LightDN123 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Not sure about anyone else but I actually can’t be arsed changing manager. Says it all when I see sticking with a manger who is doing shite as a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Not sure about anyone else but I actually can’t be arsed changing manager. Says it all when I see sticking with a manger who is doing shite as a positive. Aye. A new low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Of course. But how many games have we won in that fashion in the last ten years? It’s a handful a season- if that. With the majority being beat or hammered. You can’t beat winning. However it comes. Well as I'm yet to see us win a league game this season I'd agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 hours ago, League one forever said: Kewell has had Bam Mac Zac and Rowe. Who have all scored more collectively than Lang and Surridge. Bunn- (who I know you don’t rate) had us 10+ plus places higher in league and got sacked. It seems if you play attractive but losing football (kewell and wellens) you get longer in the job than those that play pragmatic winning football. I don't see it as attractive football when the ball is constantly being given away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, BP1960 said: I don't see it as attractive football when the ball is constantly being given away. We can't counter attack unless the opposition have most of the ball. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 5 hours ago, League one forever said: Bunn- (who I know you don’t rate) had us 10+ plus places higher in league and got sacked. We were 12th when Bunn was sacked, currently 17th with Kewell. Not a massive difference and the Lemsagams have had 2+ extra years to do their damage to the club. Don't get me wrong, I'd have happily kept Bunn at that stage because I thought he was doing a decent job all things considered. Of course Wild did an excellent job in similar circumstances. 2+ years and we're on our 5th different head coach since Bunn. Wild is the only one who has done better than him since then, although I believe that Kewell and Dino aren't significantly worse. But a 20% chance that we'll hire an obviously better head coach is why I'd prefer it if we keep Kewell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: We can't counter attack unless the opposition have most of the ball. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamAthlete Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: We can't counter attack unless the opposition have most of the ball. Duh! So the more we give the ball away the better chance of hitting them on the counter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, OldhamAthlete said: So the more we give the ball away the better chance of hitting them on the counter? Works for Mourinho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: We were 12th when Bunn was sacked, currently 17th with Kewell. Not a massive difference and the Lemsagams have had 2+ extra years to do their damage to the club. Don't get me wrong, I'd have happily kept Bunn at that stage because I thought he was doing a decent job all things considered. Of course Wild did an excellent job in similar circumstances. 2+ years and we're on our 5th different head coach since Bunn. Wild is the only one who has done better than him since then, although I believe that Kewell and Dino aren't significantly worse. But a 20% chance that we'll hire an obviously better head coach is why I'd prefer it if we keep Kewell. It’s not just league placement Bosh. It’s his bizarre statements about conceding goals. His over rotation, his clever for being clever sake. It was refreshing for a while to see loads of goals. (Whilst still mainly losing.) Now it’s just annoying. The argument of who replaces him is valid to a point, but that’s more about ALMO’s woeful or non existent recruitment. It also shouldn’t mask the fact that we haven’t taken a single point at home from sides in the bottom half. That is abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, League one forever said: It’s not just league placement Bosh. It’s his bizarre statements about conceding goals. His over rotation, his clever for being clever sake. It was refreshing for a while to see loads of goals. (Whilst still mainly losing.) Now it’s just annoying. The argument of who replaces him is valid to a point, but that’s more about ALMO’s woeful or non existent recruitment. It also shouldn’t mask the fact that we haven’t taken a single point at home from sides in the bottom half. That is abysmal. Yeah that's a fair point. He needs to do reasonably well between now and the end of the season, hopefully showing that the team is progressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: Yeah that's a fair point. He needs to do reasonably well between now and the end of the season, hopefully showing that the team is progressing. Also - Kewell has to progress as a manager. I give him credit for trying to stick to a style of play that he believes in. However, by now he should have realised that he needs to modify his approach if he wants success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Also - Kewell has to progress as a manager. I give him credit for trying to stick to a style of play that he believes in. However, by now he should have realised that he needs to modify his approach if he wants success. How do you define success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: How do you define success? Improving year on year would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, deyres42 said: How do you define success? Can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 hours ago, OldhamAthlete said: So the more we give the ball away the better chance of hitting them on the counter? Mr Kewell has a clipboard with your name on it! This way sir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: How do you define success? Getting us back to our spiritual home (*) * League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Getting us back to our spiritual home (*) * League 1 In reality, we should never have left it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 8 hours ago, League one forever said: Of course. But how many games have we won in that fashion in the last ten years? It’s a handful a season- if that. With the majority being beat or hammered. You can’t beat winning. However it comes. I suppose the point is lose 1-0 playing dross boring defensive football. Or lose 3-4 playing exciting end to end, I think most if not all prefer the later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, latics22 said: I suppose the point is lose 1-0 playing dross boring defensive football. Or lose 3-4 playing exciting end to end, I think most if not all prefer the later. Sadly, both get you relegated We need to be boring as hell and winning 1-0 by any means possible, I hate this losing malarkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, latics22 said: I suppose the point is lose 1-0 playing dross boring defensive football. Or lose 3-4 playing exciting end to end, I think most if not all prefer the later. If the point of football is just to entertain without any importance on the result. Then yes- give me a 4-3 over 1-0 defeat any day of the week. But. Results do matter, and losing football however entertaining, is still losing losing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 50 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Sadly, both get you relegated We need to be boring as hell and winning 1-0 by any means possible, I hate this losing malarkey Spot on. I don’t care how wins come. I just want to win more than we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 6 hours ago, League one forever said: Spot on. I don’t care how wins come. I just want to win more than we lose. Saturday's massive, lose this one and we'll be looking over our shoulders for the remainder of this weird season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 hours ago, League one forever said: If the point of football is just to entertain without any importance on the result. Then yes- give me a 4-3 over 1-0 defeat any day of the week. But. Results do matter, and losing football however entertaining, is still losing losing football. I obviously would rather win, with a dull 1-0. But we're used to losing to a boring 1-0 loss, hence why I prefer lose 4-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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