lancy lad Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Whats happening with it? I was told by someone who sits near me last Saturday that the council are only giving us £££ for the stand if somebody matches their contribution (up to a maximum £5.7m). So say for instance someone stumps up £3m - the council will match it. I reckon he is full of sheeeeite but obviously there is still no sign of building??? Anyone know anything??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 The council grant is £800k. That won't be made unless the rest of the funding is found. The Football Foundation should be good for £750k (used to be called the Footaball Trust). If we just want to put up a boring 3,000 seater thing, this may not be far short of what's needed, but if you want a bigger capacity with a range of hospitality, offices, changing rooms etc you will need nearer the £5m-£6m figures being quoted. I suspect we'll hear little until that investment is found, forms are signed and new owners / part owners are in situ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Drove over barton bridge a few times over the past few weeks and Salford reds new main stand looks decent! Anyone know what facilities its gonna have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Drove over barton bridge a few times over the past few weeks and Salford Reds new main stand looks decent! Anyone know what facilities its gonna have? You mean the £26M Salford Reds stadium of which about £10M is going on the facilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I thought the 'grant' was for community projects, and the money with the sale of the lancaster club went to Blitz with about 2 million left over to go towards the stand, needing another 4 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 some images of salford stadium and looks quite similar to what we need imo link moreeven more google image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonylatik Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 It's nothing like the last two links, that must be first choice but reality took overb, still looks good though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 It's nothing like the last two links, that must be first choice but reality took overb, still looks good though . Even in the above links, looks extremely crappy for 26 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Funnily enough I drove right past both Darlingtons and Doncasters new stadiums last week and I don't know about soulless bowls? They both look great from the outside. And 100% better than boundary park! Oh and blackpools, grimsbys, newcastles, bradfords, Leeds, and macclesfields! I've clocked up some miles this past week!!! Edited October 2, 2011 by BlueJazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Funnily enough I drove right past both Darlingtons and Doncasters new stadiums last week and I don't know about soulless bowls? They both look great from the outside. And 100% better than boundary park! Oh and blackpools, grimsbys, newcastles, bradfords, Leeds, and macclesfields! I've clocked up some miles this past week!!! I think your missing some zero's Jazzer Darlingtons is a white elephant. 25,000 capacity restricted to 10,000 because of poor access. They can apply for 'exceptions' for certain events. Edited October 2, 2011 by Lookers_Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 You mean access into the ground or into the area? Reminded me of the teletubbies land. Weird green mounds outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Salfords new stadium Edited October 2, 2011 by Senor_Coconut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I thought the 'grant' was for community projects, and the money with the sale of the lancaster club went to Blitz with about 2 million left over to go towards the stand, needing another 4 million. That's correct. Also the £5.7m is only an estimate of the value of the land at The Lancaster Club. When it has been valued properly by independent valuers, the sum will then be paid to the owners of the land (Blitz and Gazal). Not Latics. Mr Corney stated that in an interview I heard. He also stated that the new stand would cost around £7m which would be found somehow from himself and other investors. I have suggested to the club that they look into installing solar panels on the roof of each new stand as it is built. This may even provide free electricity to the club in the future, which would be a huge saving. I have not received a reply from my email to Mr. Corney so I'm not sure if it will be taken on board. Anyone got any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shefflatic Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 That's correct. Also the £5.7m is only an estimate of the value of the land at The Lancaster Club. When it has been valued properly by independent valuers, the sum will then be paid to the owners of the land (Blitz and Gazal). Not Latics. Mr Corney stated that in an interview I heard. He also stated that the new stand would cost around £7m which would be found somehow from himself and other investors. I have suggested to the club that they look into installing solar panels on the roof of each new stand as it is built. This may even provide free electricity to the club in the future, which would be a huge saving. I have not received a reply from my email to Mr. Corney so I'm not sure if it will be taken on board. Anyone got any thoughts on this? re solar panels, totally agree - email Hard he always responds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Even in the above links, looks extremely crappy for 26 million. It's not crappy, and it's not getting any cheaper to build. Saints new stadium was about the same cost; prime location - a 50-acre mixed-use scheme with the Stadium and retail/leisure outlets, and offering commercial property and retail space to let. