Lookers_Carl Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The donkey lashers aint happy at all, apparently they refused his resignation which he tendered at 8.30 this morning, and are now considering legal action against both Grayson and Leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The donkey lashers aint happy at all, apparently they refused his resignation which he tendered at 8.30 this morning, and are now considering legal action against both Grayson and Leeds Sue the cheating, robbing, billy big boll@@@@ scum from Yorkshire!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Kick in the teeth for Blackpool - their manage leaves a mid-table Championship side to manage a team a division below. If that was us - we'd be gutted. Good manage Grayson - can see Leeds turning round. Where were Blackpool at this stage in the season they went up? A lot lower than Leeds. As for Blackpool - cannot see Sheriden even being in their thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Official Statement From Blackpool Blackpool FC can confirm that Simon Grayson tendered his resignation at 0830 on Tuesday morning. The resignation was not accepted by the board of directors and the club and are now considering legal action against both Simon Grayson and Leeds United. A more detailed statement will be made later in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigfinLatic Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) Official Statement From Blackpool Blackpool FC can confirm that Simon Grayson tendered his resignation at 0830 on Tuesday morning. The resignation was not accepted by the board of directors and the club and are now considering legal action against both Simon Grayson and Leeds United. A more detailed statement will be made later in the day. Just speaking from an employment law point of view... surely it is illegal not to accept someones resignation? There are obvious issues with contractual notice periods if applicable... however there is no way someone can sue for brach of contract on resignation, but possible enforcement of gardening leave may be appropriate... all this is about is the lashers trying to cover their own backside to the fans, and trying to get Leeds to pay more compo... illegal approach legal action is also a possibility... However, as we all know football has different rules to the real world... Leeds prove that by still being in existance... Edited December 23, 2008 by BigfinLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Just speaking from an employment law point of view... surely it is illegal not to accept someone resignation? There are obvious issues with contractual notice periods is applicable... however ethically that statement is incorrect... and stinks of the lashers trying to cover their own backside to the fans... However, as we all know football has different rules to the real world... Leeds prove that by still being in existance... It's all about gaining the best compensation deal out of Leeds now. No doubt Grayson's new deal says "we'll sort out Blackpool for you". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Just speaking from an employment law point of view... surely it is illegal not to accept someone resignation? There are obvious issues with contractual notice periods is applicable... however ethically that statement is incorrect... and stinks of the lashers trying to cover their own backside to the fans... However, as we all know football has different rules to the real world... Leeds prove that by still being in existance... Apparently Leeds offered 200k compensation which is a hell of alot considering Graysons contract was due to expire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 i would say he's every right to resign from a contract,but its the case of not giving an appropiate period of notice thats blackpoo's reason to be upset. can see this getting very messy and i can't see the football league allowing this appointment yet because there are issues... so come on the powers at be at the football league and the legal system.... drag it on and on and on and on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Just speaking from an employment law point of view... surely it is illegal not to accept someones resignation? There are obvious issues with contractual notice periods if applicable... however there is no way someone can sue for brach of contract on resignation, but possible enforcement of gardening leave may be appropriate... all this is about is the lashers trying to cover their own backside to the fans, and trying to get Leeds to pay more compo... illegal approach legal action is also a possibility... However, as we all know football has different rules to the real world... Leeds prove that by still being in existance... managers contracts are usually fixed terms, and if it didn't have a resignation notice period then he has no facility to resign and no facility to take up employment elsewhere. As it's likely to have had similar terms the other way it probably would be deemed a fair contract. Plenty of managers have "left" clubs but still been paid to the end of their contract, whilst being unable to take up another job as they are still contracted to the club they've "left". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Apparently Leeds offered 200k compensation which is a hell of alot considering Graysons contract was due to expire. pah! didn't leeds get £1.5 million for poison dwarf leaving??? c'mon blackpoo ...hold out lads!