Macca Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 What are the Trust doing at the moment and what are their plans for the future? Things have gone a bit quiet again and with not much improvement in things OAFC it would be good to hear some positive news/ideas from the Trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 What are the Trust doing at the moment and what are their plans for the future? Things have gone a bit quiet again and with not much improvement in things OAFC it would be good to hear some positive news/ideas from the Trust. Hi Macca Will be happy to answer that the best I can. Regarding what we have been doing, as you know myself and Rick have been working hard on our new website which was launched last month and will become the key platform of communication for the trust. WE have also recently bought some equipment for groundsman Lee Williams which the club had currently been renting in the form of two specialist mowers. We had a meeting on Thursday and we are presently looking into raising the funds needed to buy a new minibus for the youth team. As you are aware, the previous one was stolen from the Training ground and burned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 Hi Macca Will be happy to answer that the best I can. Regarding what we have been doing, as you know myself and Rick have been working hard on our new website which was launched last month and will become the key platform of communication for the trust. WE have also recently bought some equipment for groundsman Lee Williams which the club had currently been renting in the form of two specialist mowers. We had a meeting on Thursday and we are presently looking into raising the funds needed to buy a new minibus for the youth team. As you are aware, the previous one was stolen from the Training ground and burned out. Good to hear, thought the mowers were bought by the club but I must have not read the article in full. Good to hear the Trust are involved in buying equipment to help the club. It's not exactly Leo Messi but it's good that things are happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Good to hear, thought the mowers were bought by the club but I must have not read the article in full. Good to hear the Trust are involved in buying equipment to help the club. It's not exactly Leo Messi but it's good that things are happening. There will be an aritcle up on that in the near future on the website. I am also working on an initiative to get some views from the fans in the form of an article of somesort onto the trust site, although OWTB members would be more than welcome to contribute, I would like to pitch it more towards fans who do not post regularly on OWTB/do not have an account on owtb, as at the end of the day, from our hardcore support of 3000 or so, only 100-200 regularly read/post on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookers87 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hi Macca Will be happy to answer that the best I can. Regarding what we have been doing, as you know myself and Rick have been working hard on our new website which was launched last month and will become the key platform of communication for the trust. WE have also recently bought some equipment for groundsman Lee Williams which the club had currently been renting in the form of two specialist mowers. We had a meeting on Thursday and we are presently looking into raising the funds needed to buy a new minibus for the youth team. As you are aware, the previous one was stolen from the Training ground and burned out. As an addition, I set up a fundraising code for Happy Sweet Shop which should help trust fundraising projects, could I suggest that a promo/comp to push this may help...the past helping the future as it were... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 We had a meeting on Thursday and we are presently looking into raising the funds needed to buy a new minibus for the youth team. As you are aware, the previous one was stolen from the Training ground and burned out. Was it not insured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Was it not insured? My sentiments exactly- I hope it was (otherwise it wouldn't be legal) but maybe we cut corners to "save" money by not ticking the box which says third party, fire and theft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Was it not insured? You would hope so, although it's more than possible that the insurance value is relatively small and there is a preference to replace the lost vehicle with something brand new. I don't know of any motor policies offering new for old insurance cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 What are the Trust doing? I believe the Trust's strategy (and fundraising) should be aimed at preparedness to help the club when the current owners have departed, instead of apparently just subsidising their relatively deep pockets in the present and imagining that the future will be rosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 What are the Trust doing? I believe the Trust's strategy (and fundraising) should be aimed at preparedness to help the club when the current owners have departed, instead of apparently just subsidising their relatively deep pockets in the present and imagining that the future will be rosy. Good point. Any thoughts from the Trust on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Good point. Any thoughts from the Trust on this one? Yes, schizophrenic ones IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 What are the Trust doing? I believe the Trust's strategy (and fundraising) should be aimed at preparedness to help the club when the current owners have departed, instead of apparently just subsidising their relatively deep pockets in the present and imagining that the future will be rosy. Spot on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Re the minibus, yes it was insured (the club would be in serious trouble if it wasnt), but when Trust Oldham initially bought the minibus for the club, the trust did not retain ownership. The ownership was passed onto the club. And like with most car insurance policies, if your vehicle is written off, your insurance will pay you the market value. I don't know the exact figures as the Trust bought the minibus long before I got involved. I think the minibus was in the region of 6-7 years old, hence will have lost a fair bit of its value. What we are looking to raise is money in addition to what the club received from the insurance, so that the club can purchase a new minibus for the youth team. As I aid I am not involved in the subcomittee assigned to this task at the moment, but I believe the sum we need to raise is well over 10k. My role at the moment, as well as maintaining and running our new website, is to look at means of increasing revenue for the trust, and the agreement we made with lookers87/Happy Sweet Shop (which as a Trust we are very grateful for) is one of a few I hope to make with local businesses to help increase our revenue. Re Garcons point, not much I personally can say except point very well made, and a point I have very much taken, but an opportunity came along at a time when the club is suffering from a loss in revenue as a result of lower gates and the very harsh winter we have just had to help the club in this respect, the decision was made amongst directors to offer the club the cash for the mowers, and the club accepted with thanks. One thing I will say about our Trust Directors, is that we are first and foremost Latics supporters. We all hold our own opinions. Most of the directors are season ticket holders and have been