Official COVID-19 megathread

[Matt]

53 minutes ago, Ackey said:

I bet the entire thing is built in M$ Power Automate

 

I think you're being way too generous.

[al_bro]

4 hours ago, singe said:

Seems the 16,000 "glitch" (nice underplay by the meek media) was caused by Serco/Deloitte using Excel base instead of straight into a database and it ran out of cloumns. How much are they charging for that expertise.

Couldn't make it  up could you.

[Bobledgersheart]

53 minutes ago, al_bro said:

Couldn't make it  up could you.

That's all this lot do...... make it up as they go along.

[al_bro]

1 hour ago, Bobledgersheart said:

That's all this lot do...... make it up as they go along.

I don't think the other lot would have done much better. They are great at saying what they would have done in hindsight.

[Matt]

22 minutes ago, al_bro said:

I don't think the other lot would have done much better. They are great at saying what they would have done in hindsight.

 

Let's give them a try.

[Wardie]

11 minutes ago, al_bro said:

I don't think the other lot would have done much better. They are great at saying what they would have done in hindsight.

It is very easy to say "We would have done this or that"...I think a cross-party think tank should have been set-up to deal with the situation and develop the policies.

[Behind Closed Doors]

10 minutes ago, Wardie said:

It is very easy to say "We would have done this or that"...I think a cross-party think tank should have been set-up to deal with the situation and develop the policies.

“Cross party think tank” I think you might be giving politicians of whatever persuasion more credibility than is reality

 

The policies will be worked up by civil servants, specialist advisers, subject “ experts“ contracted  Consultants etc etc .....I would not trust Hancock and Ashworth to put their heads together to advise us on paracetamol dosage

[nzlatic]

50 minutes ago, al_bro said:

I don't think the other lot would have done much better. They are great at saying what they would have done in hindsight.

I don't think it needed hindsight to guess there'd be a spike in test demand in early September.

 

There are still plenty of adults left in the House of Commons.  Unfortunately virtually none of them are in charge.

[Worcester Owl]

27 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

Let's give them a try.

Shadow Health Secretary Jon Ashworth on Andrew Marr on Sunday:

Marr - Should Corbyn be prosecuted for his dinner party?

Ashworth - The SNP MP must resign.

 

Give them a try? No thanks.

[Bobledgersheart]

57 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said:

Shadow Health Secretary Jon Ashworth on Andrew Marr on Sunday:

Marr - Should Corbyn be prosecuted for his dinner party?

Ashworth - The SNP MP must resign.

 

Give them a try? No thanks.

They all use deflection to varying extents.

That's the MP's of course...............not their advisors who just make up ridiculous excuses for their indiscretions ! 

[Dave_Og]

2 hours ago, al_bro said:

I don't think the other lot would have done much better. They are great at saying what they would have done in hindsight.

Fact is the electorate were presented with the worst choice in history. The political system in this country is spectacularly broken. Wish I knew the answer. 

[Dave_Og]

2 hours ago, nzlatic said:

 

 

There are still plenty of adults left in the House of Commons.  Unfortunately virtually none of them are in charge.

And they've all been completely consumed by the requirement to be on party message. 

[Matt]

2 hours ago, Worcester Owl said:

Shadow Health Secretary Jon Ashworth on Andrew Marr on Sunday:

Marr - Should Corbyn be prosecuted for his dinner party?

Ashworth - The SNP MP must resign.

 

Give them a try? No thanks.

 

I think we owe it to the next generation to boot this lot out before it's too late.

 

Generally speaking, not limited to the handling of COVID19...

 

Grenfell and subsiquent enquiries.

Windrush.

Jenrick.

Dominic Cummings.

Patel bullying enquiry.

Patel misunderstanding of common law.

Grayling.

Kent border.

GFA.

The fridge.

Hancock.

Lebedev.

Amber Rudd.

Exams.

Limited and specific law-breaking.

Helen Whately.

Brexit.

Boris Johnson.

 

Kakistocracy. We're due a change, let's try something else - and if it doesn't get any better then we can vote them out again. I've had enough of this lot and there's something every day now, always something else - I'm weary of the incompetence of the Government.

[Matt]

How the fuck did Clair Fox get a peerage? I mean we could look at any of them, but how did that happen?

 

(edit: I'm aware this is going off-topic, please go ahead and bypass - I'll shut up now )

[Behind Closed Doors]

14 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

I think we owe it to the next generation to boot this lot out before it's too late.

