RoyleArmy1994 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Of all destinations to go...fookin Barnsley to be reunited with judas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Has anyone got the time to count how many :censored:, goal shy forwards we've gone through between Abbott & Forte ? That's probably around the same number we'll need to go through again before we find another who can manage double figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Even if we get £250k for him we'll waste far more than that on the 10 donkeys we get through before finally replacing his goals. Massive false economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Theo Robinson is wank No he isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Last season was his first full season after 2 years of Southampton's apparently rather decent coaching. And can we drop this injury prone bollocks - he started 34 games. He's goal-prone not injury prone. He played injured didnt he as was mentioned numerous times by the management and on here and apparently word is we are selling due to being injury prone his career just doesnt shout goal prone does it? it screanms inconsistent. Nobody can tell me how many assists last season so if the goals dry up is he worth it? i want him to stay as i dont want Barnslwey getting him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Matt Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 No he isnt Yes he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeuwenhoek Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Its a Latics tradition. Beckett, Porter, Hughes, Davies, Abbott, Kuqi, Baxter, and now possibly Forte, all top scored for Latics in the last 10 years or so and all left, for vatious reasons, before or during the following season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Arent rhys turner Rhys Murphy and jake Cassidy all injury prone? Edited July 23, 2015 by SavageTheBeast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphibes Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Its a Latics tradition. Beckett, Porter, Hughes, Davies, Abbott, Kuqi, Baxter, and now possibly Forte, all top scored for Latics in the last 10 years or so and all left, for vatious reasons, before or during the following season. It is fine if players move on for good fee's and get replaced my a similar quality of player. Sadly at latics we do not do this and at best take a punt on a youngster in the hope that he will come good. If the player does turn out to be a good buy he will then be sold on for a profit and we find ourselves back to square one. It really is no wonder why we are stuck in this division with this never ending cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 No he isnt I think you mean, No he isnt FFS. 15 goals in 34 games is not "inconsistent" Starting 34 games prior to being done by an opposition player is not being "injury prone" Can we all agree on those two points? I'll make it clearer then, 13 goals in 19 games is amazing. 2 goals in 18 is :censored:e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think people need to look at the bigger picture here instead of just seeing "15 goals, he's our Alan Shearer". Yes, he scored 15 goals. I'll be the first person to say back in November when he'd stuck 13 away already that I was thinking "we've got a player on our hands here". As the season went on, and the goals started to dry up, it became obvious to me that it was simply a purple patch. A player that had flitted in and out of match-fitness throughout his career, scored 5+ goals in a single season only once prior to joining us, catching opposing teams unaware. Once teams cottoned on to him, and particular the fact our setup was mainly to try and get him on the end of everything, opposing teams began nullifying his threat or just took him out. From December onwards (so more than half the season) he scored 2 goals. That right, 2. I have struggled to find his assists stats seeing as some people are peddling out the "he's a winger, not a forward" line, but I would hazard a guess that they're extremely minimal. I can understand some of the frustration amongst us that we've been a team that has generally struggled for goals for a long time now, and therefore ask why we would consider letting one go who managed 15 goals in a single season only last year. However I can also see the business sense in letting him go if we received an offer, if true, of £100k+. £100k for an injury prone player with a questionable knee, who's main asset is pace that naturally only declines once you pass 30, who has, really, only enjoyed a purple patch once in his entire career IMO is fairly decent business. Do I want us to sell him? No, not really. Would I be arsed if we did? No, not really - especially for £100k. Of course the question is what will we do with that money? A free transfer in Gunning (who still has to impress) A free transfer in Dunn (who, despite not being the fittest himself, still has that ability to stand out above the rest of the players on the pitch in a way Sheridan once did with us). And maybe one or two more? Who know. I just dont think it's as black and white in this instance to say "do not sell a player who scored 15 goals last season". I'd be lying if I didn't say "Forte has been useless today" on a number of occasions last season (certainly December onwards). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Since scoring 13 goals in the first third of the season Forte has suffered injury problems (however caused). It is speculation to think the injury situation will continue and also that he will be injury free and tucking them away again. The fans speculation is risk free but to the club it is an expensive gamble. If there was 50 to 100 grand on the table and it was my risk I would take the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Since scoring 13 goals in the first third of the season Forte has suffered injury problems (however caused). It is speculation to think the injury situation will continue and also that he will be injury free and tucking them away again. The fans speculation is risk free but to the club it is an expensive gamble. If there was 50 to 100 grand on the table and it was my risk I would take the money. If it was down to me I would keep him - top talent in my opinion who will score 15 plus goals a season if managed correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yes he is Oh no he isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think that there are so many question marks over him, that selling Forte is understandable. Agree it's a worry that we're potentially throwing away a few goals. But it's a typical simplistic fans' view that seeing him score lots goals for a few months clouds considered calm judgment of the wider picture. An awkward one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 That journo seems to be in the know at every club he must a super source Also reported in today's Sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-latic Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm not Corney's biggest fan in the slightest. However i think it's very harsh for people to critisise him this summer. We have the most consistent squad for years and have held on to our top players. The board deserve abit of credit for a change IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsy Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Only time will tell if it's a good move or not personally I'm not that bothered would rather loose Forte than Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 A lot more pressure on the attackers now. Is Murphy, Turner, Cassidy, Poleon and Croft, Philliskirk a strike force capable of scoring 50+ goals a season? This 'attacking philosophy' Kelly has harked on about has lost its best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm not Corney's biggest fan in the slightest. However i think it's very harsh for people to critisise him this summer. We have the most consistent squad for years and have held on to our top players. The board deserve abit of credit for a change IMO We are selling one of our top players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Only time will tell if it's a good move or not personally I'm not that bothered would rather loose Forte than Kelly Why though? What are these mythical powers that King Kelly has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakerT Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Selling a first team player and leading goalscorer a couple of weeks before the start of the season...............a large majority of fans of any team in the league would be disappointed with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 We are selling one of our top players... Although we have resisted bids for others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Not seen the confirmation, but presume that this is a deal that will go through. Lies, damn lies and statistics springs to mind reading this thread. JF record at Latics can be made to look as good or as bad as you like, and that is without adding the positional agruments and injury concerns. From reading the posts, I think that the opinion of the board is similar to mine......I wouldn't have chosen to get rid of him, but at the sametime I can understand why the club might choose to do so and think that we will survice and have done after losing better players than Forte. There is enough on the doubt side (inconsistent record last seasn / an average history of goals / injury concerns etc.) for me to accept that we have chosen some cash (and presumably a decent saving on wages). Anyway I look forward to the weekly reports on this board about his goal-scoring & assists performance (or lack of) over the course of the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Although we have resisted bids for others For now, September is a long way off yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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