reeeeuuuubbbbs! Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 In my opinion Stephens has not been as effective in the last few games as he was late last season/early doors vs Tranmere and Notts County. I'm not slagging him off because I think he's a good player but I think maybe he has got into a comfort zone and thinks he is a definite starter? Maybe a reality check and drop him to the bench would do him no harm, and then either bring JJ in as a straight replacement or bring Jones into the middle with Taylor right and Lewi left. Thoughts folks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laticsbiffo Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 In my opinion Stephens has not been as effective in the last few games as he was late last season/early doors vs Tranmere and Notts County. I agree on this point and have to relate this to when Lewi Allesandra has been on the pitch. Lewi has brought the midfield into the game better than any other player this season. Simple correlation for me, when Lewi is playing we play better. Would like to see Taylor on right and Lewi on left as I feel this will stretch opposition better than any other combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 In my opinion Stephens has not been as effective in the last few games as he was late last season/early doors vs Tranmere and Notts County. I'm not slagging him off because I think he's a good player but I think maybe he has got into a comfort zone and thinks he is a definite starter? Maybe a reality check and drop him to the bench would do him no harm, and then either bring JJ in as a straight replacement or bring Jones into the middle with Taylor right and Lewi left. Thoughts folks? Problem is i would sooner have Stephens than either Taylor or Jones in midfield on current form !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeeeuuuubbbbs! Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Problem is i would sooner have Stephens than either Taylor or Jones in midfield on current form !!!!!!! Fair point...but maybe Jones would also be better if played centrally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 In my opinion Stephens has not been as effective in the last few games as he was late last season/early doors vs Tranmere and Notts County. I'm not slagging him off because I think he's a good player but I think maybe he has got into a comfort zone and thinks he is a definite starter? Maybe a reality check and drop him to the bench would do him no harm, and then either bring JJ in as a straight replacement or bring Jones into the middle with Taylor right and Lewi left. Thoughts folks? He's not been as effective but I disagree that he's become complacent - just a marked man. Our midfield is pressurised now from the off, our mistake is sitting off and not picking up the second balls. Since Charlton away the midfield has gone off the boil collectively. I would be inclined to shake it up and bring Jones inside so we can accommodate Lewi. Even from the brief highlights you can see Stephens and Furman are trying to dictate the tempo, the two moves early doors demonstrate this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesmitt Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 In my opinion Stephens has not been as effective in the last few games as he was late last season/early doors vs Tranmere and Notts County. I'm not slagging him off because I think he's a good player but I think maybe he has got into a comfort zone and thinks he is a definite starter? Maybe a reality check and drop him to the bench would do him no harm, and then either bring JJ in as a straight replacement or bring Jones into the middle with Taylor right and Lewi left. Thoughts folks? ive only been to a couple of games so far so would be going off report from other people but didnt he sign his new deal just after the notts county game? Maybe he was just playing his socks to get the new deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) He's not been as effective but I disagree that he's become complacent - just a marked man. Our midfield is pressurised now from the off, our mistake is sitting off and not picking up the second balls. Since Charlton away the midfield has gone off the boil collectively. I would be inclined to shake it up and bring Jones inside so we can accommodate Lewi. Even from the brief highlights you can see Stephens and Furman are trying to dictate the tempo, the two moves early doors demonstrate this.. Your ability to understand the workings of a midfield is better than that of most who've played the game and got themselves in to "pundit" land. Edited September 20, 2010 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 He's not been as effective but I disagree that he's become complacent - just a marked man. Our midfield is pressurised now from the off, our mistake is sitting off and not picking up the second balls. Since Charlton away the midfield has gone off the boil collectively. I would be inclined to shake it up and bring Jones inside so we can accommodate Lewi. Even from the brief highlights you can see Stephens and Furman are trying to dictate the tempo, the two moves early doors demonstrate this.. Jeez you can tell Lewi has done well to have Prozac waxing lyrical about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Jeez you can tell Lewi has done well to have Prozac waxing lyrical about him He's impressed me with his improved attitude, he was never going to be a prolific striker but lacked a real work-ethic to add to his undoubted quality. He has skill in abundance and finds space with ease. Unlike one or two of our attacking players he has a footballing brain and well done to PD for having the sense to use him so effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 He's impressed me with his improved attitude, he was never going to be a prolific striker