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League one forever Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, adamoafc said: Have to be honest though I’ve no interest in Joining in the trust, because it would have to change so fundamentally and become the polar opposite of what it is now and I don’t think there is an appetite for that from those within. I sense a power/ideology battle, which we don’t need. What is more important at the minute, shaping the trust to reflect the majority of fans? Or applying pressure on the owner to leave? For me it’s the latter, and Id just like to see public backing of one another for the greater good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, League one forever said: What is more important at the minute, shaping the trust to reflect the majority of fans? Or applying pressure on the owner to leave? For me it’s the latter, and Id just like to see public backing of one another for the greater good. Sadly (for me at least) after the OASF June update yesterday this comment by @League one forever rings true. The Trust has unanimously voted NOT to support the 3000 signature Fans petition/letter asking the owners to sell (which the Trust board has the right to do), choosing instead to continue working with the club... A question I would ask the Trust is what (if anything) do you plan to do about ‘working with the club’ to provide a response to the letter? Surely the Trust must see that a response is needed? I am already seriously considering renouncing my membership of OASF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Sadly (for me at least) after the OASF June update yesterday this comment by @League one forever rings true. The Trust has unanimously voted NOT to support the 3000 signature Fans petition/letter asking the owners to sell (which the Trust board has the right to do), choosing instead to continue working with the club... A question I would ask the Trust is what (if anything) do you plan to do about ‘working with the club’ to provide a response to the letter? Surely the Trust must see that a response is needed? I am already seriously considering renouncing my membership of OASF... Paul should be back from holiday now shouldn’t he? I’m still interested to hear his opinions on the “board update” some 2 weeks ago that he presumably was aware of Edit - just seems the OASF statement released yesterday. No offence to @singe who has helped the lottery or @underdogwho I have a lot of time for - but my recently acquired membership will be revoked immediately. That statement is an absolute disgrace and could have been written by Karl Evans himself. the “PTB letter” excuse me it was not “PTB letter” it was a petition I signed and therefore my f**king letter and to be told it garnered no meaningful discussion at a board meeting with a fans fucking rep on board says it all. The trust, foundation whatever can get stuffed - I’m out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Paul should be back from holiday now shouldn’t he? I’m still interested to hear his opinions on the “board update” some 2 weeks ago that he presumably was aware of Edit - just seems the OASF statement released yesterday. No offence to @singe who has helped the lottery or @underdogwho I have a lot of time for - but my recently acquired membership will be revoked immediately. That statement is an absolute disgrace and could have been written by Karl Evans himself. the “PTB letter” excuse me it was not “PTB letter” it was a petition I signed and therefore my f**king letter and to be told it garnered no meaningful discussion at a board meeting with a fans fucking rep on board says it all. The trust, foundation whatever can get stuffed - I’m out Can anyone provide a link to the OASF statement, as I seem to have missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, LaticMark said: Can anyone provide a link to the OASF statement, as I seem to have missed it. Here mate http://www.trustoldham.org/2021/06/25/june-update-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Paul should be back from holiday now shouldn’t he? I’m still interested to hear his opinions on the “board update” some 2 weeks ago that he presumably was aware of Edit - just seems the OASF statement released yesterday. No offence to @singe who has helped the lottery or @underdogwho I have a lot of time for - but my recently acquired membership will be revoked immediately. That statement is an absolute disgrace and could have been written by Karl Evans himself. the “PTB letter” excuse me it was not “PTB letter” it was a petition I signed and therefore my f**king letter and to be told it garnered no meaningful discussion at a board meeting with a fans fucking rep on board says it all. The trust, foundation whatever can get stuffed - I’m out Spot on. 16/17 years after it’s inception, and the gradual descent to the bottom of the football league and it STILL wants to be bed with the owner/s. It makes me wonder- what would have to happen for the trust to go even remotely hostile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, League one forever said: Spot on. 16/17 years after it’s inception, and the gradual descent to the bottom of the football league and it STILL wants to be bed with the owner/s. It makes me wonder- what would have to happen for the trust to go even remotely hostile? Do we need two protest groups though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Do we need two protest groups though? Why does speaking out when things are being run badly make anybody a protest group? Healthy pressure! This is