doctor evil Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris15Arm said: And wasnt the same set up in the second half. 4-5-1 switching to 9-1-0 And that's the problem. He doesn't learn. I've watched us enough this season to see that we're poor defensively, whether that's through mistakes or just a lack of quality. We very rarely keep clean sheets. First half we weren't brilliant but we had an attacking threat and kept them pretty quiet. 2nd half we got the goal and then immediately dropped back. Why? It was inevitable what was going to happen after that. You can't spend half a game sat back allowing the opposition to keep coming at you with no outlet. Yet he did nothing to change it. We used 1 sub (not counting the last 1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Chatting to a Crewe supporter after the game he said that they are doing well because they keep on going right to the end wearing down the opposition. You would have thought Dino would know this. If he decided just to hold on to 1 0 why didn't he make the tactical changes needed to do so? He could have taken any one of Nepo, Mouche or Missile off as they don't have the desire to track back. You can't hold on when only eight are doing the holding. Did he not see what was going on or is he not allowed to see how poor these three are at defending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 We are not good enough to sit back and invite pressure, it really is that simple.. The sted head wont be with us next season with a bit of luck, im all for giving managers a chance but he doesnt have a clue and im sure he doesnt believe half the shit he speaks himself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Hands on said: Chatting to a Crewe supporter after the game he said that they are doing well because they keep on going right to the end wearing down the opposition. You would have thought Dino would know this. If he decided just to hold on to 1 0 why didn't he make the tactical changes needed to do so? He could have taken any one of Nepo, Mouche or Missile off as they don't have the desire to track back. You can't hold on when only eight are doing the holding. Did he not see what was going on or is he not allowed to see how poor these three are at defending? The defending wasn't that bad. The problem was every ball we won was eventually hoofed away only to come back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The defence has improved since Borthwick and Piergianni arrived. The problem is being savvy enough to slow play down straight after we score and maintain possession when the opposition come out fighting. To do what ever we need to do to take the sting out of things. Also, if we stay busy with the ball and keep pressing, its for the opposition to worry about us, not the other way round where we are hanging on for dear life. Not a lot the opposing side can do without the ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, True Tic said: The defence has improved since Borthwick and Piergianni arrived. The problem is being savvy enough to slow play down straight after we score and maintain possession when the opposition come out fighting. To do what ever we need to do to take the sting out of things. Also, if we stay busy with the ball and keep pressing, its for the opposition to worry about us, not the other way round where we are hanging on for dear life. Not a lot the opposing side can do without the ball... Good luck holding onto the ball when your midfield consists of Maouche, Missilou and Sylla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Good luck holding onto the ball when your midfield consists of Maouche, Missilou and Sylla. Yep, but its something which needs to be learned if we are to get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, True Tic said: Yep, but its something which needs to be learned if we are to get anywhere. 48 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Good luck holding onto the ball when your midfield consists of Maouche, Missilou and Sylla. It might be easier to get somebody who can do it already rather awaiting an epiphany of said skill with those 3 wise men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayfield Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Good luck holding onto the ball when your midfield consists of Maouche, Missilou and Sylla. We shouldn't be so reliant on one player, but, reinstall Chris McCann in midfield and we are a very different outfit i.e. can keep possession and thread intelligent passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The issue isn't that those 3 can't keep hold of the ball. all 3 can. It's when it's hoofed past them into the air we lose it most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperKeeper Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 11 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: The issue isn't that those 3 can't keep hold of the ball. all 3 can. It's when it's hoofed past them into the air we lose it most We have a winner. Mills can sometimes pick out a blue shirt, but is a bit erratic. The other three? Aimless punts, particularly later in the game. They gift possession straight back to the opposition 90% of the time they get the ball. No time for the other players to move out so we end up with nine behind the ball, like yesterday. It's fine to protect a one goal lead in the last five minutes. We can't do it for forty minutes, or to chase the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperKeeper Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 21 hours ago, Hands on said: He could have taken any one of Nepo, Mouche or Missile off