peace

Having done a 6 year stretch at this level it took us so long to get the formula right.

 

You remind me a lot of us in those first couple of seasons down here, we had Martin Allen in the first year and we just kept drawing games (I think 8 or 9 in a row at one point)

 

It's so difficult for a relegated side to get the  momentum back and one thing you definitely need is a positive manager. All of our players say how enthusiastic and positive Cook is and he's really lifted the fans since he came back.

 

Cook said when he came back constantly referred to our squad being too big, having 35 players at that point this season we've pretty much got through with a 23 man squad. I think I recognise that a little bit with you guys having a big squad this season. Trimming off the fat and getting quality in each area was key. We had a competitive budget this season but it was only the 3rd biggest in the league. (We only had two forwards all season don't forget )

 

This season I've also noticed is there doesn't seem to be any big egos anymore in the side. Cook has said this is the best set of personalities he's ever managed. When we first dropped to this level I can remember us signing players who were looking for one last pay day and thats never good. You need a mix of experience but still with the desire to do well (Grigg/Naylor/Jones) and the young upcoming (Dobra/Berry/Hobson)

 

The other thing you've got to do is get yourself out of the mindset that we should be beating (Altrincham/Bromley/Solihull) because of your clubs former football league history. We had a period of time where we showed a lack of respect for these sort of sides as players as well as fans. We regularly got frustrated to the point, that the players froze in home games and we relied on our away form to not drop out the league into the Conference North. Cook and Danny Webb prepare for every game as a tough one and that no one will be a push over.

 

The leagues also improved massively in terms of the brand of football whilst we've been down here and nowadays teams are more likely to get out of here playing good football. The other thing is that you'll get out this league by attacking we have conceded more than Kidderminster but have already scored 100 goals.

 

Prior to Cook coming in we were top of the league under James Rowe but the entire team was built around the goals of one player Kabongo Tshimanga who scored over 50 percent of the teams goals but, he then broke his leg and we had a terrible second half of the season. Cooks re-dressed that balance and most of the midfield have got 15-20 goal contributions (goals and assists) each this season. You've signed Norwood but, the balance seems to be wrong elsewhere.

 

You need pace as well, as some teams will be difficult to break down. Last season we kept the ball well but struggled to break teams down. We signed Colclough last season and Berry this season who are quick and we've used this to our advantage by rotating the front four to bring on quick players to run at tired legs late on.

 

The good news is that once you get it right, getting out of this league is completely rejuvenating for your club. It's an amazing feeling to finally get out of the most difficult league in the country!
 

Great post , saved me doing the research into other former league clubs  fortunes but we definitely aren’t unique being in this position at the moment. 

46 minutes ago, JohnnyPimp said:

Poor old Frank is beginning to understand the harsh reality that bad recruitment in football costs you a year’s worth of wages, rather than a month’s notice.

The contracts players are on, particularly the “ better “ players seem to be literally a guarantee of decent money regardless of what happens or how they perform. They do something totally stupid or fail

 to perform and they still have their contracts paid off?? It’s bizarre . 

I think he’s right about the group as a whole, many of them have won stuff before but they aren’t winners now . But 7 months in charge with literally no change in the product on the field has to be at his feet aswell . And of course stupid stuff gets shouted from the stands but come on, one win in 14!!! Get a grip and give us something to cheer about !! It’s your job !!! 

 

28 minutes ago, GKing521 said:

A depressing listen. This club is finished.

Stop it 

For the resources we have to hand, it’s bloody poor where we are. We can only hope things do fall into place somehow. Mellons previous tells me we should stick with him but 1 win 14 is it? That’s appalling . 

2 minutes ago, League one forever said:

Lads. .
 

Say what you want. 
 

Dissect what you want. 
 

He’s won 1 game in 14 - and any manager at any football is under massive pressure with that return. 

That’s True, what a shit show 

7 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Was anyone beating a path to his door last summer? Presumably his name was touted around to more than just us.

I thought Wrexham were after him 

2 minutes ago, League one forever said:

Someone Twitter has put- 

 

Nors wanted out in Jan because he was moaning about his deal, and wanted his win bonus putting in his base salary because we weren’t winning enough games, and wanted his taxi’s to and from Leeds paying because he’s banned from driving. 
 

Maybe it’s bollocks, but that’s a detailed thing to make up. 

I thought he lived this neck of the woods? 

1 minute ago, JoeP said:

Big Mike being shit AGAIN!!

he’s just awful isn’t he 

3 minutes ago, JoeP said:

 

He's better than a lot of people give him credit for - he gets ridicule because he hasn't had the relatively impressive career that that other fella has had.