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 From those aerial shots, i think salfords new stadium looks proper old fashioned. Much prefer the look of the soulless bowls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 In terms of hospitality suites i've been to Doncaster and Bristol Rovers. Both had a similar concept where your group is given an individual room for the hospitality where you eat and drink. They have sky tv on, fridges stacked up, waiter service, etc. You watch the match itself in the stand which you get to via your own box (although the seating is a bit like where our directors sit). I thought this was a good idea. Kept you involved with the matchday experience but private enough for the hospitality side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Thats like what i got at my only ever rugby game at, "twickers." hospitality in the box, out to a seat then a drink ready for you at half time. Much better than sitting inside during the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Thats like what i got at my only ever rugby game at, "twickers." hospitality in the box, out to a seat then a drink ready for you at half time. Much better than sitting inside during the match. My one and only visit to Chelsea was the same too. Good quality food and decor inside, but straight out onto the stand for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 That's correct. Also the £5.7m is only an estimate of the value of the land at The Lancaster Club. When it has been valued properly by independent valuers, the sum will then be paid to the owners of the land (Blitz and Gazal). Not Latics. Mr Corney stated that in an interview I heard. He also stated that the new stand would cost around £7m which would be found somehow from himself and other investors. I have suggested to the club that they look into installing solar panels on the roof of each new stand as it is built. This may even provide free electricity to the club in the future, which would be a huge saving. I have not received a reply from my email to Mr. Corney so I'm not sure if it will be taken on board. Anyone got any thoughts on this? Always a good idea, but given where we are surely windmills/turbines would generate enough power for the entire town!!! Are they not cost effective? Aren't grants available for this type of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The pics that Senor_Coconut posted of Salfords new stadium isn't a million miles away from what I imagine a redeveloped Boundary Park to look like, except I think the main stand will be a tad smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The viaiabilty of solar / wind power being incorporated into any new development should definitely be looked into - there are a number of grants for construction and also you can claim extra cash back of the government in terms of ROCs (renewable obligation certificates) if they meet the criteria. The windpower stuff could help give the stadium a unique point that it is famous for as well. Depending on the size (bigger presents more issues for planing I'd imagine) but it could also generate enough to export if the stadium is empty and then benefit from the FIT (feed in tarriff) scheme as well. If we do eventually build a new stand (and I'm afraid I'm in the 'believe it when I see it' camp) I hope it looks to embrace the idea from Failsworth of imcorporating a red mill brick facade - thought that would look great and also I suggested you could then use white bricks to but the name Boundary Park onto it ala the way mills have their names on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The viaiabilty of solar / wind power being incorporated into any new development should definitely be looked into - there are a number of grants for construction and also you can claim extra cash back of the government in terms of ROCs (renewable obligation certificates) if they meet the criteria. The windpower stuff could help give the stadium a unique point that it is famous for as well. Depending on the size (bigger presents more issues for planing I'd imagine) but it could also generate enough to export if the stadium is empty and then benefit from the FIT (feed in tarriff) scheme as well. If we do eventually build a new stand (and I'm afraid I'm in the 'believe it when I see it' camp) I hope it looks to embrace the idea from Failsworth of imcorporating a red mill brick facade - thought that would look great and also I suggested you could then use white bricks to but the name Boundary Park onto it ala the way mills have their names on. I am only putting the bits and pieces together that we do know, but from what I can gather, I am guessing the plan is to first and foremost, get a new stand built with revenue generating facilities. Once this is done, we may be able to secure the loans needed against projected future income. I will also presume the stadium model will be similar to chesterfields/salfords/fleetwood etc. Build one all singing all dancing stand with all the revenue generating facilities in, and three basic stands. I think if Latics are going to make this redevelopment work then at least two stands will need facilities of some kind, presumably the broadway stand and the chaddy. I think the club would be stupid if they didn't at least look at the possibility of this. Although I don't knwo the ins and outs of it, it seems there is alot more to gain than there is to lose. Although like scapegoat I am in the 'believe it when I see it' camp re the new stand, I would like to see the club make a few brave decisions that may piss off some fans, but what I think would be good for the club. One of which is as soon as the the new stand is built, I would like to see the current main stand demolished, possibly even the chaddy. If we have to erect a temporary stand like the East stand at Blackpool FC then fair enough, but if the new stand is built, I think we would then be in a position to cut our losses on the other two stands, which are probably costing the club a fortune to maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Morecambe's new ground is seats on one side and standing on the other three, the ground has been designed so if they every get into the Championship they could simply bolt seats into the standing areas. I would love it if we could do the same with at least one stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Morecambe's new ground is seats on one side and standing on the other three, the ground has been designed so if they every get into the Championship they could simply bolt seats into the standing areas. I would love it if we could do the same with at least one stand. I'm sure that Alan Hardy stated FA rules state that you can't convert a seated stand back into terraces and technically this would apply to the Broadway Stand, but I may be wrong As for solar panels, surely fitting wind farms to the top of the floodlights may be a better option. Or would the "keep Oldham in the dark ages society" not allow it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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