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 managers contracts are usually fixed terms, and if it didn't have a resignation notice period then he has no facility to resign and no facility to take up employment elsewhere. As it's likely to have had similar terms the other way it probably would be deemed a fair contract. Plenty of managers have "left" clubs but still been paid to the end of their contract, whilst being unable to take up another job as they are still contracted to the club they've "left". Unless blackpool give him permission or he has some form of clause in there, which judging from how blackpool are reacting, he obviously hasnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Leeds say there was no clause. Blackpool say there was. Blackpool reject resignation. He takes job regardless. Blackpool kick up a fuss. End result, Blackpool get a bit more money in compo than they would have got to keep quiet. They were moaning all summer about Gorkss and tapping up. Then they sold him, got a loanee thrown in and dropped the charge they'd put forward to the FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Leeds say there was no clause. Blackpool say there was. Blackpool reject resignation. He takes job regardless. Blackpool kick up a fuss. End result, Blackpool get a bit more money in compo than they would have got to keep quiet. They were moaning all summer about Gorkss and tapping up. Then they sold him, got a loanee thrown in and dropped the charge they'd put forward to the FA. Cynic. Spot on too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Cynic. Spot on too. Well come on! Not like they've got previous in kicking up a fuss and then backing down is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The world of football and employment law has always been a mystery to me. Managers get "sacked", but in essence they get paid their contract in full and leave the club as far as I can tell. When clubs are going through difficult times financially they don't appear to be able to do what other companies do and make people redundant. Why can't a club say, actually we cannot afford 26 professionals, we are making 6 redundant and continue on with a reduced playing staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Somehow I dont think notice periods will be built into managers contracts. You sign a three year contract, you work a three year contract. IMO the notice would be the period to the end of their contract when they can walk anyway. Lets hope Leeds get slammed for this.... might go a little way to comforting me about the meagre penny in a pound they paid of their tax bill. God i hate Ken Bates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) God i hate Ken Bates. Clever chap, really. He's got them a reduced tax rate. They turned 23M over last season and earned a reported 4M profit. They charge the majority of away fans £27. They've taken a manager from a higher league without getting permission to speak to him too. He doesn't care. He knows full well a few quid will sort it all out. A few quid that is essentially tax money. Edited December 23, 2008 by RoytonBlueLad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Clever chap, really. He's got them a reduced tax rate. They turned 23M over last season and earned a reported 4M profit. They charge the majority of away fans £27. They've taken a manager from a higher league without getting permission to speak to him too. He doesn't care. He knows full well a few quid will sort it all out. A few quid that is essentially tax/our money. Make Bates Chancellor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) Make Bates Chancellor! I doubt he'd get away with so much then. On second thoughts..... As easy as it is to hate him, he's turned things round financially there. The penny in the pound didn't have to be accepted. It was though and they then turn over 4M profits. No doubt he is taking a tidy cut himself. Edited December 23, 2008 by RoytonBlueLad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I doubt he'd get away with so much then. On second thoughts..... As easy as it is to hate him, he's turned things round financially there. The penny in the pound didn't have to be accepted. It was though and they then turn over 4M profits. No doubt he is taking a tidy cut himself. i'd deduct 15 points from the bastards, looks like there cheating again to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 well done to larry anyway. you are next in the long list of very well paid off ex-leeds utd failed managers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 He has only been the manager for a matter of hours, and on BBC forums their already calling it a bad appointment!!! Their a league 1 club, who the frig did they expect, Mouriniho?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekWilson_1968 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 He has only been the manager for a matter of hours, and on BBC forums their already calling it a bad appointment!!! Their a league 1 club, who the frig did they expect, Mouriniho?? Ever read WACCOE Carl? It should really be called WACKO. They really do still believe they are Gods gift. You should have seen some of the names touted about on there. The one thing I will give 'em though is that they.... Ah :censored: 'em, they are a bunch of c**nts. Derek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The world of football and employment law has always been a mystery to me. Managers get "sacked", but in essence they get paid their contract in full and leave the club as far as I can tell. When clubs are going through difficult times financially they don't appear to be able to do what other companies do and make people redundant. Why can't a club say, actually we cannot afford 26 professionals, we are making 6 redundant and continue on with a reduced playing staff? They can, according to the employments laws. They just can't carry on playing in the same league as they used to. managers contracts are usually fixed terms, and if it didn't have a resignation notice period then he has no facility to resign and no facility to take up employment elsewhere. As it's likely to have had similar terms the other way it probably would be deemed a fair contract. Plenty of managers have "left" clubs but still been paid to the end of their contract, whilst being unable to take up another job as they are still contracted to the club they've "left". I think a contract with no redundancy notice would be considered in law to have a standard period, and one that forbade you to leave a job all all within the full length would be struck down straight away, it would be a modern day endentured labour, one step away from the sort of slavery that young Mr Ronaldo feared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Blackpool statement. I like the last bit in particular: 'The board feels Leeds United have acted completely unprofessionally and underhandedly and have shown a total disregard for the rules and regulations that govern football'. No change there, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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