Guest oa_exile Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 The same Martin Buchan who ended Colin Bell's career. He's not the most popular man amongst the C*ty fans. Are you sure it's the same Martin Buchan who played for the Latics in the 70's as did Paul Edwards who also played for the Latics in the 70's , I heard Paul was originally a paper boy who "came good" after reading the back pages and thought "You know what , I could do that" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Are you sure it's the same Martin Buchan who played for the Latics in the 70's as did Paul Edwards who also played for the Latics in the 70's , I heard Paul was originally a paper boy who "came good" after reading the back pages and thought "You know what , I could do that" If you mean this guy : http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1211204/ And this one : http://www.pauledwardscomedy.com/video.htm Then, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) The sooner all people who say we are in Greater Manchester are subjected to a red hot poker the better! We are in Greater Manchester, as are several other former Lancashire towns (including the city of Manchester.) When Greater Manchester council was abandoned, the county continued as an administrative region. Lancashire is similarly an administrative region (although possibly with a still functioning county council?), containing only a part of the old county territory. That doesn't mean that the towns that were formerly in Lancashire, such as our own, cannot regard themselves as historically Lancastrian. Edited May 23, 2008 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjkent Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 We are in Greater Manchester, as are several other former Lancashire towns (including the city of Manchester.) When Greater Manchester council was abandoned, the county continued as an administrative region. Lancashire is similarly an administrative region (although possibly with a still functioning county council?), containing only a part of the old county territory. That doesn't mean that the towns that were formerly in Lancashire, such as our own, cannot regard themselves as historically Lancastrian. The bottom line is, Corp, that whilst we still live in a free country I will always use Oldham Lancs. You are most welcome to regard yourself as a Manc or supporting a team in Greater Manchester if that lights your candle, but me, never. As regards our current club badge, I think it's fine as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 The bottom line is, Corp, that whilst we still live in a free country I will always use Oldham Lancs. You are most welcome to regard yourself as a Manc or supporting a team in Greater Manchester if that lights your candle, but me, never. As regards our current club badge, I think it's fine as it is. Yes-I quite clearly say above that we are obliged to regard ourselves as Mancs, as this 'lights my candle.' Although by a trick of the light, when you read my post it actually looks as if I merely explained that we are officially part of Greater Manchester as opposed to Lancashire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjkent Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yes-I quite clearly say above that we are obliged to regard ourselves as Mancs, as this 'lights my candle.' Although by a trick of the light, when you read my post it actually looks as if I merely explained that we are officially part of Greater Manchester as opposed to Lancashire. What is quite clear is that it's no surprise to me that a lot of other posters resort to personal comments when corresponding with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I was going to say that my postal address most certainly does not include the words "Greater Manchester". But seeing as I live in Cheshire, I don't suppose that's relevant. When I lived in Royton, my postal address was definitely, "Royton, Oldham, Lancs.". And I have to say I'm a bit more likely to identify with my postal address than with an organisational area for fire brigades and passenger transport authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 We are in Greater Manchester, as are several other former Lancashire towns (including the city of Manchester.) When Greater Manchester council was abandoned, the county continued as an administrative region. Lancashire is similarly an administrative region (although possibly with a still functioning county council?), containing only a part of the old county territory. That doesn't mean that the towns that were formerly in Lancashire, such as our own, cannot regard themselves as historically Lancastrian. So we agree that Lancashire is administered by a County Council. Please tell us which administrative body administers Greater Manchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I was going to say that my postal address most certainly does not include the words "Greater Manchester". But seeing as I live in Cheshire, I don't suppose that's relevant. When I lived in Royton, my postal address was definitely, "Royton, Oldham, Lancs.". And I have to say I'm a bit more likely to identify with my postal address than with an organisational area for fire brigades and passenger transport authorities. Postal addresses are for the purpose of sorting mail items, nothing to do with where people actually live. Once sorted the postman/woman ignores the postcode for delivery purposes.My post code is Derby but I live in Staffordshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 My post code is Derby but I live in Staffordshire. JUST. Keep your eyes peeled, they could sneekily push the boundary back a couple of hundred yards and you'll immediately have stepped back in time 50 years. I believe Edwina had plans to expand her evil empire at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) Oldham IS NOT in Greater Manchester. Greater Manchester was binned as a so called county years ago. Oldham is, and always has been in LANCASHIRE. Were you born stupid or did you have to train for it? Edited May 23, 2008 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) So we agree that Lancashire is administered by a County Council. Please tell us which administrative body administers Greater Manchester. We've agreed on nothing, hence the question mark in the relevant part of my original post. Don't take my word for it, look it up, children. Edited May 23, 2008 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I was going to say that my postal address most certainly does not include the words "Greater Manchester". But seeing as I live in Cheshire, I don't suppose that's relevant. When I lived in Royton, my postal address was definitely, "Royton, Oldham, Lancs.". And I have to say I'm a bit more likely to identify with my postal address than with an organisational area for fire brigades and passenger transport authorities. Parts of what was originally Cheshire are also in Greater Manchester. Stockport for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I've never heard so much garbage - bickering over administrative regions and political boundaries. FFS. Martin Buchan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I've never heard so much garbage - bickering over administrative regions and political boundaries. FFS. Martin Buchan? I know-but what can you say to people who decide for themselves where they live rather than simply checking the facts, and reply to anything apart from what you've actually written? