Scapegoat Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 The shot by Gregan at the end that just went the wrong side of the post was an agonising opportunity missed to take 3 points out of todays game - which I think we deserved, but at the moment that appears to be the way its going at the moment at home. But it got me thinking about the contribution our defenders make to the Goals Scored column - and its not good. 1 from Ruben and 1 from Jones. That is it. Given we have the highest number of corners in the division (and another 19 today) its amazing that our centre backs are not bagging a few goals each. I'd expect 4-6 goals a season from a player like Gregan from set plays. I'd also expect a 2 -3 from the full backs from linking up with the midfield and getting a bit adventurous (Lomax had a chance late on). Not sure what the cause is - but if the defense contributed a little more, perhaps we might have nicked a winner in a few more of the home draws this season. As for the game / position. Yet more frustration at home, but I think I feel less frustrated having seen the game at Crewe. More and more this season is reminding me of the Dowie play-off season - average at home, but good away. We are 5th, and 4 pts clear of 7th. Decent enough. See you at the Mamas and Papas stadium on Saturday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheridans_world Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Agree. Totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 The shot by Gregan at the end that just went the wrong side of the post was an agonising opportunity missed to take 3 points out of todays game - which I think we deserved, but at the moment that appears to be the way its going at the moment at home. But it got me thinking about the contribution our defenders make to the Goals Scored column - and its not good. 1 from Ruben and 1 from Jones. That is it. Given we have the highest number of corners in the division (and another 19 today) its amazing that our centre backs are not bagging a few goals each. I'd expect 4-6 goals a season from a player like Gregan from set plays. I'd also expect a 2 -3 from the full backs from linking up with the midfield and getting a bit adventurous (Lomax had a chance late on). Not sure what the cause is - but if the defense contributed a little more, perhaps we might have nicked a winner in a few more of the home draws this season. As for the game / position. Yet more frustration at home, but I think I feel less frustrated having seen the game at Crewe. More and more this season is reminding me of the Dowie play-off season - average at home, but good away. We are 5th, and 4 pts clear of 7th. Decent enough. See you at the Mamas and Papas stadium on Saturday! I kinda see what you're saying, but i'd personally be happier seeing them keeping clean sheets than scoring and hoping the goals are being provided by 1 of the 6 guys in front of 'em! 19 corners and not a sniff though is a bit tosh! Defensively as a team as a whole, we are looking pretty solid at the moment - build on that and you ain't going to be far away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Our goals for column doesn't look that bad to me. Yes, I'd like Hazell and Gregan to win the occasional header from one of our corners, but if we have the right creativity in front of the back 4, then I don't care who gets on the end of it. Our midfielders have scored several more goals this season than last. More important is how we turn the screw on weaker opponents and ensure draws at home are converted in to wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticNik Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Our full backs don't overlap anymore, that's the thing. When did you last see Lomax bomb past Taylor? He just gives him the ball and that's his job done. Same, but to a lesser extent, Eards. And corners...pathetic. What Shez thinks during the week I'll never know? What is it with the short corner? More often than not we try a risky ball to the full back rather than getting it in the mixer. Remember Stockport away? Jones miscontrolled as the last man and they broke, nearly scoring! And when they do go in the box everyone does their own thing. Gregan just makes a run, that's it, and the ball reaches the box as he's reached the front post. It's all in the...timing! And desire. How did Neal Trotman get his head on every corner? Not because he was telepathic but because he wanted it. Scunny showed us how to do it. All centre halves and strikers in a group outside the box and they bomb in as the ball is put on the penalty spot. At least one of them will get it. Sure to beat a defender who's from a standing jump and with momentum any kind of contact is dangerous. E4e DATEZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 We're crap at set pieces. Corners, free kicks and throw ins. We always have been under Shez - just doesn't look like we train them or have any plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticNik Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 We're crap at set pieces. Corners, free kicks and throw ins. We always have been under Shez - just doesn't look like we train them or have any plan. We don't pratice throw ins? Come on, standing that motionless can't be easy! E4e STATU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 We're crap at set pieces. Corners, free kicks and throw ins. We always have been under Shez - just doesn't look like we train them or have any plan. I am sick to death of saying we are crap at throw-ins, been saying it for years, going back to Joe we have not been able to master man standing with ball in hands throwing it to a team-mate. Not "at" a team-mate so it arrives chest height or with more force than Hurricane Katrina but so the receiver can easily control it and then start an attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Our full backs don't overlap anymore, that's the thing. When did you last see Lomax bomb past Taylor? He just gives him the ball and that's his job done. Same, but to a lesser extent, Eards. And corners...pathetic. What Shez thinks during the week I'll never know? What is it with the short corner? More often than not we try a risky ball to the full back rather than getting it in the mixer. Remember Stockport away? Jones miscontrolled as the last man and they broke, nearly scoring! And when they do go in the box everyone does their own thing. Gregan just makes a run, that's it, and the ball reaches the box as he's reached the front post. It's all in the...timing! And desire. How did Neal Trotman get his head on every corner? Not because he was telepathic but because he wanted it. Scunny showed us how to do it. All centre halves and strikers in a group outside the box and they bomb in as the ball is put on the penalty spot. At least one of them will get it. Sure to beat a defender who's from a standing jump and with momentum any kind of contact is dangerous. E4e DATEZ And what's more we beat Scunny 3-0... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticNik Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 And what's more we beat Scunny 3-0... How could I forget the last decent game I saw at BP? E4e ZZZZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelylaticsfaninaus Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Anyone else on here old enough to remember Maurice Whittle and Ian Wood? Great full backs who chipped in with a fair few goals, especially Whittle. Think a few of his were from corners, if I remember right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticNik Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 More recently Pointon could launch a throw in and he couldn't half take a mean corner. David James and Tim Flowers can justify there. E4e DISSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 We're crap at set pieces. Corners, free kicks and throw ins. We always have been under Shez - just doesn't look like we train them or have any plan. Disagree about free-kicks - we've had some really inventive ones this seson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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