Lee Sinnott2 83 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 20 hours ago, Dave_Og said: The home side's iFollow commentary at Forest Green last week kept saying Andy Mangan (ex them) was on our coaching staff and they could see his influence. Is he? According to Wiki he's at Bristol Rovers. We could certainly use a defensive coach Yeah, he was in helping out for a few weeks. He has now gone with Barton to Bristol... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Sinnott2 83 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 A lot of people making the excuse for Kewell that he doesn't recruit the players and he has had players "dumped" on him. Didn't he come out in that Trust interview and say he has the final say on all players? Continuity is good, but continuity in 17th place in League Two isn't good enough. And he spouts some nonsense. I would be happy to see him depart... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Og 3,657 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 33 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: A lot of people making the excuse for Kewell that he doesn't recruit the players and he has had players "dumped" on him. Didn't he come out in that Trust interview and say he has the final say on all players? Continuity is good, but continuity in 17th place in League Two isn't good enough. And he spouts some nonsense. I would be happy to see him depart... Imagine who'd apply... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Sinnott2 83 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: Imagine who'd apply... It is a manager's job in the EFL. It would always attract decent applicants... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigDog 1,619 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 47 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Imagine who'd apply... Paul Cook has been out of a job since he resigned fro the Plastics... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Og 3,657 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: It is a manager's job in the EFL. It would always attract decent applicants... Nobody applied last time did they as the owner just appointed Kewell? No reason to think he wouldn't just appoint someone else without going through a considered process. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oafc 123 109 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: It is a manager's job in the EFL. It would always attract decent applicants... It will always attract applicants, I expect the Darren Kelly types though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oafc1955 1,059 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I would definitely give him another season to try and tweak the squad. We have real problems at the back and obviously they must be addressed for next season, however, we have close to, if not the best attack in the division. I haven’t seen anything remotely close since the Joe Royle era and they are an absolute joy to watch at times! Somebody at the club (unless we have been extremely lucky) has a real eye for a player and it could well be Harry! If, and it’s a big if, that level of recruitment can be replicated and we can hold on to the likes of McAleny, Dunn, and Bahamboula we could quite easily smash this division next season. We’ve waited a hell of a long time and haven’t come close to achieving anything for nigh on 30 years. IMO a little continuity and patience is definitely the way to go! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Bosnian 83 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Honestly, the man's been in the job for just over half a season and people are already talking about getting rid & appointing someone else. How did Joe Royle's first 30 games go, or Alex Ferguson at Man United? The expectations on here at times really are ludicrous, stop the merry-go-round and give him at least two seasons to do something, then we can make a more informed decision about whether or not he's up to the job. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Og 3,657 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 24 minutes ago, Barry Bosnian said: Honestly, the man's been in the job for just over half a season and people are already talking about getting rid & appointing someone else. How did Joe Royle's first 30 games go, or Alex Ferguson at Man United? The expectations on here at times really are ludicrous, stop the merry-go-round and give him at least two seasons to do something, then we can make a more informed decision about whether or not he's up to the job. that's the chap. I'm really struggling to believe that after our recent history anyone thinks differently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
League one forever 1,194 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Barry Bosnian said: Honestly, the man's been in the job for just over half a season and people are already talking about getting rid & appointing someone else. How did Joe Royle's first 30 games go, or Alex Ferguson at Man United? The expectations on here at times really are ludicrous, stop the merry-go-round and give him at least two seasons to do something, then we can make a more informed decision about whether or not he's up to the job. The game isn’t what it was Barry. How many clubs keep managers for stability sake, or let them build while they hover around in a lowly position. I accept we change more than most, but the point still stands that the average manager tenure is just over a year. I think we can make an informed decision. Or I’ll put it another way- to improve our position HK is going to need a drastic change in his tactics and team selection. Do you honestly think he will do that? Even if we get a couple of decent centre halves in the summer, I don’t think they will improve us enough with his tactics. However much we dress it up with the attacking side, it’s a results based business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
League one forever 1,194 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: A lot of people making the excuse for Kewell that he doesn't recruit the players and he has had players "dumped" on him. Didn't he come out in that Trust interview and say he has the final say on all players? Continuity is good, but continuity in 17th place in League Two isn't good enough. And he spouts some nonsense. I would be happy to see him depart... This is where I’m at. If we were 11/12th and it was a noticeable improvement in league position from Dino then I’d say he’s worth another season. But we’re not. We are 17th. Again. Edited February 23 by League one forever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
