pinevillawill Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) WANTED! At least one central midfielder ASAP. No creativity, negative sideways and backwards football, total lack of closing down. Adeyemi just isn't good enough in the centre of the park. His unnatractive style of midfield play reminds me of a certain John/Jon Worthington, a player nobody was sad to see leave at the end of the season. I actually thought Adeyemi was decent at right back in the very few games I saw him play there. As for Winchester; yes, he was at fault for the play that led to their goal but he's a young lad playing out of position. He's been asked to do a job he shouldn't really be expected to do. I saw Mellor have a very decent game in the centre of the park in pre-season. Therefore, it seems a bit strange to give the role to Winchester who seems a lot more comfortable in a full back position. I also remember seeing a very lively Filipe Morais tear Huddersfield apart playing at CM against Huddersfield at home last season. Furman back, emergency loan, or a rejig as soon as possible please Mr Dickov. Rant over. Edited February 28, 2012 by excharnwoodlatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 What position should winchester be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Where's the money for it going to come from? The town isn't putting it in, the team have done their bit getting cup revenue and the owners are pumping in money that isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 What position should winchester be? He is playing in his strongest position. He had 3 men on him when he received ball. Still should of dealt with it though. We should flood the midfield in Saturday, but may prove tricky without any players. Col u did it well tonight, they were very narrow. There centre mid were very experienced, Roland's and izzet probably have 800 league games between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinevillawill Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Where's the money for it going to come from? The town isn't putting it in, the team have done their bit getting cup revenue and the owners are pumping in money that isn't there. Money for what?! If you're referring to a loan signing, surely we've freed up a bit of space following the departures of Clarke, Scapuzzi and Mancini? I've also mentioned a couple of rejig options which will cost a grand total of £0.00 Sureley no harm in trying something new? I'm getting sick of seeing two lines of defence every week. Edited February 28, 2012 by excharnwoodlatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 He is playing in his strongest position. He had 3 men on him when he received ball. Still should of dealt with it though. We should flood the midfield in Saturday, but may prove tricky without any players. Col u did it well tonight, they were very narrow. There centre mid were very experienced, Roland's and izzet probably have 800 league games between them. No he didn't he had 3 men on him by the time he sorted himself out, he kept wanting one touch too many tonight (and on Saturday- which is probably why Dickov preferred to play an out of position Taylor in CM initially) and in that occasion he should have given the pass to Tarky to then pass to Cisak, instead he dallied on it for an eternity and had his pocket pinched. Gillespie then used his nouse and left his foot behind for Winchester to catch to win the free-kick, decent delivery with some apparent slack marking and 1-1 Bob's your Mother's brother. At the moment having a both of our first choice CM out and having some capable deputies playing elsewhere is leaving us exposed. Adeyemi has looked decent playing CM with either Furman or Wes (he's better with Furman), without them he isn't anywhere near as good. Diamond is fit but because he doesn't want to change from 4411 Dickov is risking us getting hammered, fortunately for us Colchester took a half to warm up after being delayed, otherwise today could have been a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Sorry, inexperience and playing out of position isn't an excuse for that from Winchester. He shouldn't have dwelt anyway but he had countless opportunities to kick it into the car park before he lost possession. If in doubt, kick it out. Simples. We were poor and couldn't have moaned if we'd been beaten. Comfortably. Still, disappointing given we were ten minutes from (an albeit undeserved) victory. Marsh-Brown played well though he should have either scored or laid off for the chance before his goal. Shouldn't have come off. What frustrates me most was the lack of urgency to get forward. Plenty of times in the second half, at 1-0 and 1-1, Lee or another defender had the ball with chance for a break and just stopped and waited for others to catch up. Bloody get at 'em! We looked :censored: scared whenever they ran at us. When we got at them down the flanks we looked much much better. One thing worthy of note though too - some of the passing in the first half was bloody outstanding from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Sorry, inexperience and playing out of position isn't an excuse for that from Winchester. He shouldn't have dwelt anyway but he had countless opportunities to kick it into the car park before he lost possession. If in doubt, kick it out. Simples. We were poor and couldn't have moaned if we'd been beaten. Comfortably. Still, disappointing given we were ten minutes from (an albeit undeserved) victory. Marsh-Brown played well though he should have either scored or laid off for the chance before his goal. Shouldn't have come off. What frustrates me most was the lack of urgency to get forward. Plenty of times in the second half, at 1-0 and 1-1, Lee or another defender had the ball with chance for a break and just stopped and waited for others to catch up. Bloody get at 'em! We looked :censored: scared whenever they ran at us. When we got at them down the flanks we looked much much better. One thing worthy of note though too - some of the passing in the first half was bloody outstanding from us. Exactly it was a pity that two of memorable passes came from our LB and our central-defender. (OK Mellor's pass was to an offside KMB but that wasn't Mellor's fault) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Sorry, inexperience and playing out of position isn't an excuse for that from Winchester. He shouldn't have dwelt anyway but he had countless opportunities to kick it into the car park before he lost possession. If in doubt, kick it out. Simples. We were poor and couldn't have moaned if we'd been beaten. Comfortably. Still, disappointing given we were ten minutes from (an albeit undeserved) victory. Marsh-Brown played well though he should have either scored or laid off for the chance before his goal. Shouldn't have come off. What frustrates me most was the lack of urgency to get forward. Plenty