HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 i love cliff byrne just as much as any iron fan... but those were the days i would of wanted him as our main CB all season, those days unfortunately have gone - he has not got enough pace to cut it as a league one 1st team defender, the games too quick for defender like cliff nowadays i unless he was a bit younger! and as much as i like cliff, given the choice between him or tarky id choose tarky all day long I think we'll finish a lot higher with Byrne putting in another 40 appearances at RB/CB than we will if he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I hope you're not discounting his improved performances in pre-season and the first 5 games of this season, in which he's clearly bigger, stronger and much-benefiting from a new coaching set-up, and has been streaks ahead of almost anyone else in our team, despite still only being 20 and playing in a position in which, arguably, experience is most important. Because that would of course be silly. Regardless of the physical side he's being allowed to play his natural game again - that's what's made the difference. Edited August 30, 2013 by HarryBosch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Well pre season form isn't worth a bag of conkers so of course should be discounted. And whisper it quietly but this defence in which your man is showing this much improved form is still to keep a clean sheet... I thought it was largely accepted before a ball had been kicked that we wouldn't be seeing many clean sheets this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I thought it was largely accepted before a ball had been kicked that we wouldn't be seeing many clean sheets this season? We won't be winning many games then Hazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Whisper it even more quietly, but it only conceded 1 against a Derby team that just put 5 past Brentford, and 2 against a Peterborough team that just put 6 past Reading and has scored 23 this season already. I tend to ignore form and results in cup ties Fitzy, all about what happens in ze league for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We won't be winning many games then Hazza. From Wiki; Peterborough finally finished 4th in 2010-11 Football League One with one of the worse defensive records in the third tier, conceding over 70 goals, but scoring 106; the most for anybody in the Football League that season. Peterborough beat Milton Keynes Dons in the playoff semi-finals. They defeated Huddersfield Town in the Final with a 3–0 victory, and gained promotion back to the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not sure our attacking options are quite on a par with what they had to be honest BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not sure our attacking options are quite on a par with what they had to be honest BP. We live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Dowds Green Shirt Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I'm only bothered about clean sheets (the football kind ) if either we don't score or only score once Edited August 30, 2013 by Harry Dowds Green Shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm only bothered about clean sheets (the football kind ) if either we don't score or only score once As an ex goalie you would be only bothered about clean sheets Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Sorry been to every game ever have we? From the 2 games Ive also seen this season, Tarky looked pretty solid, except he did get a few sticky moments against Derby against Connor Sammon (whos crap but was made to look unbelievable that night). I still have that feeling that he is still learning and will make a number of colossal errors if he comes up against a decent strike force ala COG last season. Grounds I dont feel that with, and neither Cliff Byrne who I feel are both pretty solid albeit not as glamorous as a ball playing CB that Tarky is being touted as. Id be suprised if he goes to Huddersfield this early on in his career and gets chucked straight in, I would imagine it will take him a couple of years to bed himself in properly and cut out the mistakes before he rises a level. Every player on earth makes mistakes. Tarky I would say this season so far has made none I can think of from the top of my head (happy for someone to point one out if he has) and he's been up against some very very good strikers. It feels like you don't want him to be a success or at the least simply can't admit that you are wrong. You only have to look at the fact he already has 2 or 3 MOM awards. The lad has been a breath of fresh air for me so far this season. Absolute machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1234 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think we'll finish a lot higher with Byrne putting in another 40 appearances at RB/CB than we will if he doesn't.Remember last season Byrne played in that great run of games of one point out of twenty seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Remember last season Byrne played in that great run of games of one point out of twenty seven. So did a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Remember last season Byrne played in that great run of games of one point out of twenty seven. The defence wasn't the problem during that run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1234 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The defence wasn't the problem during that run.So what was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 So what was the problem. We couldn't score for toffee! How bad is your memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1234 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 We couldn't score for toffee! How bad is your memory?So your saying there was no problem with the defence even though it was one of the worse runs for years. So Tarkowski could have played in that run and you would have been happy with his performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 So your saying there was no problem with the defence even though it was one of the worse runs for years. So Tarkowski could have played in that run and you would have been happy with his performance? He did, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1234 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 He did, didn't he?Not 100% but I don't think any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Someone on the Oldham facebook page status has said that this is Tarky's last game. Apparently, he's off to 'Udders and being loaned back to us for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Someone on the Oldham facebook page status has said that this is Tarky's last game. Apparently, he's off to 'Udders and being loaned back to us for the rest of the season. Heard this from a certain Oldham journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 2 against a Peterborough team that just put 6 past Reading and has scored 23 this season already. And is currently losing 2 frigging nil at home and spoiling my betting slip!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 As are Oldham, Everton, west ham and Southampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Hi again OneSize, I'm still not convinced by him, not by a long shot. He has certainly improved, but his continuation to let the ball bounce (along with Grounds) would cost us against better quality than today. He's still painfully slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Hi again OneSize, I'm still not convinced by him, not by a long shot. He has certainly improved, but his continuation to let the ball bounce (along with Grounds) would cost us against better quality than today. He's still painfully slow... He wasn't as good today as he has been the last couple of games, but bear in mind he's still only 20. Although there's plenty to work on, I still thought he was perfectly competent. Sounds as if he's off to Huddersfield anyway, so they must see something in him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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