Dave_Og Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, youngen said: Personal opinion is you will get one answer: "Do one". You may well be right - but at least we'd know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said: A fair and reasonable post Dave. However, they've [The Trust] been accused by many for lacking teeth in the recent past. This is a noticeable step change and I welcome it. If it helps put an end to the the 'stuff' we all deplore and it means he appoints someone, Chief Exec or otherwise, to assist in the governance..... regardless of whether the Swans invoice is presented or not, then it would have succeeded as far as your aims are stated. He has to acutely understand the mood and our expectations of him as the custodian of our beloved club. I think this letter conveys that. I don’t disagree with any of that, the way you’ve put it. I still think demanding two or three really clear things from him from today rather than wasting time confirming he’s lied about certain things in the past would have been/could be more productive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Like it or not, the Trust represents the fans. If he fobs this off then it will hurt him financially. Not to as great an extent as it could/should from the impression I’ve been getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: I was thinking this too. Not a chance such a meeting will happen and I’m not overly arsed if it doesn’t. It’s clear to all he’s not that type. Just more pound of flesh nonsense... 35 minutes ago, yarddogs said: Let’s just sit back and do nothing then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, HarryBosch said: I don’t disagree with any of that, the way you’ve put it. I still think demanding two or three really clear things from him from today rather than wasting time confirming he’s lied about certain things in the past would have been/could be more productive. Because, as seen from the fallout from this bizarre elite-fan meeting AL set up with Chuckle & Co, we have a split fanbase. Most who believe (and deep down know) he's a lying bastard, and some naive, eyes closed and fingers in the ears fans who retain an element of trust in AL. Hopefully this will make them wake up and realise AL for what he is, and then we are all singing off the same hymn sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: Because, as seen from the fallout from this bizarre elite-fan meeting AL set up with Chuckle & Co, we have a split fanbase. Most who believe (and deep down know) he's a lying bastard, and some naive, eyes closed and fingers in the ears fans who retain an element of trust in AL. Hopefully this will make them wake up and realise AL for what he is, and then we are all singing off the same hymn sheet. Who was that group of fans and how did they end up with an audience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Not to as great an extent as it could/should from the impression I’ve been getting They've convinced more than before. Not everyone at the meeting on Saturday was a member but they were all fans. They asked the Trust to put forward questions, can you imagine if the Trust didn't? Edited March 28, 2019 by jorvik_latic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Who was that group of fans and how did they end up with an audience? I don't know for sure, but I am led to believe that AL reached out Juel (our club photographer) who then reached out to Chuckle, who then invited a select group of fans to meet with AL. Edited March 28, 2019 by sjk2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: I know for sure, but I am led to believe that AL reached out Juel (our club photographer) who then reached out to Chuckle, who then invited a select group of fans to meet with AL. And was then told to de-select some people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, jorvik_latic said: And was then told to de-select some people Including vice-chair of the trust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: I don't know for sure, but I am led to believe that AL reached out Juel (our club photographer) who then reached out to Chuckle, who then invited a select group of fans to meet with AL. And a lad called Chris Stringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: They've convinced more than before. Not everyone at the meeting on Saturday was a member but they were all fans. They asked the Trust to put forward questions, can you imagine if the Trust didn't? Yeah true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: And a lad called Chris Stringer Opinions4u son that isn’t it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Opinions4u son that isn’t it ? Yep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Read the letter. Honestly....hit and miss. Just to clarify... is the information requested for the Trust (absent board member) or for everyone to see? If it’s the latter then you wont get answers to all of that. No chance. I doubt any owner would reveal all of that directly and certainly not if it was for open publication and therefore available for all to see. Intention is right though and he definitely should engage more at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLegend Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 They were never going to win or able to please everyone with this letter. Yes it's overly demanding, but I'd rather that than something soft and fluffy that would be easy to dodge. Let's see what comes back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, LaticsLegend said: They were never going to win or able to please everyone with this letter. Yes it's overly demanding, but I'd rather that than something soft and fluffy that would be easy to dodge. Let's see what comes back. I agree. I wasn’t looking to be pleased by it I just know there is no chance of all of that being answered. Hopefully it opens doors though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Abdallah has three options. He can ignore the letter or he can try to give verbal assurances or he can tell and show us what has been going on. The most likely response will I think be somewhere in the middle when he will say he has had a constructive meeting with fans and waffle on a bit. I hope he engages with us so I can renew my season ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, HarryBosch said: The installation of an experienced and/or competent chief executive to start running the club “properly” by a certain date. And you quantify ‘properly’ by paying the bills, etc. It’s all relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLegend Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hands on said: Abdallah has three options. He can ignore the letter or he can try to give verbal assurances or he can tell and show us what has been going on. The most likely response will I think be somewhere in the middle when he will say he has had a constructive meeting with fans and waffle on a bit. I hope he engages with us so I can renew my season ticket. Can almost guarantee it will be a response that answers none of the questions directly, rather a charm offensive and promise to change his ways to try get the fans back on side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If I was him I’d think you cheeky fuckers . But the questions need to be asked, I think a few are unnecessary. Let’s see what comes back ? Bet corney is sat somewhere pissing himself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Kov made a great suggestion () about sending it to the press as an open letter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, sjk2008 said: I don't know for sure, but I am led to believe that AL reached out Juel (our club photographer) who then reached out to Chuckle, who then invited a select group of fans to meet with AL. Just shows you how out of touch the clown is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, sjk2008 said: I don't know for sure, but I am led to believe that AL reached out Juel (our club photographer) who then reached out to Chuckle, who then invited a select group of fans to meet with AL. Who is Chuckle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Who is Chuckle? Think he goes by the name Kevin Birkitt. He has a passing resemblance to one of the chuckle brothers hence the name chuckle. Glad the Trust are asking these questions their are plenty of them. Knowone would be asking for their pound of flesh if AL was running the club properly knowone cares about gas bills or any other overheads if they are done and paid for. If he goes and chooses to run the club properly then we can all go back to arguing the toss about who we play at Left Back. Edited March 28, 2019 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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