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On 19 April 2017 at 3:00 PM, ChaddySmoker said:

The Daily Mail and The Sun will win again.

It really is time that people stopped hiding behind this cosy coping strategy. If you really believe the press decide elections you are in fact saying that the electorate is incompetent and hoodwinked. Some electors are thick  but the electorate is not thick.

 

What makes you think the electorate are more likely to believe a Sun columnist than judge a politician's words and actions. To hide behind a bias accusation is the actions of an ostrich.

 

read 24hoursfromtulsehill above.    He too will  claim a press bias but he nails the real issues.

 

Blame the electorate for getting it wrong at your peril

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14 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Did you miss a comma after the word no?

Magister, McDuff and kowenicki fail to see the irony in turkey's using quotes from Bernard Matthews when

explaining why they should(nt) be expected to still vote for Christmas. Come up with something interesting lads.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said:

Magister, McDuff and kowenicki fail to see the irony in turkey's using quotes from Bernard Matthews when

explaining why they should(nt) be expected to still vote for Christmas. Come up with something interesting lads.

 

 

This turkey is still alive and prospering after 63 Christmas Days thanks.   Stop blaming others. What you don't get is that the electorate DO get the socialist message.

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Still makes me laugh that people with the right the vote actually don't realise that their vote is specifically and only for their local MP. 

 

With this system it's utterly pointless talking party politics unless you are fortunate enough to live in a constituency where their is potential for swing. I don't. Tories have ruled here for a century.

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2 hours ago, monkeykieran said:

Still makes me laugh that people with the right the vote actually don't realise that their vote is specifically and only for their local MP. 

 

With this system it's utterly pointless talking party politics unless you are fortunate enough to live in a constituency where their is potential for swing. I don't. Tories have ruled here for a century.

 

Valid point, and for most people on here who live in Oldham it'll be McMahon and Abrahams who will retain their seats. At the last election, I had the choice of voting in Oldham or in Sheffield where I was a student and I had a chance to vote against Nick Clegg - the man who promised that I wouldn't pay £9000/year for uni. So I voted against Clegg (who won but with a slashed majority), where I felt my vote had more of an impact. The system probably needs changing, but that's another argument for another day.

 

But... if people in safe constituencies like Oldham all vote for Labour because there's no potential for swing, then there never will be a change. Surely there's always a chance if the candidate is good enough? I'd rather my vote went to who I believed in rather than who is already in the seat.

 

My main hope for this election is a high turnout. People have a lot to say about Brexit/Tories/Corbyn, so do something about it. If you can vote, register, do your research, and vote on June 8th. I'd never tell anyone who to vote for, but I'll always tell people to get out and vote. In such an uncertain, turbulent time where we're leaving the EU, it's so important to have your say.

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9 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

Even France has turned its back on Socialism. Just 6% of the vote for Hollande's mob. Good. 

6% of Unite's membership was enough to get Len McCluskie elected last week! 

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1 hour ago, Magister said:

What are the right wing press thinking publishing such a stigmatisation??

 

And why does she want a guillotine? A French execution system what happened to good old fashioned British stocks and throwing rotten tomatoes.

 

TYPICAL OF THE EU GRAVY TRAIN AND LEFT WING LOVELIES. I BLAME THE MUSLAMS FROM MUSLAMASTAN!!! 

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On 20/04/2017 at 3:28 PM, Stevie_J said:

I never have and never will vote Tory.  But, I think what you're getting at is that currently all of the options look pretty dreadful.  I like Corbyn, and I'm dreading the manner in which he'll be demonised by the press in the coming weeks, but he's backed (or not, as the case may be) by a party full of closet Tory career politicians, and as a result Labour as a party doesn't know what it is.  As for the Lib Dems, as discussed above, I won't vote for someone who believes homosexuality is a sin and who does not have a default position of promoting equality, nor would I vote for any party that was openly up for the idea of going into coalition with the Tories.

I completely agree with you. 100%.
But it is now a matter of record that he doesn't believe it is a sin, and he won't go into coalition with any party.
Of course, he was very slow off the mark with it.
Then comes the questioin of trust. Of course, he may go back on it, but it would be suicide to do so after the Student Loans debacle.
Also, they all go back on their word at some point. The Tories have done quite a few U Turns recently, and Corbyn prmoised not to mention Trident again...!!!!

 

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We all make counter arguments to all colours of politicians. When a politician hears these arguments and changes his/ her position or action it is then denigrated as a U turn? Why are U turns always classed as a show of weakness and not a show of confidence and strength? 

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2 hours ago, Magister said:

We all make counter arguments to all colours of politicians. When a politician hears these arguments and changes his/ her position or action it is then denigrated as a U turn? Why are U turns always classed as a show of weakness and not a show of confidence and strength? 

 

Don't get me started on the poverty of the political debate in this country. We used to have Attlee versus Churchill. Now we've got Lynton Crosby versus Seamus Milne.

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