Matt Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Started messing about with numbers, manager stats in the 2000's sorted by win percentage. The 3PPW average column, is a point value on all games given that 3 points are for a win and 1 for a draw - regardless of competition or era. I'll do a full list another day. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Look at shez up there 150 games managed and still 3rd can’t really count pw, only two games. So over best part of 3 seasons he smashes it out the park. All stand for lord shez! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Pete Wild had more than 2 games bit confusing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 How is Wild only on 2 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Pete Wild had more than 2 games bit confusing this? Says 8 doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Wow. We have had 2 of our 5 best performing managers this season and we are where we are. It really does show just bad the last 18 years has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Darren Kelly with an identical record to Joe Royle's 2nd spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Says 8 doesn't it? It does now but it didn’t then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, maddog said: It does now but it didn’t then. Not a bad record at all considering a quarter of his games were against teams from higher divisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Just now, Latics and England said: Not a bad record at all considering a quarter of his games were against teams from higher divisions. Laaaad. I’d have been happy keeping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, maddog said: Laaaad. I’d have been happy keeping him. Seconded. I think we may have gotten more points under him than we have done under Scholes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 hours ago, rudemedic said: Seconded. I think we may have gotten more points under him than we have done under Scholes too. Who do you think is best equipped to build us a competitive squad over the summer? (A personal thing, but please stop writing gotten, it's like reading a Lee Child novel. ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Personally think we'd have more points if we'd of kept and backed Bunn but it is what it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 hours ago, rudemedic said: Seconded. I think we may have gotten more points under him than we have done under Scholes too. You have to think that Scholes is a better long-term appointment though, surely? Candy floss will make you bounce off the walls for a few hours, but carrots will keep you alive longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Magic Mikey said: Who do you think is best equipped to build us a competitive squad over the summer? (A personal thing, but please stop writing gotten, it's like reading a Lee Child novel. ) Scholes (probably). However, we'd have a much better squad if we get promoted and based on his first 5 games Scholes hasn't faired as well as Wild would have done on that front. That might explain it- I've read a few of his books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 9 hours ago, rudemedic said: Seconded. I think we may have gotten more points under him than we have done under Scholes too. If we're basing it on 5 games then taking Wild's form (last 5 games) the number of wins would be the same but Wild would have a lower 3PPW Ave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, nzlatic said: If we're basing it on 5 games then taking Wild's form (last 5 games) the number of wins would be the same but Wild would have a lower 3PPW Ave. Scholes wins his next three games and he goes top of the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, nzlatic said: If we're basing it on 5 games then taking Wild's form (last 5 games) the number of wins would be the same but Wild would have a lower 3PPW Ave. And if you take out Wild's draws and losses but leave Scholes's in, then Wild would have a higher one. 3PPG average in fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It obviously didn't come across this way but I was highlighting the futility of using these stats to form any opinion on Scholes so far. Which RM may not have been doing anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Latics and England said: Wow. We have had 2 of our 5 best performing managers this season and we are where we are. It really does show just bad the last 18 years has been. I suppose it doesn't take into account the fact we have been in league 2. This season. As someone who works in numbers statistics alone are meaningless without abit of back up to put them into context. Although it can tell us a few things it doesn't tell the whole picture. Mick Wadsworth always looks good in these stats yet he was given a carte blanche on signings. Its difficult to judge Pete Wild and Paul Scholes due to the sample size. It can be argued that Frankie Bunn was very harshly sacked his record was fairly good and he had to deal with a few broken promises including late payment of staff, Owners interference and his assistant sacked without him having a say on the matter. It can be argued that Paul Dickov and Andy Ritchie did pretty well when you consider the budget they worked with compared to the competition they were up against they probably both had bottom 6 budgets for the division. However Ritchie also benefited from the kind of almost unconditional fan backing as a club legend that knowone on that list received. Edited March 6, 2019 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Has anyone got the record for giving up winning during Lent, because I think this season may be a record-breaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 34 minutes ago, Diego_Sideburns said: Has anyone got the record for giving up winning during Lent, because I think this season may be a record-breaker? Not when we win at Cambridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 To get a fair comparison we need to take away the legendary PWs games with Lyden and Surridge and then compare to Scholes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 7:34 AM, yarddog73 said: Personally think we'd have more points if we'd of kept and backed Bunn but it is what it is. Personally think we wouldn't be in this division if we'd of kept and backed Sheridan but it is what it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: Personally think we wouldn't be in this division if we'd of kept and backed Sheridan but it is what it is. Do you really ? You’ve not mentioned anything along these lines before ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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