for some time. We most certainly do not agree on everything and we are most certainly not nodding dogs. And we all give what free time we can to contribute to the running of Trust Oldham. My inbox on here is always open, and I will do my best to answer questions posted in the trust forum or via PM (in fact I wish a few more people would PM me/us more often, as I would be only to happy to answer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Regarding revenue What sort of money does the trust have to play with ? Also what are the current active membership numbers ? aka current paid up members this season. I just looked on the trust website and it is only £5 to join the trust per year. That is incredibly low. Edited March 24, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks to Lookers_Carl for taking the time to explain what is going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Regarding revenue What sort of money does the trust have to play with ? Also what are the current active membership numbers ? aka current paid up members this season. I just looked on the trust website and it is only £5 to join the trust per year. That is incredibly low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Have seen the question you posted 0000, am a bit tied up at the moment but once I can get some info together, will try to post a reply as detailed as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Have seen the question you posted 0000, am a bit tied up at the moment but once I can get some info together, will try to post a reply as detailed as I can. That would be cool.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Okies, firstly apologies for the late reply. Re the £££ available to the Trust at the moment. At this moment in time I can’t give you an exact answer as to what is in the bank balance, but our accounts are currently with an independent accountant and once he is finished with them we will be in a position to call an AGM and I will be able to give you an exact answer. I believe the minutes from our AGM will be posted up onto our website as soon as they are available. Slightly expanding on finances, like a lot of private organisations, our income streams have been hit by the recession. For example, as from 2008 we had to stop running our annual Christmas dinner, which often turned in a decent four figure profit, but at £35 a head, we felt it was too much to ask people to pay in hard times, hence the change in strategy to a question of Latics, which was £12/10 including a potato pie supper. Again although we did turn in a profit with both events so far, I believe the profit from both of the events added together was still considerably less than we would make at our Christmas dinner. Regarding the membership numbers, again I don’t know the exact number, but I do know it is nowhere near as high as it once was, but this is something we are working very hard to remedy. We have recently redistributed a number of key roles within the Trust to directors who are able to give the time to these roles in order to fulfil them sufficiently, one of which is membership directors. Richard and Mark are now responsible for membership related matters and they are both working very hard to improve both the membership base and the system we have in place to administrate membership. We are currently in the process of setting up a new membership database, and in the near future we will be pushing new memberships heavily on the website and through other media sources. Just a reminder also, regarding our meetings. We meet the third Thursday of every month. The first half an hour of every meeting is open to any members who wish to attend and as questions. If anybody has any questions they would like asking at the meeting but cannot attend, please email information@trustoldham.co.uk no later than 12pm on the day of the meeting, and we will do our best to reply as soon as possible. The dates for the meetings this year are as follows 15th April 20th May 17th June 15th July 19th Aug 16th September 21st Oct 18th Nov 16th Dec. I hope this answers some of your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny punkster Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Was it not insured? 3rd party or fully comp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 I hope this answers some of your questions. Well first thanks for the reply. Your responses are something of a refreshing change. Posting of AGM and other meeting minutes would be a great idea. Regarding the questions, you did not really answer them. I am happy to wait for the accounts to come back to get a report on the current money available to the trust. Regarding Membership though I wish to push this issue. You say the levels are greatly down, but what is the actual number ? Considering the dramatic drop in membership, can the trust claim to have the support of the fan base ? Can Barry continue to claim to be the fans representative ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Thanks for those details Carl - it seems like things are beginning to move in the right direction. Maybe it's time to give the Trust a chance. It's easier to change from the inside, and I would advocate those with a serious interest in what happens at the club over the next few years should respond to the upcoming membership campaign and join up. The Trust needs new blood to continue and build on the changes it has begun. And the more new blood that gets involved the more likely there will be a meaningful election involving at least two candidates when the post of chairman is up for election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Thanks for those details Carl - it seems like things are beginning to move in the right direction. Maybe it's time to give the Trust a chance. It's easier to change from the inside, and I would advocate those with a serious interest in what happens at the club over the next few years should respond to the upcoming membership campaign and join up. The Trust needs new blood to continue and build on the changes it has begun. And the more new blood that gets involved the more likely there will be a meaningful election involving at least two candidates when the post of chairman is up for election. A reasonable call... Is the entire trust prepared to resign and advertise said elections this time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 A reasonable call... Is the entire trust prepared to resign and advertise said elections this time ? Well I can't see my resignation leading to a rush of applicants volunteering to run the Trusts website, but if anyone so badly wants to oust me from this position then volunteer now Well there are currently nine active directors and thats including 0000's favourite We have the following areas covered Community liason Events organiser Webmaster Membership administrator Finance directors Legal directors We still have plenty of room on the board of directors to elect more, and would be more than willing to welcome on board people willing to help, at the mo especially those with experience in fund-raising and generating B2B revenue. Would be more than welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Well I can't see my resignation leading to a rush of applicants volunteering to run the Trusts website, but if anyone so badly wants to oust me from this position then volunteer now Its not about ousting... I would expect most directors would be immediately returned to there seats. Its about starting a fresh... Regaining support and trust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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