what the fan led review is all about. There is a massive difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Do we need two protest groups though? No we don’t. We need an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, adamoafc said: Why does speaking out when things are being run badly make anybody a protest group? Healthy pressure! This is what the fan led review is all about. There is a massive difference. You are trying to force an owner out with no succession plan in place. Just hoping someone else will come along to take it on isn't healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, League one forever said: No we don’t. We need an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation. Which is what? Things are a bit shit and we don't like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, deyres42 said: You are trying to force an owner out with no succession plan in place. Just hoping someone else will come along to take it on isn't healthy. As we have said numerous times there have been bids made for the club by people far wealthier than Abdallah. I would suggest that isn’t just ‘hoping’. Interest continues to be there just not for £3-£5 million when you would only be buying a ‘brand’ Abdallah doesn’t even own the badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, adamoafc said: As we have said numerous times there have been bids made for the club by people far wealthier than Abdallah. I would suggest that isn’t just ‘hoping’. Interest continues to be there just not for £3-£5 million when you would only be buying a ‘brand’ Abdallah doesn’t even own the badge. If they are that wealthy then paying a bit extra to get what you what shouldn't be a problem surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Here mate http://www.trustoldham.org/2021/06/25/june-update-2/ What that statement says it that we are not prepared to represent legitimate fans grievances at Board Level. Now I'm not one to take digs at people who are volunteers but that statement is pathetically weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 minute ago, GlossopLatic said: What that statement says it that we are not prepared to represent legitimate fans grievances at Board Level. Now I'm not one to take digs at people who are volunteers but that statement is pathetically weak. agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: If they are that wealthy then paying a bit extra to get what you what shouldn't be a problem surely. If you are in business Rob i’m sure you know paying over the odds is not what you, do especially given there is a stadium to buy also. Who in their right mind is going to pay near on £11mill for the ground and club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Which is what? Things are a bit shit and we don't like it? I’ve missed you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, adamoafc said: If you are in business Rob i’m sure you know paying over the odds is not what you, do especially given there is a stadium to buy also. Who in their right mind is going to pay near on £11mill for the ground and club? Nobody but realistically it wouldn't take anything like that number to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 So these mystery bidders, how serious are they ? Corney searched for years, now there is lots of interested parties. What are they proposing they buy? The badge or the full lot? They could buy the ground and force AL into admin and get the club for free? What are they offering? How far apart is the figure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Here mate http://www.trustoldham.org/2021/06/25/june-update-2/ That statement is pretty awful. Trust, Foundation, whatever you want to call it. Things aren't going to change much are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Mission Statement Ensure the existence of a successful, well-supported and inclusive professional football club based in Oldham MBC; act as the official and representative supporters group which holds a share in the Club; hold the Club accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: That statement is pretty awful. Trust, Foundation, whatever you want to call it. Things aren't going to change much are they? It’s laughable - if the trust came out and said Karl Evans had hacked their account I’d be tempted to believe them They can fold for me, will have absolutely nothing more to do with them - an entity with 200 members actually admitting to ignoring the will of 3,000 and they want us to join??? Fold and let people who will actually ask the club difficult questions take over - massive massive own goal and in terms of reading a room - get to Specsavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Mission Statement Ensure the existence of a successful, well-supported and inclusive professional football club based in Oldham MBC; act as the official and representative supporters group which holds a share in the Club; hold the Club accountable. Now if that mission statement has any meaning whatsoever they will retract that statement and go back to the club and ask them for a response regarding the petition signed by the vast majority of our match going fanbase. It was Winston Churchill who once said "An appeasor is someone who feeds a crocodile and hopes it will eat him last" That is all they are doing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Would urge everyone to email hello@trustoldham.org As I can see here and Twitter being ignored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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