opinions4u Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Just read this: "Walsall's League One home game with Swindon was also called off, with the decision coming an hour before the intended kick-off. Referee Carl Boyeson found the pitch covered in a thin layer of snow, and decided the surface would be too dangerous to play on." Now I've not seen the pitch and Mr Boyeson has, so it's his call. But based on this report, the game hasn't been called off because of a frozen pitch (which is clearly dangerous), but because of a "thin layer of snow". I can remember watching many games where the snow has been shoveled off the pitch, the pitch markings highlighted by completely removing the snow from the lines and entertaining football being played with the added excitement of an orange ball. Are refs a bit soft these days? Edited October 29, 2008 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 2 games were abandoned in League Two because of the snow, including Luton vs Bournemouth after 8 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Had a meeting with my dissertation supervisor today who's a Col U fan, he said their game should never have been called off. That said, after watching the pictures on SSN of the abandoned games...those ones were definately right to be called off. Couldn't see the white lines. EDIT: Although from looking at the pictures on the Cobblers fishal...I'm not sure which Sixfields he was at! Edited October 29, 2008 by jsslatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 If you can't see the lines then yes. If there is enough snow to hold the natural run of the ball - possibly. Get the orange balls back out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 i wtached this on sky sports news and it was postponed because the ball could not roll - which apparently is now criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 yellow balls back on saturday, not the same though is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) i wtached this on sky sports news and it was postponed because the ball could not roll - which apparently is now criteria So in the past, the use of a few shovels and a bit of hard work by ground staff was possible but we're not capable of such effort in this day and age? It's an odd one. If there's a blizzard blowing, no game. If the snow has fallen 10 minutes before kick off, no game. If the snow has been on the ground for a couple of hours, get your bloody finger out and clear the pitch!! Would they have played the game if Tranmere had been participating? Edited October 29, 2008 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 i wtached this on sky sports news and it was postponed because the ball could not roll - which apparently is now criteria It's only still the same criteria as if it rained heavy/waterlogged as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 It's only still the same criteria as if it rained heavy/waterlogged as well. Exactly, if the ball dosent roll properly, like a waterlogged pitch it will be called off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neiladamsheadband Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 If you can't see the lines then yes. If there is enough snow to hold the natural run of the ball - possibly. Get the orange balls back out agree the orange ball very rarely gets seen these days??????????????????????? rememebr games in the past and it was never a problem in doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 agree the orange ball very rarely gets seen these days??????????????????????? rememebr games in the past and it was never a problem in doing that Black and white kits with an orange ball.......them were the days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Exactly, if the ball dosent roll properly, like a waterlogged pitch it will be called off. Unless you're playing in a not very important tournament like Euro 2008... Messing with the game IMO. Next we'll be calling off games with high winds coz the ball won't drop where it should. This "roll of the ball"....what a crock of :censored:....you might as well prepare for a doubling of games cancelled this season if that's the rule coz after Xmas the pitches will be as poor as most seasons* * Unless you have a soooper doooper Desso system/pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Unless you're playing in a not very important tournament like Euro 2008... Messing with the game IMO. Next we'll be calling off games with high winds coz the ball won't drop where it should. This "roll of the ball"....what a crock of :censored:....you might as well prepare for a doubling of games cancelled this season if that's the rule coz after Xmas the pitches will be as poor as most seasons* * Unless you have a soooper doooper Desso system/pitch By 'roll of the ball' they mean that if it comes to a stop almost immediately, thus creating a 'hazard' as players then make unnatural twists/turns to get to the ball and tackling becomes dangerous. - Though i totally agree with you, it is turning it a bit mard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I loved watching football with snow on the pitch. It was scraped off the lines, which were painted blue and, of course, there was the orange ball. Latics 11 Southport 2 on Boxing day 1962 on a snow-covered BP pitch was the classic. The crowd was 14,662 and the lads went on to gain promotion to the Third Division - happy days! Jimmy Frizzell and Barry Martin search for the penalty spot before Martin scored in a 2-3 defeat to Carlisle United on 16th January 1965 (not 1964 as stated in the rarely wrong book 'One Hundred Years One Hundred Images One Ground') from which the picture has been borrowed. Note: the crowd of 4,950 was the second-lowest home crowd of the season - soft Oldhamers.!The lowest away crowd was 3,260 at QPR on 19th April - even softer Southerners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Didn't Rog the Dodge score the record breaking goal in the 4-0 win against Ipswich with an orange ball on the plastic fantastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Didn't Rog the Dodge score the record breaking goal in the 4-0 win against Ipswich with an orange ball on the plastic fantastic? If we played in the snow and Hughes fell over and broke his leg surely we would be blaming the ref? With health and safety these days its hard for refs to play on a dangerous surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgard Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Didn't Rog the Dodge score the record breaking goal in the 4-0 win against Ipswich with an orange ball on the plastic fantastic? yes he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 If we played in the snow and Hughes fell over and broke his leg surely we would be blaming the ref? With health and safety these days its hard for refs to play on a dangerous surface If the pitch isnt frozen then how is it dangerous ?? You could argue it is slippy....but any more slippy than a wet pitch...nope.... If the pitch isnt frozen and the ball can roll then I see no reason to call the game off.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 If the pitch isnt frozen then how is it dangerous ?? You could argue it is slippy....but any more slippy than a wet pitch...nope.... If the pitch isnt frozen and the ball can roll then I see no reason to call the game off.... Spot on, and while on the subject of slippery surfaces, the watering of the pitch shortly before kick-off and at half-time is a groin strain waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 But the ball couldn't roll hence the postponement. The ball not rolling leads to higher chance of mistimed dangerous challenges. Also not being able to see the lines is an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_b_100 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 yellow balls back on saturday, not the same though is it But better thanyellow snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 But the ball couldn't roll hence the postponement. The ball not rolling leads to higher chance of mistimed dangerous challenges. Also not being able to see the lines is an issue If it's a "light covering of snow" the ball should be able to roll. If not, get the shovels out and ask some fans to help clear the pitch to make the thing roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Snow was still falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 If the pitch isnt frozen and the ball can roll then I see no reason to call the game off.... Barely a covering and the ball is rolling in picture 3. http://www.ntfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Galle...1408613,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prendy_1984 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Good picture to show a ball is rolling. I think the fact both managers spoke on SSN and said they felt it was the correct decision suggests the Ref was right to call it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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