Emcee_Latic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 As far as I understand the problem is with the internal fire doors in the OEC. There are no fire doors concerned with the seating area of the North Stand!!! If there is a fire in the North Stand, I'll be on the pitch with the rest of you. Closing the OEC until the problem is resolved I can understand but there is no reason to close the seating area. The club are taking the piss out of the fans as usual!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Emcee_Latic said: As far as I understand the problem is with the internal fire doors in the OEC. There are no fire doors concerned with the seating area of the North Stand!!! If there is a fire in the North Stand, I'll be on the pitch with the rest of you. Closing the OEC until the problem is resolved I can understand but there is no reason to close the seating area. The club are taking the piss out of the fans as usual!!!!!! What is the problem with the internal fire doors in the OEC? Apart from the fact that they are not owned by Abdallah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLYOWD Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Change the FIRE EXIT sign to FREE PIE on the fire door and BO would be through it quick enough to satisfy any safety regulation concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Emcee_Latic said: As far as I understand the problem is with the internal fire doors in the OEC. There are no fire doors concerned with the seating area of the North Stand!!! If there is a fire in the North Stand, I'll be on the pitch with the rest of you. Closing the OEC until the problem is resolved I can understand but there is no reason to close the seating area. The club are taking the piss out of the fans as usual!!!!!! The line of work I am in states that fire doors must be present and closed. They contain fires and help prevent them from spreading rapidly. If the structure is deemed unsafe because of an issue with the internal fire doors, then the whole stand becomes unusable. It's not really anything underhanded in that respect, no matter how many exclamation marks you use. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 If it is something to do with internal fire doors, surely this would have been spotted by a buildings inspector at the time of construction? Or certainly before it was given a safety certificate to open in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Wardie said: The line of work I am in states that fire doors must be present and closed. They contain fires and help prevent them from spreading rapidly. If the structure is deemed unsafe because of an issue with the internal fire doors, then the whole stand becomes unusable. It's not really anything underhanded in that respect, no matter how many exclamation marks you use. Draw us a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Was it a full stadium inspection? Or is it done in stages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: If it is something to do with internal fire doors, surely this would have been spotted by a buildings inspector at the time of construction? Or certainly before it was given a safety certificate to open in the first place! Quite correct. What has changed? If one or more fire doors has since become broken or not operating in a correct manner, it's something a joiner could probably fix in an hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Quite correct. What has changed? If one or more fire doors has since become broken or not operating in a correct manner, it's something a joiner could probably fix in an hour or I don't get why everyone is blaming the club for this, if the problem is so simple to fix why haven't the oec, fixed the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Wardie said: The line of work I am in states that fire doors must be present and closed. They contain fires and help prevent them from spreading rapidly. If the structure is deemed unsafe because of an issue with the internal fire doors, then the whole stand becomes unusable. It's not really anything underhanded in that respect, no matter how many exclamation marks you use. Fire doors do not have to be closed. Ours at work are on magnetic retainers that release when the alarm is activated, or door guard type at the base of the door. GloGym was open and operating during the match. The OEC us unaffected on non match days. These are therefore likely to be technical breaches. My guess is the main issue is CCTV in real time back to the commander is the issue, but that could be as simple as a broken link for a camera, but the issue is who is responsble for repair. Looking at the list below, all could be minor issues Damaged defective fire doors failure passive fire protection Fire escape routes obstructed Fire escape doors locked not easily operable Lack of fire safety management procedures CCTV not fully operational that is operated in real time back to controller Lack of effective method of recording all members of the public who enter the North Stand and therefore under the control of the safety officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, latics22 said: I don't get why everyone is blaming the club for this, if the problem is so simple to fix why haven't the oec, fixed the problem? Who benefits most from the stand being closed? Not the OEC, not Brassbank. Who went on a rant at the Fans Forum in OCtober with basically these points (clue he had his tea in the meeting) Also a) If it is landlord issues it will be Brassbank , OEC only operate on match day as contractor b) OAFC is responsible for match day, and the letter is addressed to the owner c) Glo Gym operated through the match, a Zumba class, and OEC is operational throughout non match day events so it's not immediately life threatening Whose blockages and actions are they? You've assumed it is OEC side of the fire door.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Can I please ask that they sort it as soon as possible? I want to go back to my seat. I don't want to sit in the RRE again. Why can no one sit in their seat for 45 minutes without getting up and going out? Why if they get up to go out can they not get up and go out rather than getting up standing upright and watching the game for 5 seconds? Why do they sit watching their phones rather than the game? Why do the teenagers change seats? Why do I feel so old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, astottie said: Can I please ask that they sort it as soon as possible? I want to go back to my seat. I don't want to sit in the RRE again. Why can no one sit in their seat for 45 minutes without getting up and going out? Why if they get up to go out can they not get up and go out rather than getting up standing upright and watching the game for 5 seconds? Why do they sit watching their phones rather than the game? Why do the teenagers change seats? Why do I feel so old? Have you thought about sitting in the main stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, rudemedic said: Have you thought about sitting in the main stand? What, with the old, miserable, moaning buggers? Why would I want to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, astottie said: Can I please ask that they sort it as soon as possible? I want to go back to my seat. I don't want to sit in the RRE again. Why can no one sit in their seat for 45 minutes without getting up and going out? Why if they get up to go out can they not get up and go out rather than getting up standing upright and watching the game for 5 seconds? Why do they sit watching their phones rather than the game? Why do the teenagers change seats? Why do I feel so old? Any comments about the drum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, astottie said: What, with the old, miserable, moaning buggers? Why would I want to do that? Nothing wrong with the main stand lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFC_ULTRA Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Nothing wrong with the main stand lower. Apart from that isnt where he chose or payed to sit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, astottie said: What, with the old, miserable, moaning buggers? Why would I want to do that? I presume the irony about moaning is deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: I presume the irony about moaning is deliberate. Tongue firmly in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Magic Mikey said: Any comments about the drum? Quite happy with the drum. The 'playing ' of it was a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, astottie said: Tongue firmly in cheek. Incidentally, exactly how Barry has stayed on two different boards... only his is in other people’s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Incidentally, exactly how Barry has stayed on two different boards... only his is in other people’s... That. and the bullying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 hours ago, latics22 said: I don't get why everyone is blaming the club for this, if the problem is so simple to fix why haven't the oec, fixed the problem? Strong rumour the club have refused to meet the OEC & Safety Advisory Group. If true, and well sourced, then that tells you all you need to know and fans are merely pawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, singe said: Strong rumour the club have refused to meet the OEC & Safety Advisory Group. If true, and well sourced, then that tells you all you need to know and fans are merely pawns. Fix the problems first then ask the Council H&S office to insist AL signs the document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Fix the problems first then ask the Council H&S office to insist AL signs the document. Depends on the cost. At the moment the owner has no incetive to sign them and it's in his interest to keep it shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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