Clubfootkilkenny Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 10 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Obviously I’m in a minority of one, but I didn’t think he was terrible. He had some skills but simply made too many errors. It was right for him to move on though and hopefully he will find a coach that can help him progress as a player. Good luck Alex. what skills did he have? You’re one of my favourite posters on here BigDog but come on, he was atrocious. Think you’re giving him the sympathy vote because he seemed like a decent bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 11 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Obviously I’m in a minority of one, but I didn’t think he was terrible. He had some skills but simply made too many errors. It was right for him to move on though and hopefully he will find a coach that can help him progress as a player. Good luck Alex. He was a full back who almost refused to tackle. Wide players must have loved playing against him. He had the physical attributes so he either lacked the ability to time a tackle - he just seemed to run alongside them - or he lacked a bit of toughness and didn’t relish the tackling aspect of his role. Not good for a full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 3:39 PM, BP1960 said: Also rumoured we are after Kane Wilson, very highly rated by fans of clubs he's been on loan at . If Tom Hamer is sold I could understand such a move. He was on loan at Exeter for a full season then came back in January the following season. It was noticeable how much more confident he was in the 2nd season and he was a very good right-back and half-decent right midfielder. If Hamer stays then the two of them could work well together, either with Hamer at centre back or Wilson at right midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Superb thank you video for Jonny Smith. #slowlygettingsomethingsright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, TheBigDog said: #slowlygettingsomethingsright A few things do seem to have been better of late. Am I right in thinking this has been achieved while all bit one of the staff are on furlough?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 8 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Superb thank you video for Jonny Smith. #slowlygettingsomethingsright Some cracking goals there. Well done Jonnhy. Hope to see you back next season (some hopes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 19 hours ago, Dave_Og said: A few things do seem to have been better of late. Am I right in thinking this has been achieved while all bit one of the staff are on furlough?! She's been using volunteers whilst the main heads are furloughed. Could be the future, sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: She's been using volunteers whilst the main heads are furloughed. Could be the future, sadly... I hope the club give them some credit at some point. Any idea who they are? fans, college learners or outside companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, underdog said: I hope the club give them some credit at some point. Any idea who they are? fans, college learners or outside companies? Dunno. All very non-league though, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Dunno. All very non-league though, isn't it? I'm not sure what that means but if a club already struggling financially has zero income and zero idea when said income might resume, I'd suggest using volunteers is very sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Worcester Owl said: I'm not sure what that means but if a club already struggling financially has zero income and zero idea when said income might resume, I'd suggest using volunteers is very sensible. Although the hit might not as bad as it could be. We pay around 80% of income on wages -poss even more. We've furloughed everyone, and reportedly everyone is having a 20% pay cut, and lots of players contracts ran out yesterday and just a month to pay. If we hadn't had Covid and furlough, but season tickets hammered as predicted, the situation would be much worse IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Worcester Owl said: I'm not sure what that means but if a club already struggling financially has zero income and zero idea when said income might resume, I'd suggest using volunteers is very sensible. Remind me how much AL is putting in again? You're suggesting it's the square root of fuck all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Remind me how much AL is putting in again? You're suggesting it's the square root of fuck all? No numbers but:- 2 hours ago, underdog said: However I have just seen this on a FB page about our HMRCwind up order being dismissed as paid. Good news if true https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11730/12018777/oldham-winding-up-petition-dismissed-by-judge-after-debt-cleared?fbclid=IwAR3QJBBP62FawTI0jyF8lWFPc-wL06xrHCbxRM7DfGO2UXyqf7WzTs1o7rY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: No numbers but:- So he can fund some things, but not others. Good to know, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, singe said: Although the hit might not as bad as it could be. We pay around 80% of income on wages -poss even more. We've furloughed everyone, and