latics22 422 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Change would be madness, we have improved slowly, look at how we started. We have a better calibre of players at least up front a few tweaks and we could fly next season. Things have changed for the worst in football with the sack culture, it hasn't improved things. Plus who is already lined up the youth manager, no thanks sticl with hazza! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlemoor Lad 34 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Kewells already in the news saying its going to be difficult to keep hold of a few of his players, we all know that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56153440 Will he get a chance to see through some of the really good work thus far achieved or will it be yet another start from complete scratch scenario? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
League one forever 1,194 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 17 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Kewells already in the news saying its going to be difficult to keep hold of a few of his players, we all know that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56153440 Will he get a chance to see through some of the really good work thus far achieved or will it be yet another start from complete scratch scenario? Was just going to post the same. People are assuming our better will be here. Which with the exception of Baha who has an option they won’t be. How many two year contracts do we have, to my knowledge it’s one- Dearnley. With or without Kewell the squad will be very different next year. So the stability and building for the future is completely moot. Most of time now it’s a one season shoot out, which is why this season is infuriating, because we had a real chance this year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Og 3,657 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, League one forever said: . I accept we change more than most, but the point still stands that the average manager tenure is just over a year. Which does rather drag the average down! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
League one forever 1,194 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Which does rather drag the average down! There is a big difference between Banny and Kewell Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Og 3,657 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, League one forever said: There is a big difference between Banny and Kewell Dave. Yep, but the last manager who had a full season with us was Johnson. That's just absurd, surely it's time to try a different approach? Edited February 23 by Dave_Og Quote Link to post Share on other sites
League one forever 1,194 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Yep, but the last manager who had a full season with us was John's. That's just absurd, surely it's time to try a different approach? Aye. He should get the season, he at least deserves that. And if we finish top half I’ll change my position and say give him another year. However I think we’ll finish where we are, or maybe a position or two higher and if that proves the case then get rid. (Which I think ALMO will, and they would be correct in doing so IMO) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobledgersheart 634 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 The problem is few decent managers would consent to join us under the current regime so our options are not as open as others. I'm a great believer in giving a person a fair crack at the job and to my mind Kewell deserves at least another 12 months drinking from the poison chalice. How many can reasonably think that anyone could have done a much better job given the circumstances ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Sinnott2 83 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, Bobledgersheart said: The problem is few decent managers would consent to join us under the current regime so our options are not as open as others. I'm a great believer in giving a person a fair crack at the job and to my mind Kewell deserves at least another 12 months drinking from the poison chalice. How many can reasonably think that anyone could have done a much better job given the circumstances ? The CEO of the club thinks we have a top 10 squad. We are currently 17th: I don't think that will go down very well with the powers that be... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oafc1955 1,059 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) I prefer the away day experiences which I have missed tremendously and once we are back to near normality, supporting a Harry Kewell team away from home would be a massive step up from previous seasons and infinitely better than anything I’ve witnessed over the last few years!! At this moment in time, holding on to Harry and our better performers from this squad is an absolute no brainer for me. Edited February 23 by oafc1955 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deyres42 2,188 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 58 minutes ago, League one forever said: Aye. He should get the season, he at least deserves that. And if we finish top half I’ll change my position and say give him another year. However I think we’ll finish where we are, or maybe a position or two higher and if that proves the case then get rid. (Which I think ALMO will, and they would be correct in doing so IMO) What if we finish 14th but 2 points away from 11th? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobledgersheart 634 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 45 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: The CEO of the club thinks we have a top 10 squad. We are currently 17th: I don't think that will go down very well with the powers that be... Not really bothered what they think, it's my club and my opinion !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
League one forever 1,194 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, deyres42 said: What if we finish 14th but 2 points away from 11th? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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