of times in the second half, at 1-0 and 1-1, Lee or another defender had the ball with chance for a break and just stopped and waited for others to catch up. Bloody get at 'em! We looked :censored: scared whenever they ran at us. When we got at them down the flanks we looked much much better. One thing worthy of note though too - some of the passing in the first half was bloody outstanding from us. Said the same myself.....far too pedestrian, with it seemingly taking an age to get forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Exactly it was a pity that two of memorable passes came from our LB and our central-defender. (OK Mellor's pass was to an offside KMB but that wasn't Mellor's fault) KMB was about 5 yards ONSIDE that particular pass....the main stand lino had a 100% record last night, every decision he made.....WRONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Said the same myself.....far too pedestrian, with it seemingly taking an age to get forward. Simpson's part of the problem here, as good as he is he feels like he HAS to be involved in everything by dropping deeper, coupled with Kuqi playing so deep we have to hold onto to it as there's no bugger in the final third. If Kuqi and Simpson trusted their mates more and got on their bikes into the box i'm convinced we'd score more goals, and certainly create more chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 WANTED! At least one central midfielder ASAP. No creativity, negative sideways and backwards football, total lack of closing down. Adeyemi just isn't good enough in the centre of the park. His unnatractive style of midfield play reminds me of a certain John/Jon Worthington, a player nobody was sad to see leave at the end of the season. I actually thought Adeyemi was decent at right back in the very few games I saw him play there. As for Winchester; yes, he was at fault for the play that led to their goal but he's a young lad playing out of position. He's been asked to do a job he shouldn't really be expected to do. I saw Mellor have a very decent game in the centre of the park in pre-season. Therefore, it seems a bit strange to give the role to Winchester who seems a lot more comfortable in a full back position. I also remember seeing a very lively Filipe Morais tear Huddersfield apart playing at CM against Huddersfield at home last season. Furman back, emergency loan, or a rejig as soon as possible please Mr Dickov. Rant over. Agree and disagree. Adeyemi is doing a very good job as the holding player. But we need another more creative player and have done all season, someone like koumas from the start. However, the good people of the parish don't want to support their local team so we can't afford anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Simpson's part of the problem here, as good as he is he feels like he HAS to be involved in everything by dropping deeper, coupled with Kuqi playing so deep we have to hold onto to it as there's no bugger in the final third. If Kuqi and Simpson trusted their mates more and got on their bikes into the box i'm convinced we'd score more goals, and certainly create more chances. Prozac is correct in his analysis, it stands to reason with 2 deep lying forwards, 2 holding midfielders and 2 wide men most of the play is going to outside the penalty area. This type of football will not encourage fans to BP and if it continues next season I for one won't there to witness these chess board tactics tactics. One more thing, PD should stop praising every opposing team so much, he's putting fear into the players heads before they step on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Prozac is correct in his analysis, it stands to reason with 2 deep lying forwards, 2 holding midfielders and 2 wide men most of the play is going to outside the penalty area. This type of football will not encourage fans to BP and if it continues next season I for one won't there to witness these chess board tactics tactics. One more thing, PD should stop praising every opposing team so much, he's putting fear into the players heads before they step on the pitch. It's the same problem with Simmo, we had with Kilkenny in both his spells, initially he was a revelation then the 'star' player gets found out. With said 'star' player only a true threat from set-pieces.Teams double up on him and strangle our main creative outlet. Time for PD to give us a Plan B, if Smith was that Plan B alongside Kuqi, then that was poor Paul, time for Reid or Parker to be given a chance alongside either Kuqi or Smith. No one is indispensable in this squad but for some reason Dickov thinks two or three are no matter how ineffective either the player(s) or the tactics are. I know we've not got a pot to piss in and kids like CW will make mistakes, it's part of the learning curve but at the moment offensively our manager is not making the best of his options. Just like he didn't for the last THIRD of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Simpson's part of the problem here, as good as he is he feels like he HAS to be involved in everything by dropping deeper, coupled with Kuqi playing so deep we have to hold onto to it as there's no bugger in the final third. If Kuqi and Simpson trusted their mates more and got on their bikes into the box i'm convinced we'd score more goals, and certainly create more chances. Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Simpson's part of the problem here, as good as he is he feels like he HAS to be involved in everything by dropping deeper, coupled with Kuqi playing so deep we have to hold onto to it as there's no bugger in the final third. If Kuqi and Simpson trusted their mates more and got on their bikes into the box i'm convinced we'd score more goals, and certainly create more chances. Symptomatic of a poor midfield though. If the midfielders are struggling, it's natural for the forwards to drop back to try and break up the opposition's play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 4-4-1-1 is the current coaching manual fad, PD should throw the book into the nearest canal and get back to playing proper strikers who are a threat in the penalty area, not deep lying forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 4-4-1-1 is the current coaching manual fad, PD should throw the book into the nearest canal and get back to playing proper strikers who are a threat in the penalty area, not deep lying forwards. I would try something different on Saturday the defense: Cisak, Lee, MVoto, Tarkowski, Mellor the midfield four: Morais, Adeyemi, Simpson, Taylor the front two: Kuqi & Reid (I'll get me coat...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) surely we've freed up a bit of space following the departures of Clarke, Scapuzzi and Mancini? Edited February 29, 2012 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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