reportedly everyone is having a 20% pay cut, and lots of players contracts ran out yesterday and just a month to pay. If we hadn't had Covid and furlough, but season tickets hammered as predicted, the situation would be much worse IMHO. I don't think it's 80%. Isn't it a maximum of 55% for L2 clubs. The wage cap (if it's approved) would be a budget of £1.9m for L2 clubs. I guess ours isn't that much anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, al_bro said: I don't think it's 80%. Isn't it a maximum of 55% for L2 clubs. The wage cap (if it's approved) would be a budget of £1.9m for L2 clubs. I guess ours isn't that much anyway. That's a point, I think it was changed, but I took it from here, and I know ours was comfortably mid taable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, al_bro said: I don't think it's 80%. Isn't it a maximum of 55% for L2 clubs. The wage cap (if it's approved) would be a budget of £1.9m for L2 clubs. I guess ours isn't that much anyway. The regs are a colander.https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-5---financial-fair-play-regulations/PART 4 – LEAGUE TWO FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY SALARY COST MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL (SCMP) GUIDANCE NOTES 1 SCMP Requirement 1.2.1 50% of the Club’s Relevant Turnover (as defined in Paragraph 1 of Appendix A) for the Reporting Period; plus 1.2.2 100% of the Club’s Football Fortune Income (as defined in Paragraph 2 of Appendix A) for the Reporting Period. Bit more on the various workarounds: http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php Barely worth the paper it is written on it seems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, singe said: The regs are a colander.https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-5---financial-fair-play-regulations/PART 4 – LEAGUE TWO FINANCIAL FAIR PLAY SALARY COST MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL (SCMP) GUIDANCE NOTES 1 SCMP Requirement 1.2.1 50% of the Club’s Relevant Turnover (as defined in Paragraph 1 of Appendix A) for the Reporting Period; plus 1.2.2 100% of the Club’s Football Fortune Income (as defined in Paragraph 2 of Appendix A) for the Reporting Period. Bit more on the various workarounds: http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php Barely worth the paper it is written on it seems! Football Fortune Income. The importance of a good cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 9 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Dunno. All very non-league though, isn't it? The NHS dont think that the idea of using volunteers is below them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Retained list on the official site now. Will update the first post in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crusoe Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 Done. So we’re left with 6 contracted players and 5 more offered 2/3-month extensions. Have to say, McCann is the only one that bothers me much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 7:50 AM, Crusoe said: Here we go again. Squad 1. Gary Woods (2021) 20. Zeus de la Paz - offered short-term extension 29. Tomáš Egert (2020) - offered short-term extension 31. David Wheater (presumably 2021) 34. Tom Hamer (2022) 7. Johan Branger-Engone (2020) - offered short-term extension 10. Mohamed Maouche (2020) - offered short-term extension 17. Christopher Missilou (2020) - offered short-term extension 18. Dylan Fage (2021) 43. Reece Gaskell (scholar) - scholarship extended by six weeks 53. Zac Emmerson (scholar) - rumoured transfer to Brighton 55. Zak Dearnley (2022) 56. Danny Rowe (2021) Departures 2. Zak Mills - released 3. Alex Iacovitti - signed for Ross County 6. Jamie Stott - released 8. Filipe Morais - end of loan 11. Gevaro Nepomuceno - released 15. Javid Swaby-Neavin - released 16. Scott Wilson - released 19. Désiré Sègbè Azankpo - released 21. Marvin Kokos - released 23. Christian N'Guessan - end of loan 24. Mohamad Sylla - signed for Stade Lavallois 25. Chris McCann - released 26. Jonny Smith - end of loan 27. Kielen Adams - released 30. Ryan Pickford - scholar, not offered a contract 33. Carl Piergianni - end of loan 37. Lewis McKinney - scholar, not offered a contract 41. Ellis Allen - signed for APEA Akrotiriou 44. Jack Grundy - scholar, not offered a contract 45. Andy Hackett - scholar, not offered a contract 47. Taylor Jones - scholar, not offered a contract 49. Charley Leech - scholar, not offered a contract 52. Kyle Wych - scholar, not offered a contract 54. Mani Dieseruvwe - end of loan 57. Cameron Borthwick-Jackson - end of loan Just look at that departures list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Crusoe said: Done. So we’re left with 6 contracted players and 5 more offered 2/3-month extensions. Have to say, McCann is the only one that bothers me much. Agree. He’ll have been on a decent wedge as well so not surprised we can’t keep him. I’d have kept Zak Mills as a squad player as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Remind me how much AL is putting in again? You're suggesting it's the square root of fuck all? on record saying £200K per month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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