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) Postal addresses are for the purpose of sorting mail items, nothing to do with where people actually live. Once sorted the postman/woman ignores the postcode for delivery purposes.My post code is Derby but I live in Staffordshire. I seem to remember that they once took a survey of people who live in "new" counties. The people of Cumbria (which is made up of parts of Lancs, Yorks, Westmorland and Cumberland) were most accepting of their new status. When I was living in Kendal I found this to be true; Kendalians would refer to themseves as Cumbrians. However, our postal code was LA (that's Lancaster not Los Angeles!!). I'm not really sure what this proves other than postal codes bear no relationship to where you live. Growing up in Staffordshire I too had a Derbyshire postcode. This has always irritated me and I used to leave it off any correspondence I entered into to! Incidentally, I am a Lancastrian. Although I can appreciate that anyone born in Oldham after 1/4/74 may consider themselves a "Greater (Than) Mancunian"!! But, as the man said, "It's not where you're from. It's where you're at." Edited May 23, 2008 by ThaiLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I seem to remember that they once took a survey of people who live in "new" counties. The people of Cumbria (which is made up of parts of Lancs, Yorks, Westmorland and Cumberland) were most accepting of their new status. When I was living in Kendal I found this to be true; Kendalians would refer to themseves as Cumbrians. However, our postal code was LA (that's Lancaster not Los Angeles!!). I'm not really sure what this proves other than postal codes bear no relationship to where you live. Growing up in Staffordshire I too had a Derbyshire postcode. This has always irritated me and I used to leave it off any correspondence I entered into to! Incidentally, I am a Lancastrian. Although I can appreciate that anyone born in Oldham after 1/4/74 may consider themselves a "Greater (Than) Mancunian"!! But, as the man said, "It's not where you're from. It's where you're at." None of this has anything to do with postcodes, by the way. The post office uses a different system of organisation entirely. Failsworth, for example, has been officially part of Oldham since 1974 and throughout that time, as it did before, has had a Manchester postcode. This is despite the fact that it was never a part of the city of Manchester prior to being shunted into Oldham. Parliamentary constituencies are different again. Failsworth has been in Openshaw, Oldham West and is now, I think, part of an Ashton constituency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I know-but what can you say to people who decide for themselves where they live rather than simply checking the facts, and reply to anything apart from what you've actually written? Corp, have you ever heard the phrase 'last word willie'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) Corp, have you ever heard the phrase 'last word willie'? Just check the facts and then nobody will need to have the last word. How can you not keep posting when people keep coming back at you with total rubbish? Edited May 23, 2008 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 The last word: Greater Manchester is a metropolitan county in North West England, with a population of 2.55 million.[2] It encompasses one of the largest metropolitan areas in the United Kingdom and comprises ten metropolitan boroughs: Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan, and the cities of Salford and Manchester. Greater Manchester was created on 1 April 1974 as a result of the Local Government Act 1972.[1] Greater Manchester is landlocked, and as a ceremonial county borders Cheshire (to the south-west and south), Derbyshire (to the south-east), West Yorkshire (to the north-east), Lancashire (to the north) and Merseyside (to the west). The Greater Manchester Urban Area is the United Kingdom's third most populous conurbation, and spans across most of the county's territory. Greater Manchester County Council was abolished in 1986, and so its districts (the metropolitan boroughs) are now effectively unitary authority areas. However, the metropolitan county, which is some 496 square miles (1,285 km²),[3] continues to exist in law and as a geographic frame of reference.[4] Several county-wide services are co-ordinated via the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities. Before the creation of the metropolitan county, the name SELNEC was used for the area, taken from the initials of "South East Lancashire North East Cheshire". Greater Manchester is an amalgamation of 70 former local government districts from the former administrative counties of Lancashire, Cheshire and Yorkshire, West Riding and several independent county boroughs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Manchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I wouldn't use wiki as a point of reference - very unstable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footy68 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Anybody can make an entry into wiki, stating almost anything you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I wouldn't use wiki as a point of reference - very unstable. For entries that people have an interest in altering, perhaps, but this appears to be a straight excerpt from an official infopiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) It appears.... Edit: Cool Twente avatar F68 Edited May 23, 2008 by rummytheowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiLatic Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 For entries that people have an interest in altering, perhaps, but this appears to be a straight excerpt from an official infopiece. แน่นอนครับ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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