but lacked a real work-ethic to add to his undoubted quality. He has skill in abundance and finds space with ease. Unlike one or two of our attacking players he has a footballing brain and well done to PD for having the sense to use him so effectively. Indeed, some of his runs yesterday were brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Anyway back to Dale Stephens. It's benn since this was set up for him http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/pa...62058228?ref=ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I reckon we offload him while we still can, dont let him fester in our team let him fly like a peacock! Same goes for Furman, both need to leave before they die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Problem is i would sooner have Stephens than either Taylor or Jones in midfield on current form !!!!!!! Jones has been one of our best players all season along with Lee & Furman. Stephens for me needs a rest, was blowing out of his arse after 10 minutes at Peterborough. He was one of the reasons we got over run that day as he went missing. Young player though, barely played any first team games, never mind for us. Always going to be inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyleArmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) The day he signed a new deal his form has dipped its a shame we will not sell him for couple of years to come. Edited September 20, 2010 by RoyleArmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_La_Vega Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 My sneak insider reckons that Stephens has dropped in form since we stopped playing Jarrett at centre-half. The inference being that his superior ability to play the ball out meant that DS and DF were picking the ball up further up the pitch and able to make the play. Factor in the issue that DS's biggest weakness (to my mind) is probably that he is a bit one-paced and you can see why getting dragged deeper and further from the business end of the pitch would be an issue for him. If you want to play good football you need full-backs who can play but also a centre-half who is comfortable on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 My sneak insider reckons that Stephens has dropped in form since we stopped playing Jarrett at centre-half. The inference being that his superior ability to play the ball out meant that DS and DF were picking the ball up further up the pitch and able to make the play. Factor in the issue that DS's biggest weakness (to my mind) is probably that he is a bit one-paced and you can see why getting dragged deeper and further from the business end of the pitch would be an issue for him. If you want to play good football you need full-backs who can play but also a centre-half who is comfortable on the ball. While I think Jarrett does help both Furman and Stephens, some of Dale's less inspiring performances have happened with JJ on the pitch. Regardless, Dale Stephens is possibly the most talented player we have. The sooner he returns to form, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 My sneak insider reckons that Stephens has dropped in form since we stopped playing Jarrett at centre-half. The inference being that his superior ability to play the ball out meant that DS and DF were picking the ball up further up the pitch and able to make the play. Factor in the issue that DS's biggest weakness (to my mind) is probably that he is a bit one-paced and you can see why getting dragged deeper and further from the business end of the pitch would be an issue for him. If you want to play good football you need full-backs who can play but also a centre-half who is comfortable on the ball. Perhaps Stephens would be better with Jarrett playing a holding midfielder, but that would probably mean leaving out Furman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I reckon we offload him while we still can, dont let him fester in our team let him fly like a peacock! Same goes for Furman, both need to leave before they die. In Beardy we trust. P.s where have you gone on Facebook ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie21 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Perhaps Stephens would be better with Jarrett playing a holding midfielder, but that would probably mean leaving out Furman. dont think we can afford to leave furman out.. he's our all action superman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 dont think we can afford to leave furman out.. he's our all action superman supfurman - See what I did there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardy Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 In Beardy we trust. P.s where have you gone on Facebook ? I am but a figment of your imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I am but a figment of your imagination. No ! I cant accept that, my brain would never come up with such sickness ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 While I think Jarrett does help both Furman and Stephens, some of Dale's less inspiring performances have happened with JJ on the pitch. Regardless, Dale Stephens is possibly the most talented player we have. The sooner he returns to form, the better. Dale's less inspring performances have been without Alessandra. Trannies and Notts he was outstanding, Bournemouth when Alessandra came on, Dale was alot better than he has been past few games. We also played our best football with alice on left and jj in cb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie21 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 just shows stephens cant always help the team tick.. he has been very poor in last few games, but lewi did bring some fight and energy to all players on the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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