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HarryBosch

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The full title is the Conservative and Unionist party. Cameron is the first PM since one of the Pitts to lose a vote on war and peace. Not great for him if he also loses the union. Plus the boundaries are redrawn by convention so that the number of seats resembles share of the vote. It's such a mess that all bets are off if Scotland goes.

 

No doubt the Tory press and media will nod sagely and say something along the lines of "this has been a bad week for fratricidal Ed."

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Heard serious talk of repeal of the Fixed-term Parliaments Act next month if the Scots vote yes - to allow an election before May next year. I absolutely cannot work out why anyone would want that, so I'm thinking of it as a massive, unignorable sign of establishment panic.

There is panic for sure, but I don't understand why you don't get that English electors aren't going to have legislators from what is going to be a foreign country votinrg on their :censored:
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I don't get the desire to get independence from the United Kingdom and then pursue direct rule from Brussels.

 

I don't get the desire to get independence from the United Kingdom and then share a currency union with a much bigger nation that, like the Germans within the Euro, would inevitably call the shots.

 

I don't get the desire to get independence from the United Kingdom and yet have no central bank of your own.

 

I understand the desire for independence. But I'm buggered if I understand what's sensible about Salmond's approach to it. Insanity rules.

 

Oh, and if Cameron loses Scotland there's no way he will be staying on as PM.

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There is panic for sure, but I don't understand why you don't get that English electors aren't going to have legislators from what is going to be a foreign country votinrg on their :censored:

People might think the idea is so self-evidently unsatisfactory that it won't happen, but it's happened on a daily basis since devolution - and no one's stormed the barricades. I think people would be pissed off if they gave it two seconds' thought. But will they?

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I don't want Independence and considering the lack of forward planning by SNP, I wouldn't be happy about voting 'yes' on what currently is on the table. Considering one of the main strengths of doing so is that they 'might' keep the pound seems a little flawed and not very independent.

 

On the otherhand, I can see the issues that they have with the government of London and in many ways, Scots and Northerners share the same problems and I hope that the Northern MP's use this opportunity to stick their boots in to grab more power for us lot.

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Another complication: any change to the date of the general election requires a two-thirds majority - so repeal of the FTPA won't happen without some god awful stitch-up, which is unlikely since all the parties to the stitch-up have nothing to gain from it.

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75% of the laws implemented in the UK are made in Brussels, regardless of what happens with Scottish Independence this must change

 

more bollocks from you.did you fact check your news source?

http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/RP10-62/how-much-legislation-comes-from-europe

https://fullfact.org/factchecks/proportion_of_uk_law_made_by_eu-3073

anything from 15% to 50% of uk law comes from the eu,but some of the laws are not actually used in the uk even though they apply to the uk. so you can see,15% or 50% you can spin it anyway you like.

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more bollocks from you.did you fact check your news source?

http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/RP10-62/how-much-legislation-comes-from-europe

https://fullfact.org/factchecks/proportion_of_uk_law_made_by_eu-3073

anything from 15% to 50% of uk law comes from the eu,but some of the laws are not actually used in the uk even though they apply to the uk. so you can see,15% or 50% you can spin it anyway you like.

 

And they're usually laws about really, really small stuff, such as the standardisation of this or that thing that no one ever thinks about. It's not as if your Eurocrats change the law against murder or anything. There's loads of reasons to despise the EU without that load of bollocks.

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That's bull:censored:.

more bollocks from you.did you fact check your news source?

http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/RP10-62/how-much-legislation-comes-from-europe

https://fullfact.org/factchecks/proportion_of_uk_law_made_by_eu-3073

anything from 15% to 50% of uk law comes from the eu,but some of the laws are not actually used in the uk even though they apply to the uk. so you can see,15% or 50% you can spin it anyway you like.

And they're usually laws about really, really small stuff, such as the standardisation of this or that thing that no one ever thinks about. It's not as if your Eurocrats change the law against murder or anything. There's loads of reasons to despise the EU without that load of bollocks.

 

http://www.ukip.org/75_of_our_laws_are_made_by_eu_institutions_says_senior_european_commissioner_viviane_reding

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Yeah, because all sensible people seek truth by visiting the UKIP website.

I may of taken your view onboard of you would of actually bothered watching the video on the link..

 

It's not a UKIP member saying this it's the EU's institutions senior European Commissioner Viviane Reding saying it

 

Maybe if you took on board what other people say instead of dismissing it all the time you MIGHT learn something for a change

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