oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, maddog said: Very ‘glass half-full’ attitude. It’s also win-win. Sorry but I hate this attitude and theory it's not win-win. If Latics win, I'm unhappy I've just lost £50. If my bet wins and I've just won £55 profit I'm unhappy as the team I love have just got beat. It's therefore not win-win as you'll always be unhappy in some part no matter what happens .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, oafcshuck said: Sorry but I hate this attitude and theory it's not win-win. If Latics win, I'm unhappy I've just lost £50. If my bet wins and I've just won £55 profit I'm unhappy as the team I love have just got beat. It's therefore not win-win as you'll always be unhappy in some part no matter what happens .. No ones asking you to put the bet on, Shuck. Christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: Sorry but I hate this attitude and theory it's not win-win. If Latics win, I'm unhappy I've just lost £50. If my bet wins and I've just won £55 profit I'm unhappy as the team I love have just got beat. It's therefore not win-win as you'll always be unhappy in some part no matter what happens .. Give it to charity. That's actually a serious suggestion, you're right that making money from betting against our club wouldn't sit well but I'll happily pledge half of anything I make to the O4U charity. I have two bets on which I hope will be losers but the odds were too far out of line to resist. If they come in they will return £390; if that comes to pass I will donate £195. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Give it to charity. That's actually a serious suggestion, you're right that making money from betting against our club wouldn't sit well but I'll happily pledge half of anything I make to the O4U charity. I have two bets on which I hope will be losers but the odds were too far out of line to resist. If they come in they will return £390; if that comes to pass I will donate £195. I'm sorry but the odds aren't way out line either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: No ones asking you to put the bet on, Shuck. Christ. I don't get your point, people are saying betting on Forest Green is a win-win situation when in my opinion it's not as you can't win at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: I don't get your point, people are saying betting on Forest Green is a win-win situation when in my opinion it's not as you can't win at all! The point is it's win-win. If your bet wins, your bet wins = win. If it doesn't win, it means Latics have picked up 1/3 points = win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: I'm sorry but the odds aren't way out line either. Around 8 teams are rated as more likely to go down. You'd be hard pushed to find anyone who agrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Around 8 teams are rated as more likely to go down. You'd be hard pushed to find anyone who agrees 442 have us 2nd bottom......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clifford said: 442 have us 2nd bottom......... As do SSN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, sjk2008 said: As do SSN They must have got wind of our impressive pre season form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 21 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: As do SSN Not the Top 20 podcast has us 23rd too, although I think that's where Sky get their info from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, maddog said: The point is it's win-win. If your bet wins, your bet wins = win. If it doesn't win, it means Latics have picked up 1/3 points = win. No amount of Class A's is going to help him if they score a last minute equaliser though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, maddog said: The point is it's win-win. If your bet wins, your bet wins = win. If it doesn't win, it means Latics have picked up 1/3 points = win. But you can't win as you'll be either pissed off as you've lost money or that Latics haven't won .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: But you can't win as you'll be either pissed off as you've lost money or that Latics haven't won .. Read that back to yourself.... If Latics haven't won then you win money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, jorvik_latic said: Read that back to yourself.... If Latics haven't won then you win money. But I'll be pissed off Latics haven't won. So I won't be happy. So I won't be winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, oafcshuck said: But I'll be pissed off Latics haven't won. So I won't be happy. So I won't be winning. But you won't have lost money like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, jorvik_latic said: But you won't have lost money like you said. People call it a win-win situation. I call it a no win-no win situation, as regardless of what happens I'd be pissed off. I'd rather just back Oldham to win and then it's a win-win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: But you can't win as you'll be either pissed off as you've lost money or that Latics haven't won .. I guess betting against Latics is just not for you, I've been betting against us for years and have done pretty well doing so as well. I particularly remember a midweek match a good few years ago, we were at home to Leeds. I saw the teamsheets and thought bloody hell we are going to get mullered here, we had a few injuries and Paul Black was playing at left back (which speaks volumes for the strength of the Latics team that night). I went to the bookmaker at the back of the main stand and asked for a price on Leeds, they were 8/11, I thought that was buying money, I had a bout £120 on me and quickly put it all on. We lost the game 2-0 and never threatened the Leeds goal, I left the ground that night and although disappointed we had lost, I collected my money and didn't feel atall disloyal or that I had betrayed the club. We were going to lose with or without my bet, I just took the opportunity of profiting from the loss. I've also on occasions backed us to lose and we have either drawn or won, that's the gamble, I don't see why anyone should get bent out of shape just because they've predicted Latics to lose, we do lose quite often. Edited July 31, 2019 by Hometownclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: But I'll be pissed off Latics haven't won. So I won't be happy. So I won't be winning. You are at least guaranteed to win on something whereas your philosophy means you could either win or lose only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohairdontcare Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 The club's in such a bad state I wouldn't begrudge anyone a few quid out of betting against us. Actually, a bet's just a bet - I wouldn't begrudge them it no matter what state we're in. People are entitled to bet any way they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: People call it a win-win situation. I call it a no win-no win situation, as regardless of what happens I'd be pissed off. I'd rather just back Oldham to win and then it's a win-win situation. So what are you having then - the draw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I'm not having a go at people for it, I just firmly believe it's not a win win situation. I'd also never back against us as I want us to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: So what are you having then - the draw? Had £20 on Vera first goal, Oldham win 2-1 @ 66/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, oafcshuck said: Had £20 on Vera first goal, Oldham win 2-1 @ 66/1. Licence to print.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: Had £20 on Vera first goal, Oldham win 2-1 @ 66/1. That is a lose-lose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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