josh_latics Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 There is no sole reason we went down, there were about 9 million fuck ups that led to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Damn. I rattled that echo chamber again The sole reason we went down was thanks to a man called Simon Corney. A man who resided over a decade of cancer. Who sold the club on January 27th of a season he went into with bank accounts frozen, court dates pending and under a player embargo. And was still Chairman until being forcibly removed in May 2018. I do cringe when people want to pin relegation on AL. Says a lot about that person I'm not sure you can talk about echo chambers when I'm having a discussion with someone whose opinion differs greatly to mine. On a forum where all opinions are welcome and expressed regularly. But you crack on with going for personal insults and avoiding issues raised. I'm not arguing with you about what Corney did. And I'm not saying AL Is the sole reason for relegation or that he is 100% bad. I just have concerns about he's running things. I will have another go at asking though... based on everything that's out there (from ex employees, players etc, reports in media, club statements NOT fan rumour) - do you have any concerns about the working environment at the club under the current owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said: You'd have to be thick as fuck to think us signing those 3 is why we went down.... No need for that, is there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Stevie_J said: No need for that, is there? Just my opinion of anyone who thinks that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said: You'd have to be thick as fuck to think us signing those 3 is why we went down.... He didn't say that, but the form dip they had certainly contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, nzlatic said: I'm not sure you can talk about echo chambers when I'm having a discussion with someone whose opinion differs greatly to mine. On a forum where all opinions are welcome and expressed regularly. But you crack on with going for personal insults and avoiding issues raised. I'm not arguing with you about what Corney did. And I'm not saying AL Is the sole reason for relegation or that he is 100% bad. I just have concerns about he's running things. I will have another go at asking though... based on everything that's out there (from ex employees, players etc, reports in media, club statements NOT fan rumour) - do you have any concerns about the working environment at the club under the current owner? I know you weren't arguing what Corney did...you were pinning relegation all on AL "thanks for getting us relegated." Now you're back tracking a little. Do I have concerns about some things at the club. Yes. They're aired elsewhere. ------------------------ Definition of echo chamber: an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered. A bit like when I post a positive comment relevant to the 3 players AL signed (to try & save Corneys skin when not even owning the club) and several posters wade in with several repetitive negatives about AL which in turn takes the topic away from those 3 players being discussed, but back to the favourite topic of AL bashing Anyway...getting way off topic now. As echo chambers do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, nzlatic said: (behind the scenes being the biggest contributing factor of many in my opinion) 13 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: I know you weren't arguing what Corney did...you were pinning relegation all on AL "thanks for getting us relegated." Now you're back tracking a little. Do I have concerns about some things at the club. Yes. They're aired elsewhere. ------------------------ Definition of echo chamber: an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered. A bit like when I post a positive comment relevant to the 3 players AL signed (to try & save Corneys skin when not even owning the club) and several posters wade in with several repetitive negatives about AL which in turn takes the topic away from those 3 players being discussed, but back to the favourite topic of AL bashing Anyway...getting way off topic now. As echo chambers do "Biggest contributing factor of many". Not "pinning relegation all on AL". Just because someone doesn't agree with your "alternative idea" doesn't mean they haven't considered it. Saying anyone who disagrees with you is in an echo chamber is just a lazy insult. But I do agree that the thread has definitely gone off topic. As forums do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: The sole reason we went down was thanks to a man called Simon Corney. What utter nonsense. The reason we went down was the "perfect storm" of a) Corney's legacy issues b) The new regime's total inability to engender good teamwork c) the ego of a new manager (Wellens) in not recognising the bleeding obvious and changing things when they needed changing and d) reasonable players simply not being arsed - probably connected to b. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 That’s pretty much how I see it too but hey ho...what do I know? I’m sure BB80 will put us right shortly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 11:17 PM, League one forever said: Question. IF Lang joins tomorrow, and possibly one more. Do you people think this squad has a bit about it? Or are we still thinking bottom half? Still about 3/4 short imo if we really want to be up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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