as they don't have the desire to track back. You can't hold on when only eight are doing the holding. Did he not see what was going on or is he not allowed to see how poor these three are at defending? Maouche was playing up front. Do you really want ten players "holding", or should Hamer and Wheater at least have one or two players to aimlessly punt the ball at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 Has he gone yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, fleetwood Blue said: Has he gone yet?? I said before the game it was a test of his tactics. First half we matched up well to them, Second half we had no chance regardless of tactics due to the red card. There will be matches where Dino should take the blame. Tonight wasn't one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: I said before the game it was a test of his tactics. First half we matched up well to them, Second half we had no chance regardless of tactics due to the red card. There will be matches where Dino should take the blame. Tonight wasn't one though. Ive just seen the goals and he continues to put that useless shit in the net, who is to blame for 4 of their goals...Definitely his fault.. Dino will come out and obviously say we were the better team until the sending off but you cannot condone what Zeus is doing and continue to pick him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Teams often struggle against 10 men but against our lot it becomes a piece of piss!! This team appears fucking powderpuff and clueless but whether it be application or attitude for me the buck stops firmly at Dino’s door. He must rank as one of the worst coaches we’ve ever had....Branger FFS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 hours ago, the_mighty_bosh said: I said before the game it was a test of his tactics. First half we matched up well to them, Second half we had no chance regardless of tactics due to the red card. There will be matches where Dino should take the blame. Tonight wasn't one though. But surely we become compact when down to 10 and frustrate them? Don't capitulate! We had too many who simply downed tools last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, welshgaz said: But surely we become compact when down to 10 and frustrate them? Don't capitulate! We had too many who simply downed tools last night. For me it wasn't downing tools or a lack of effort from our outfield players. We chased them down as they were moving the ball about well in the 2nd half with the extra man. They can't be responsible for bad goalkeeping errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I'd say there's a definite lack of enthusiasm. The body language suggests they're just going through the motions. That tackle on Smith - all other teams would be squaring up to the opposition, hounding the ref. I know Dino's apparently told them not to have a go at the ref, but that and every other aspect of their performance makes it come across that they can't be arsed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, JoeP said: I'd say there's a definite lack of enthusiasm. The body language suggests they're just going through the motions. That tackle on Smith - all other teams would be squaring up to the opposition, hounding the ref. I know Dino's apparently told them not to have a go at the ref, but that and every other aspect of their performance makes it come across that they can't be arsed... This has been a theme all season. Wheater should be the first in there as captain. He isn't a leader at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: For me it wasn't downing tools or a lack of effort from our outfield players. We chased them down as they were moving the ball about well in the 2nd half with the extra man. They can't be responsible for bad goalkeeping errors. Dino continues to pick a keeper who’s making mistake after mistake. Get the young lad Allen in there we won’t go up or down so get him bedded in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Fervid said: Dino continues to pick a keeper who’s making mistake after mistake. Get the young lad Allen in there we won’t go up or down so get him bedded in now. Not the right environment to be playing such a young goalkeeper IMO. There might be no other option though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, welshgaz said: But surely we become compact when down to 10 and frustrate them? Don't capitulate! We had too many who simply downed tools last night. He immediately took Branger off who had been playing quite well, especially when carrying the ball. Might have been an idea to let him continue carrying & keeping the ball for as much of the rest of the match as possible after going down to 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: He immediately took Branger off who had been playing quite well, especially when carrying the ball. Might have been an idea to let him continue carrying & keeping the ball for as much of the rest of the match as possible after going down to 10 men. Branger might've been OK when he had the ball at his feet, but he really seems to be a step behind the rest of the team when anticipating where passes are going on a regular basis, and a lot of our play breaks down from that. He would've been the player I'd have sacrificed after Wheater's red. Although Missilou was a close 2nd, he shouldn't be an option for that advanced midfield role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I would take 5 more years of the Lemsagam regime if it meant we sacked this guy today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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