 

Scores when we were crap last season.  Scores when we've been crap this season.  Offers something different - something that's probably more suitable for this level than the other strikers do.

 

He stays for next season, for me..

Exactly what I’ve always said, always rated him over Nuttall, stronger, better attitude . 
definitely stays next season but we do need a big forward in addition in my opinion. 

3 minutes ago, JoeP said:

There's Big Mike being shit again...

He’s not the messiah but I do wonder if we could have brought him on over the last few games what might have happened .

14 hours ago, yarddog73 said:

Anyone actually going?.

Nope

Everything is a gamble to some degree and nothing is ever guaranteed, particularly in this game, but bloody hell we’ve had some shite luck as a club. Unsworth was a gamble which didn’t pay off along with his signings. Lesson learned eventually and the board went for tried and tested , much lesser gamble this time but still hasn’t worked, brought some of his own players in who haven’t done much to change things. 
The mentality of the squad as a whole is the main problem for me closely followed by their ability. I thought Mellon would sort that, but he hasn’t . 
 

I don’t know what the answer is but I suppose we’ve finished our 2nd season in NL and other decent size clubs have languished here much longer than that. It’s not really a positive but we have to go again and hope that things fall into place and finally Lady Luck may pay us a long overdue visit . 

Just now, BP1960 said:

Let's be realistic, we are level but its  dreadful performance. 

The passing is non existence. Dallas doing a good impression of Nuttal, always second to the ball. 

Conlon half hearted, McGahey turning like a juggernaut.

Only Gardner showing anything.

The Halifax right back is the type we need.

We can't be having this next season.

 

We really can’t , this squad is powderpuff , it somehow has to be strengthened 

36 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

They had no reason to not turn up when Frank came home, none at all. They probably played in front of the best home atmosphere in a decade against Kidderminster and the day had a feel good factor about it, even when behind they were encouraged but didn't have it in them to show up, you wouldn't want some of them in the trenches with you that's for sure and that 'performance' has become a bit of a norm for this bunch. Give them an excuse and they'll hide behind it.

Yep, literally no excuses this time, everyone else has done their bit, fans owners etc, you’ll always get the clowns in the stand -deal with it within reason.
Give us something to get behind. 

12 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

 

I think the toxicity of our fanbase in the desperation for success is the reason why we've probably had the worst home record of any football league team over the past 30 years myself. Even when we had good teams.

You could be right although it’s a bit of a chicken and egg thing that for me.ive stood and sat with some idiots over the years in the stands but at some point the players/club have to deliver too. 

3 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Doesn't help when you've got the manager and captain telling fans to fuck off because they get all sensitive when someone points out they've been fucking useless and cruising for the past couple of months, add Hudson and McGahey to those who've had spats with fans and it's not difficult to buy into the Micky Mellon bull that he knows what an 'Oldham Athletic' team looks like, stories about Norwood haven't gone down too well amongst the diehards as well so it's not difficult to see why there is disconnect, I suspect season ticket sales are piss poor and for me it's up to those at the club to attempt to get everyone back on board because the last two months has been car crash. I'm surprised they are taking the 700's down south because it's been awful and bad enough watching it from my living room.

Don’t like players being targeted for stick but good grief some have earned an element of it this season.They need reminding this lot of what they are there for and who they are playing for and the fact we the fans have been monumentally let down by them at the crucial moment this season. I’ve never seen such a weak mentality collectively when you compare them to other teams we’ve had and that’s the biggest problem for me. It’s why I’m not at all surprised about the position we are currently in and missing the playoffs. 

Keep Fondop and Green for me. Although we are crying out for a big physical centre forward with the guile to go with it. Love big Mike but we just need someone with that bit of edge. 

To see what a close knit half decent side can do look at Southend, points deduction with a badly depleted squad, foot of the playoffs now with a goal difference of 26. 

The problem is the players for me, the “good” players are massively underperforming and the others just aren’t good enough. The mindset is pathetic for me, it’s weak and embarrassing. The drive to win and keep winning just isn’t in this lots remit. 

11 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Trace it all back to Boreham Wood where he publicly told everyone they thought they were shit.

He was right 

I stood and sat in the chaddy end for many years, but for me the RRE is the dominant stand now and has to be for the home supporters, unless that is they decide to rebuild the chaddy end . 

29 minutes ago, spanishfly said:

Conlon has looked awful each time I have seen him. Lundstram has looked like a bog standard non league player but it seems he had a better game today. If we want to get out of non-league we really do need far better midfielders than those we possess currently. Why do people think these same players are going to suddenly change? 

Conlon was excellent against Barnet at home, then that was that really 

Halifax Just bloody scored