BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) A left full back and a goal poacher have been top priorities yet PD signs 2 more midfielders...I despair. Edited March 6, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedOwl Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 A left full back and a goal poacher have been top priorities yet PD signs 2 more midfielders...I despair. experienced cb who isn't injury prone please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 A left full back and a goal poacher have been top priorities yet PD signs 2 more midfielders...I despair. After tonight we are clearly crying out for experience and organisation in our defence. I hope Diamond's fit sooner rather than later as we simply cannot carry on conceding the crap goals we are, it started against Chesterfield in the JPT and is pretty much every game now…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Whilst i agree, is there really any point now? I dont think we'll go down and we certainly wont get near the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 To be fair, with Furman and Wes out for what looks like most of the remainder, reinforcements in midfield and just as vital if not more so. And tonight we played some stunning stuff before people lost their heads in the last twenty minutes again. We were awful again defending set pieces tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 To be fair, with Furman and Wes out for what looks like most of the remainder, reinforcements in midfield and just as vital if not more so. And tonight we played some stunning stuff before people lost their heads in the last twenty minutes again. We were awful again defending set pieces tonight. Absolutely. After the Colchester game it was clear we needed to bring a midfielder in. Now that he has done, people are complaining that he did, amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Absolutely. After the Colchester game it was clear we needed to bring a midfielder in. Now that he has done, people are complaining that he did, amazing. The midfielders brought in for Wesolowski and Furmam are not like for like, they are not tenacious ball winners, theirin lies your problem. A genuine fox in the box goalpoacher tonight would have put the game beyond doubt and the left full back position is targeted by every team that comes to BP. That's why I say they are the priorities. Edited March 6, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Puts tongue in cheek. If the two midfielders had been from Droylsden I don't think BP would have been so quick to publicly complain. Being a bit more serious. Adeyemi's loan finishes after Saturday, Winchester isn't quite ready, Mellor is having to play LB, Taylor and Morais are needed elsewhere (doubly so now KMB is suspended for 3 games+), Furman is not fully fit and Wes might be fit come the last game of the season, of course we needed some central midfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Been told Furman should be back in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Puts tongue in cheek. If the two midfielders had been from Droylsden I don't think BP would have been so quick to publicly complain. Being a bit more serious. Adeyemi's loan finishes after Saturday, Winchester isn't quite ready, Mellor is having to play LB, Taylor and Morais are needed elsewhere (doubly so now KMB is suspended for 3 games+), Furman is not fully fit and Wes might be fit come the last game of the season, of course we needed some central midfielders. Isn't it the managers job to have adequate like for like cover in the event of injuries ? IMO none of the umpteen midfielders brought in can win the ball like Wesolowki or Furman, that's why home form is so poor. BTW did you know Scunthorpe's outstanding number 16 spent many years in non league at Prescot Cables and Southport ?... it just shows the talent is out there if given the chance. Edited March 6, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Isn't it the managers job to have adequate like for like cover in the event of injuries ? IMO the none of the umpteen midfielders brought in can win the ball like Wesolowki or Furman, that's why home form is so poor. Who should he have brought in then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Who should he have brought in then? Like for like ball winners, Brown and Adeyemi (both loanees) certainly aren't. Edited March 6, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Isn't it the managers job to have adequate like for like cover in the event of injuries ? IMO none of the umpteen midfielders brought in can win the ball like Wesolowki or Furman, that's why home form is so poor. BTW did you know Scunthorpe's outstanding number 16 spent many years in non league at Prescot Cables and Southport ?... it just shows the talent is out there if given the chance. Their 16 (duffy) was their best player by a mile, thought parkin did a job for them too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 But surely the problem is an obvious one? To have a squad with quality "like for like" replacements all over the show costs mega-bucks; money we just dont have As a comparison, i would wager that if any side bar Charlton and Hudds, and at a stretch the 2 Sheffield sides were to lose players as big as Wes, Furman, Simpson & Diamond, they would struggle just as much as we have. They are our quality, our experience and our obvious better players, without them we miss them and look a poorer side for it - just as any side would. I dont know where the magic pot of gold is coming from for a striker & left back.......we must have exhausted the penny jar in bringing in the needed Brown & Changama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Their 16 (duffy) was their best player by a mile, thought parkin did a job for them too! Agreed.....that's what Matt Smith should be like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) But surely the problem is an obvious one? To have a squad with quality "like for like" replacements all over the show costs mega-bucks; money we just dont have As a comparison, i would wager that if any side bar Charlton and Hudds, and at a stretch the 2 Sheffield sides were to lose players as big as Wes, Furman, Simpson & Diamond, they would struggle just as much as we have. They are our quality, our experience and our obvious better players, without them we miss them and look a poorer side for it - just as any side would. I dont know where the magic pot of gold is coming from for a striker & left back.......we must have exhausted the penny jar in bringing in the needed Brown & Changama You don't need a pot of gold Sly, good cheap players are out there. The midfield replacements tonight were both from Premiership clubs yet are not suited to the roles Wesolowski and Furman play. Edited March 6, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I