oafcprozac Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Sheff Wed Tranmere Rochdale Huddersfield Capacity 60 x £120 inc v.a.t for the full package x 4 games = £28,800 + raffles, namecards, guess the attendance etc That's the four biggest games we have at home this year, and hospitality WOULD sell out for these games. And i'm sure with the right aggressive marketing campaign they'd sell hospitality for some of the other attractive home games. Southampton Charlton So what's happened to the insurance claim, and why's the club willing to write-off substantial income? Just does not make sense at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Is there an insurance claim for the incident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Is there an insurance claim for the incident? Supposedly there was 'some' insurance, but the policy wouldn't cover all the damage - So we're either under-insured or unwilling/unable to afford any sort of excess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Supposedly there was 'some' insurance, but the policy wouldn't cover all the damage - So we're either under-insured or unwilling/unable to afford any sort of excess? Supposedly? Do you know anything factual about the incident? I'm not being aggressive, I'm just wondering how much this is bar-talk and how much of this is 100% fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Supposedly? Do you know anything factual about the incident? I'm not being aggressive, I'm just wondering how much this is bar-talk and how much of this is 100% fact. The club stated itself it had 'some' insurance but it wouldn't cover the full £40k worth of damage. So if the insurance wouldn't cover the full cost that suggests under-insured. Were the cabins themselves the only thing insured and the fixtures and fitting weren't? Or like I say, is there a big fat excess? And are easily climbable gates even covered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Have the culprits been arrested yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Have the culprits been arrested yet ? Nope and by the looks of it they won't be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Just does not make sense at all... They have there eyes focused on Failsworth... Hopefully we will know soon if its a goer or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Nope and by the looks of it they won't be Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 It was clearly Chris Taylor and Kieran Lee, anyone who watched the footage knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Without any cast iron information - which we're never going to get - we don't know, so there's no point getting too upset about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Without any cast iron information - which we're never going to get - we don't know, so there's no point getting too upset about it. Kids talk among each other at school, I bet the culprits are well known. Maybe they are under the age of prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Sheff Wed Tranmere Rochdale Huddersfield Capacity 60 x £120 inc v.a.t for the full package x 4 games = £28,800 + raffles, namecards, guess the attendance etc That's the four biggest games we have at home this year, and hospitality WOULD sell out for these games. And i'm sure with the right aggressive marketing campaign they'd sell hospitality for some of the other attractive home games. Southampton Charlton So what's happened to the insurance claim, and why's the club willing to write-off substantial income? Just does not make sense at all... If you include VAT then you will need to reduce the £28,800 by 17.5% (inclusively) which equates to £24,510.63 and will be more after 04/01/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robboman Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 £40k of damage? to a box?! could build a small house for that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 £40k of damage? to a box?! could build a small house for that!!! Please don't give them any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EASTLEY Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 We don't own the box, Manchester cabins do, the main cost as I understand it is to lease a new box on a short term lease(<3 years)is prohibitively expensive before the fixtures and fittings are then installed. This is my take on the issue rather than gospel. However I do know for fact that on the busiest games and where the box is over sold (STs and hospitality combined)that some of the ST holders are moving to the exec seats in the mainstand allowing the generation of extra revenue. There is no pressure from the club to do this but it is a gesture from those ST holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 We don't own the box, Manchester cabins do, the main cost as I understand it is to lease a new box on a short term lease(<3 years)is prohibitively expensive before the fixtures and fittings are then installed. This is my take on the issue rather than gospel. However I do know for fact that on the busiest games and where the box is over sold (STs and hospitality combined)that some of the ST holders are moving to the exec seats in the mainstand allowing the generation of extra revenue. There is no pressure from the club to do this but it is a gesture from those ST holders. I sad that would be the case at the time of the fire, one of my jobs in very early in my previous career was site set-up and I've never known a cabin company yet that didn't prefer to lease cabins and as long-term as possible too. Far more lucrative when you can charge hire rates by the day, week, month or year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 If you include VAT then you will need to reduce the £28,800 by 17.5% (inclusively) which equates to £24,510.63 and will be more after 04/01/10. Fair enough, I'm no accountant but why turn down a MINIMUM of £25k of possible corporate hospitality? Add in the £7.5k of unsold player sponsorship, along with the marketing departments other failings and you've already earned above and beyond the player share target. Or to put another way, many are doing their bit by putting into player share to help the club. Why aren't the club helping themselves? The austere, can't be arsed, make do and mend attitude is killing the club - not the deserting fans. Sometimes you simply have to have the stomach for a fight. The hierachy at BP just seem to shrug and wash their hands. Thinking "it'll be reet once we move to Failsworth". Without a clean sweep throughout the business managment of the club, the club hasn't a prayer. I've really tried to bit my lip recently, the football side is slowly improving and there's hope. But the business side of the club continues to be a big joke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Fair enough, I'm no accountant but why turn down a MINIMUM of £25k of possible corporate hospitality? Add in the £7.5k of unsold player sponsorship, along with the marketing departments other failings and you've already earned above and beyond the player share target. Or to put another way, many are doing their bit by putting into player share to help the club. Why aren't the club helping themselves? The austere, can't be arsed, make do and mend attitude is killing the club - not the deserting fans. Sometimes you simply have to have the stomach for a fight. The hierachy at BP just seem to shrug and wash their hands. Thinking "it'll be reet once we move to Failsworth". Without a clean sweep throughout the business managment of the club, the club hasn't a prayer. I've really tried to bit my lip recently, the football side is slowly improving and there's hope. But the business side of the club continues to be a big joke... But Prozac, you have not included the costs for operating it for each of those games. £24 max. If you factor in the costs of operating such as Staffing, food costs, beverage costs, lighting electrical ocsts,loss when it is not full or even empty, Worse when it it is partly full, you still need to staff it. And re the player sponsorship. No doubt more could be done, just because it walways can, but the time for this is pre season, and after last season and the (at the time) uncertainty of PD, and means players sponsorship is not likely to draw in lots of people. You have stated the club has made do and mend, when in reality they have takena careful oook at the costs and calulated it. I grant you it is not appealing to look at and contributes to the poor look of the stadium, but that does not neccesarily warrant the toy chucking. Maybe looking it at from an alternative viewpoint will help. One the Directors have. Look ahead to Failsworth, shiny stadium , better crowds, paying for itself, no need to make do and mend. Perhaps the Dcirotors are visionaries and others are missing the foresight and cannot see ahead. Might be right, might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I can't be the only one trying to work out why we have been renting permanent fixtures and fittings for the past 18? years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Maybe they are under the age of prosecution. They were older than 10 from the footage Latics posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I can't be the only one trying to work out why we have been renting permanent fixtures and fittings for the past 18? years Probably because we have been on the verge of moving grounds or rebuilding the ground for that time so they have thought lets keep renting them until that happens. Theyll be gone in 3 years when the houses get built which will happen if we have a nice new ground in Failsworth to go to or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I don't know if their is anyone involved in insurance but how long would it take for the insurance claim like this to come through presuming we had some insurance for this and we have puta claim in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.