 

Generally speaking, not limited to the handling of COVID19...

 

Grenfell and subsiquent enquiries.

Windrush.

Jenrick.

Dominic Cummings.

Patel bullying enquiry.

Patel misunderstanding of common law.

Grayling.

Kent border.

GFA.

The fridge.

Hancock.

Lebedev.

Amber Rudd.

Exams.

Limited and specific law-breaking.

Helen Whately.

Brexit.

Boris Johnson.

 

Kakistocracy. We're due a change, let's try something else - and if it doesn't get any better then we can vote them out again. I've had enough of this lot and there's something every day now, always something else - I'm weary of the incompetence of the Government.

...but when the alternative presented was Corbyn Abbott and MacDonnell you are left with the choice of this govt or emigration 

[Chaddyexile84]

1 hour ago, Dave_Og said:

Fact is the electorate were presented with the worst choice in history. The political system in this country is spectacularly broken. Wish I knew the answer. 

Not sure it was ever fixed to be broken.
 

Democracy is a myth to keep the peasants under control - in real terms we are no different than we were 500 years ago, they just allow us to think we are choosing our tyrant every few years - and even then the number of votes matters not.

 

The world is fucked and it will never ever not be 

[Behind Closed Doors]

7 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said:

Not sure it was ever fixed to be broken.
 

Democracy is a myth to keep the peasants under control - in real terms we are no different than we were 500 years ago, they just allow us to think we are choosing our tyrant every few years - and even then the number of votes matters not.

 

The world is fucked and it will never ever not be 

Oh dear ....Rowe for PM would sort it though ?

[al_bro]

17 hours ago, Matt said:

 

I think we owe it to the next generation to boot this lot out before it's too late.

 

Generally speaking, not limited to the handling of COVID19...

 

Grenfell and subsiquent enquiries.

Windrush.

Jenrick.

Dominic Cummings.

Patel bullying enquiry.

Patel misunderstanding of common law.

Grayling.

Kent border.

GFA.

The fridge.

Hancock.

Lebedev.

Amber Rudd.

Exams.

Limited and specific law-breaking.

Helen Whately.

Brexit.

Boris Johnson.

 

Kakistocracy. We're due a change, let's try something else - and if it doesn't get any better then we can vote them out again. I've had enough of this lot and there's something every day now, always something else - I'm weary of the incompetence of the Government.

I could list just as many from other parties, starting with the shadow front bench before the election. I can't be bothered listing any more.

[kowenicki]

17 hours ago, Matt said:

 

I think we owe it to the next generation to boot this lot out before it's too late.

 

Generally speaking, not limited to the handling of COVID19...

 

Grenfell and subsiquent enquiries.

Windrush.

Jenrick.

Dominic Cummings.

Patel bullying enquiry.

Patel misunderstanding of common law.

Grayling.

Kent border.

GFA.

The fridge.

Hancock.

Lebedev.

Amber Rudd.

Exams.

Limited and specific law-breaking.

Helen Whately.

Brexit.

Boris Johnson.

 

Kakistocracy. We're due a change, let's try something else - and if it doesn't get any better then we can vote them out again. I've had enough of this lot and there's something every day now, always something else - I'm weary of the incompetence of the Government.

 

The alternative made that (questionable list) almost look like Utopia though.

 

The left in this country is a cesspit of incompetence, corruption, inexperience, bigotry and a ridiculous obsession with identity politics over anything, and indeed everything, else.  But they do ALWAYS know best... so there is that. 

 

The choices from all angles are pretty bad at the moment.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

18 hours ago, Matt said:

 

I think we owe it to the next generation to boot this lot out before it's too late.

 

Generally speaking, not limited to the handling of COVID19...

 

Grenfell and subsiquent enquiries.

Windrush.

Jenrick.

Dominic Cummings.

Patel bullying enquiry.

Patel misunderstanding of common law.

Grayling.

Kent border.

GFA.

The fridge.

Hancock.

Lebedev.

Amber Rudd.

Exams.

Limited and specific law-breaking.

Helen Whately.

Brexit.

Boris Johnson.

 

Kakistocracy. We're due a change, let's try something else - and if it doesn't get any better then we can vote them out again. I've had enough of this lot and there's something every day now, always something else - I'm weary of the incompetence of the Government.