agree with you on that point, ive been vocal on here on my underwhelmed opinion of MIA Tom Adeyemi, and i wasnt too impressed with Reece Brown either tonight. But, it does take funds to add like for like, even a free transfer capture will involve a potential sign on fee, wages, apperance fees & bonus payments, insurance & registration fees......it all stacks up & we arent blessed with money to burn We needed bodies in the central midfield & we've added 2; if im honest; thats 2 more than i was expecting us to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I agree with you on that point, ive been vocal on here on my underwhelmed opinion of MIA Tom Adeyemi, and i wasnt too impressed with Reece Brown either tonight. But, it does take funds to add like for like, even a free transfer capture will involve a potential sign on fee, wages, apperance fees & bonus payments, insurance & registration fees......it all stacks up & we arent blessed with money to burn We needed bodies in the central midfield & we've added 2; if im honest; thats 2 more than i was expecting us to make Fair enough, but I'd rather have had a decent experienced left back and a goal poacher than 2 more tip tap midfielders. Edited March 6, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thought the two lads in midfield did well tonight,my criticism would be why didn't we make a couple of changes after an hour when Brown and Marsh- Brown began to tire?New lad on the bench and Reid could have come on and freshened us up for the last half hour.Also if Mellor's best position is in midfield than would he not be worth a chance in there thus freeing up the room for a new full back?Speaking of which thought we should have tried to keep Sheehan here a couple of seasons back,he looked decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Isn't it the managers job to have adequate like for like cover in the event of injuries ? IMO none of the umpteen midfielders brought in can win the ball like Wesolowki or Furman, that's why home form is so poor. BTW did you know Scunthorpe's outstanding number 16 spent many years in non league at Prescot Cables and Southport ?... it just shows the talent is out there if given the chance. We have a lot of injuries and a small squad because we're not a very wealthy club, not that hard to understand is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Think a fair few of us agree that Reid coming on was the right sub to make........but not for Taylor Reid for Marsh-Brown & Reece Brown off with Changama on would have been my changes at the 60 / 65 min marker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Not much to add to the compliments for the team above so at the risk of sounding negative - if I was making the original post it would be full of plenty of praise for the way we went about the game for the first 65 minutes or so today, pretty much until Morais had a pop at KMB who went into a bit of a sulk. Shame as he'd been bloody brilliant until then. So here we go. I'm not usually one to pick out faults but I wasn't impressed (albeit at first showing) with Brown. He went missing (in contrast with the often missing Adeyemi, who was excellent and has done himself plenty of favours if he wants to stay for the season now) and we were too easily overrun in midfield. As good as we were, I thought Scunny were pretty good too. They got at us through the middle and Brown was nowhere to be seen. They definitely singled out Mellor at left back (though I feel we did the same to them and looked a real force down the right). Sensible move, because he looked like a fish out of water. There were a few times in the first half when the ball was pinged out to the right and he was somewhere in the middle of the park looking bemused the winger was charging with the ball again. If you're a left back, watch the right winger and don't give him a third of the pitch to play in before you look like getting a tackle in! As for defending set pieces, well their first was the same as last week's and the same as many in the last couple of season. We've got a former top flight CB as assistant manager, bloody sort it! Like I said, don't want to appear too critical. There was plenty to cheer tonight and had Shef's effort gone in first half I think they would have crumbled. Both teams decent mid-table outfits and am sure will end up there or thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Fair enough, but I'd rather have had a decent experienced left back and a goal poacher than 2 more tip tap midfielders. I doubt the Cormoros lad is earning much so probably doesn't get close to counting as a full wage. So it's probably a choice for Dickov of goalscorer, midfielder or left back. We need all three. The money's there for one. I think he plugged the right gap. If Corney is serious about mounting a challenge for the play-offs at some point (which I don't think he is) then we absolutely need a decent left back, Paul Black in the squad but not first choice, a second and maybe third goalscorer and a budget that allows three subs a game. Edited March 7, 2012 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I doubt the Cormoros lad is earning much so probably doesn't get close to counting as a full wage. So it's probably a choice for Dickov of goalscorer, midfielder or left back. We need all three. The money's there for one. I think he plugged the right gap. If Corney is serious about mounting a challenge for the play-offs at some point (which I don't think he is) then we absolutely need a decent left back, Paul Black in the squad but not first choice, a second and maybe third goalscorer and a budget that allows three subs a game. I didnt get to the game last night, seems like a typical week as a latics fan. I have often wondered what Gerry does, he was a half decent centre half in his day but the back 4 are average at best. Money is tight but we are crying out for an older head around the club, my dad said Jimmy Sirrel would have been great for us,a real defensive organiser. Pity is that he sadly passed away in 2008... Randomn post I know, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 I didnt get to the game last night, seems like a typical week as a latics fan. I have often wondered what Gerry does, he was a half decent centre half in his day but the back 4 are average at best. Money is tight but we are crying out for an older head around the club, my dad said Jimmy Sirrel would have been great for us,a real defensive organiser. Pity is that he sadly passed away in 2008... Randomn post I know, I knew Jimmy well, a great guy, he didn't look for too much in a player at the lower levels "Is he big, can he climb, is he quick, can he play ?"(3 out of 4 would usually suffice) was his basic philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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