oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Can't agree. The state wastes enough of my money already. If I'm legally entitled to claim a bit back then I'll damn well take it. I'll spend it a lot more sensibly than any state run body in this country. I think it's pretty selfish of Governments to overtax, provide mediocre public services, run the country in to ridiculous amounts of debt due to their economic incompetence and then come back to the same people that they've overtaxed and say "more from you chaps please". So you are happy to take said benefit for yourself and then deny others claiming it in the future ? That was my point... I would of thought that was textbook selfish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) I think it's pretty selfish of Governments to overtax, provide mediocre public services, run the country in to ridiculous amounts of debt due to their economic incompetence and then come back to the same people that they've overtaxed and say "more from you chaps please". I agree with this... I just don't feel the same about the state of said services... I think the middle class are over taxed... but then so are the working class... Meaning the only source of extra money is the rich... and they are untouchable 9/10 times... Which means we are all doomed Edited October 5, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoafc Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) What's this I hear? Is it the frantic scrambling down from a soap-box? Edited October 5, 2010 by danoafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 What's this I hear? Is it the frantic scrambling down from a soap-box? ? Dan either join in the debate or bugger off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I work full time and do overtime to pay for my children, I am there for school concerts, coffee mornings, assemblies and every appointment my children have ever had which many of the other mums at school do not make, even though they don't have jobs to go to. I also do voluntary work which takes up a lot of my time. Yet I am selfish. To be fair Lisa, despite you doing all these things you are a cruel and nasty person, inflicting Latics on another person is a terrible, terrible thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 ? Dan either join in the debate or bugger off... I think he is quite entitled to join in on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 To be fair Lisa, despite you doing all these things you are a cruel and nasty person, inflicting Latics on another person is a terrible, terrible thing to do. ah well... it was a good debate while it lasted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 To be fair Lisa, despite you doing all these things you are a cruel and nasty person, inflicting Latics on another person is a terrible, terrible thing to do. Exactly, I am such a cow and a bad mother!!!!! They even get a Happy Meal sometimes - how bad is that?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Exactly, I am such a cow and a bad mother!!!!! They even get a Happy Meal sometimes - how bad is that?!!! I wasn't actually saying you ARE selfish... Just that a case can be made... I don't know or want to know enough about you... I just wan't you to think about it from a different prospective... Sorry if I wasn't making myself clear... Like I said... I wasn't actually calling you selfish... I just wanted to view it in a different way... But the childishness has began... I will leave you all to feel sorry for yourselves I don't want a ten page argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takemeanywhere Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I don't want a ten page argument Mellowing, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Like I said... I wasn't actually calling you selfish... I just wanted to view it in a different way... But the childishness has began... I will leave you all to feel sorry for yourselves I don't want a ten page argument I don't feel sorry for myself, I am far too busy for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Mellowing, are you? I only ever want a discussion... Never a fall out... Believe it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 I don't feel sorry for myself, I am far too busy for that Well stop playing the bad mother card then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Must.....have......last.......word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Must.....have......last.......word. Yea, got you all wrong haven't I... You are not childish Why do people have to wreck threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoafc Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) ? Dan either join in the debate or bugger off... Ok, I'll join the debate and give you my 'opinion'. My opinion is that you are so cocksure of yourself and your own opinion that you are happy to jump in with both feet, without letting the truths and circumstances of a situation catch up with your brain. You were happy enough to ask details of whether Lisa had kids, whether she claimed child benefits etc and whether she thought it was not "greedy to claim something she didn't need" earlier in the thread, yet claimed not to know, or to want to know anything about her when she gave you a few 'truths' of her own. I don't recall anywhere in the thread where anybody said that people should have benefits withdrawn, other than where it was suggested that people who wait for their benefits to be paid in to their accounts then go and smoke it/piss it up the wall, which is a purely idealogical idea (which I agree with entirely) but in practice could never be implemented. Edit - typo Edited October 5, 2010 by danoafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yea, got you all wrong haven't I... You are not childish Part of my charm baby, part of my charm. Why do people have to wreck threads? Hello pot, this is kettle, we're black!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Ok, I'll join the debate and give you my 'opinion'. My opinion is that you are so cocksure of yourself and your own opinion that you are happy to jump in with both feet, without letting the truths and circumstances of a situation catch up with your brain. You were happy enough to ask details of whether Lisa had kids, whether she claimed child benefits etc and whether she thought it was not "greedy to claim something she didn't need" earlier in the thread, yet claimed not to know, or to want to know anything about her when she gave you a few 'truths' of her own. I don't recall anywhere in the thread where anybody said that people should have benefits withdrawn, other than where it was suggested that people who wait for their benefits to be paid in to their accounts then go and smoke it/piss it up the wall, which is a purely idealogical idea (which I agree with entirely) but in practice could never be implemented. Edit - typo Shurrup Dan, you're wrecking his thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Ok, I'll join the debate and give you my 'opinion'. My opinion is that you are so cocksure of yourself and your own opinion that you are happy to jump in with both feet, without letting the truths and circumstances of a situation catch up with your brain. You were happy enough to ask details of whether Lisa had kids, whether she claimed child benefits etc and whether she thought it was not "greedy to claim something she didn't need" earlier in the thread, yet claimed not to know, or to want to know anything about her when she gave you a few 'truths' of her own. I don't recall anywhere in the thread where anybody said that people should have benefits withdrawn, other than where it was suggested that people who wait for their benefits to be paid in to their accounts then go and smoke it/piss it up the wall, which is a purely idealogical idea (which I agree with entirely) but in practice could never be implemented. Edit - typo Oh getting off your bloody high horse... I didn't mean to call her selfish etc.. as I said! Read back her comments... She was saying if you can't afford them then don't have them (kids)... My point was that you should recognise the helping hand her (your?) family got from all the benefits she thinks she didn't need... I was (and obviously failed) to try and not get into a situation were I would want Lisa life story. I never really thought she was selfish. I am just saying that there are a lot of people who are saying cut without thinking it through... She certainly came across as being ok with the cut. Sorry if in fact she isn't... She had plenty of time to say she was against the cut. Now lets all take a deep breath... Edited October 5, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Shurrup Dan, you're wrecking his thread. See what have you contributed besides your smart arse response... Clearly trying to wind him up further... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 ah Ill back out of it... Sorry Lisa if I offended you... TTFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Shurrup Dan, you're wrecking his thread. And you can stick your hair nose out. Hippy. I can remember when all this was fields round here, it was a beautiful thread....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Clearly trying to wind him up further... Oh, what little you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Now lets all take a deep breath... Yeah, it's a shame you couldn't have taken a deep breath instead of posting this incendary device... No response Lisa ? I can see your lurking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yeah, it's a shame you couldn't have taken a deep breath instead of posting this incendary device... Yeah fair point... I apologise... I didn't mean it as arrogantly as it sounded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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