 

Totally agree mate. However the deeply rooted problem is the massive influence that the (mostly right-wing) media in general, army of social media bots and frankly fake shite that is peddled by people who really should know better on Facebook is what keeps these cretins in power. The culture of blaming immigrants for ills that have really been born from decades of government mismanagement is rife. The only seeds of hope can be in the next generation who have royally been shat on from the GCSE blunder (which should be added to that list) never, ever forget this.

 

The alternative isn't all that much better either IMO, but ANYTHING has to be better than a tory government if you're anything other than in the top 5% most wealthiest in the country.

[LaticMark]

18 hours ago, Matt said:

How the fuck did Clair Fox get a peerage? I mean we could look at any of them, but how did that happen?

 

(edit: I'm aware this is going off-topic, please go ahead and bypass - I'll shut up now )

 

Munira Mirza (who is from Oldham) is one of Boris Johnson's advisers. She has past connections with the Revolutionary Communist Party, which Fox was a member of. According to reports she recommended Fox to Johnson.

 

OK. Back to Covid-19.

[nzlatic]

25 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

 

Totally agree mate. However the deeply rooted problem is the massive influence that the (mostly right-wing) media in general, army of social media bots and frankly fake shite that is peddled by people who really should know better on Facebook is what keeps these cretins in power. The culture of blaming immigrants for ills that have really been born from decades of government mismanagement is rife. The only seeds of hope can be in the next generation who have royally been shat on from the GCSE blunder (which should be added to that list) never, ever forget this.

 

The alternative isn't all that much better either IMO, but ANYTHING has to be better than a tory government if you're anything other than in the top 5% most wealthiest in the country.

Not to mention how they always seem to be giving a big speech about fixing something that's wrong with the country, kind of ignoring the fact that they've had 10 years in power to fix it already.  Speeches that seem to be more soundbites to rile up the angry masses rather than actually offering solutions or actions to fix things.

 

We've had bad governments from both sides of the house, but I'm not sure how anyone could look at the current lot and not think we're doing anything other than completely scraping the bottom of the barrel.  Which is also completely damning of how incompetent Corbyn was - he was destroyed by them!

[oafc 123]

2 hours ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

 

Totally agree mate. However the deeply rooted problem is the massive influence that the (mostly right-wing) media in general, army of social media bots and frankly fake shite that is peddled by people who really should know better on Facebook is what keeps these cretins in power. The culture of blaming immigrants for ills that have really been born from decades of government mismanagement is rife. The only seeds of hope can be in the next generation who have royally been shat on from the GCSE blunder (which should be added to that list) never, ever forget this.

 

The alternative isn't all that much better either IMO, but ANYTHING has to be better than a tory government if you're anything other than in the top 5% most wealthiest in the country.

 

I do agree but there was a hell of a lot left wing propaganda before the last election on social media.  Corbyn was all over Twitter especially and it was extremely pro Labour.

 

Where they went wrong was when out of touch celebrities started telling us how to vote.  This is the exact same mistake Hillary Clinton made before her election.  

 

 

 

  

[Matt]

2 hours ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said:

 

Totally agree mate. However the deeply rooted problem is the massive influence that the (mostly right-wing) media in general, army of social media bots and frankly fake shite that is peddled by people who really should know better on Facebook is what keeps these cretins in power. The culture of blaming immigrants for ills that have really been born from decades of government mismanagement is rife. The only seeds of hope can be in the next generation who have royally been shat on from the GCSE blunder (which should be added to that list) never, ever forget this.

 

Absolutely, they did a job on Corbyn (they did a similar job on Michael Foot too back in the day). Spin machines churn out memes and bot posts about MP's getting numbers mixed up, or just for eating a sandwich, or drinking a can; however you can count on one hand how many memes there are about an MP saying Grenfell victims lacked common sense, or the successive MP's who lost and destroyed a hundred sex case files at the Home Office, etc.

 

General public are being played.

[Bobledgersheart]

10 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

Absolutely, they did a job on Corbyn (they did a similar job on Michael Foot too back in the day). Spin machines churn out memes and bot posts about MP's getting numbers mixed up, or just for eating a sandwich, or drinking a can; however you can count on one hand how many memes there are about an MP saying Grenfell victims lacked common sense, or the successive MP's who lost and destroyed a hundred sex case files at the Home Office, etc.

 

General public are being played.

Maggie did a great con job convincing working class people they were "middle class" and therefore superior to those less fortunate whilst decimating the nationalised industries selling them primarily to hedge funds and the like. The individuals who joined in were appeased with their short term profits. 

Unfortunately it's human nature's worst trait and almost always succeeds.