peanuts2 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: D) During the infamous fans meeting back last October his accountant openly told us all that he told Abdallah not to buy the club due to the state it was in. He didn't listen, why didn't he listen? He wasn't duped at all he was too lazy to spend time getting a true grasp of what owning a football club and particularly this one was all about. basicly we are his midlife crisis sports car you know the one that sexy little blue open top 2 seater youve always promised yourself since you were 15 and now youve got the money and your blinded to all the flaws and faults its riddled with so what if the horn dont work and the brakes are a bit ropey you can throw a bit of cash it and get it restored to its shiney as new look . no matter how often your mates tell you dont touch it you go and buy it and guess what its knackered and going to cost you thousands to get someone to restore it properly for you but its ok your brothers a mechanic and says he will have a go . three years down the line its still a money pit sat in the garage in bits youve tried getting trading standards in to sue the previous owner but its buyer beware and they laugh at you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, peanuts2 said: basicly we are his midlife crisis sports car you know the one that sexy little blue open top 2 seater youve always promised yourself since you were 15 and now youve got the money and your blinded to all the flaws and faults its riddled with so what if the horn dont work and the brakes are a bit ropey you can throw a bit of cash it and get it restored to its shiney as new look . no matter how often your mates tell you dont touch it you go and buy it and guess what its knackered and going to cost you thousands to get someone to restore it properly for you but its ok your brothers a mechanic and says he will have a go . three years down the line its still a money pit sat in the garage in bits youve tried getting trading standards in to sue the previous owner but its buyer beware and they laugh at you . A fool and his money. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, singe said: He's not put as much in as he would have you beleive. How was he duped? That is absolutely ridiculous. He stated exactly what he was buying in his Press Conference when he was unveiled. He paid for what he could afford. a) He was swanning around the place, freely, for months before the takevover. You'd expect an Agent to be able to read and understand a contract. He's been around for 3 years now. b) He has a very expensive, high profile lawyer do his due dilligence. And then put the same lawyer on the Board of Directors. c) He was easily presuaded he had cast iron proof, to the point of reporting to the police by an ex policeman, of wrongdoings re North Stand, only for it go vanish into thin air If he has been mugged off, perhaps he only has to look around the table during a Board meeting. You're a harsh man. Corney could hoodwink the best. We'll never agree and if Al got us up twice you'd still want him out. He'll go when he's ready and without him we'd be Bury right now. Sometimes we have to acknowledge begrudgingly. The difference as I see it, I call his faults and acknowledge his help. Plenty don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, Lags said: You're a harsh man. Corney could hoodwink the best. We'll never agree and if Al got us up twice you'd still want him out. He'll go when he's ready and without him we'd be Bury right now. Sometimes we have to acknowledge begrudgingly. The difference as I see it, I call his faults and acknowledge his help. Plenty don't. The club was effectively for sale from the summer of 2010 when Blitz and Gazal "cut ties" as the article on the official site said at the time. We were sold to AL officially at the beginning of 2018. In that 7.5 year period where I don't know exactly the number but Im guessing had a number of people come forward to look at buying the club Why weren't they hoodwinked by Corney? It was common knowledge to all of us that the Land was separated from the club. A quick look at the Balance Sheet would have shown him this. If Corney had included the land in the Balance sheet when it wasn't he would now be in prison because its blatant fraud. You are giving him far too much credit he wasn't hoodwinked he was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: The club was effectively for sale from the summer of 2010 when Blitz and Gazal "cut ties" as the article on the official site said at the time. We were sold to AL officially at the beginning of 2018. In that 7.5 year period where I don't know exactly the number but Im guessing had a number of people come forward to look at buying the club Why weren't they hoodwinked by Corney? It was common knowledge to all of us that the Land was separated from the club. A quick look at the Balance Sheet would have shown him this. If Corney had included the land in the Balance sheet when it wasn't he would now be in prison because its blatant fraud. You are giving him far too much credit he wasn't hoodwinked he was stupid. OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Lags said: if Al got us up twice you'd still want him out. Well that's never going to be put to the test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: Well that's never going to be put to the test More than likely. There again, who else has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworth blue Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lags said: More than likely. There again, who else has. Jimmy Frizzell in 1971 and 1974. I started going in 1970, have seen 3 promotions but 2 in first 4 years, thought it was great (it was), would love younger fans to enjoy at least one promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, unsworth blue said: Jimmy Frizzell in 1971 and 1974. I started going in 1970, have seen 3 promotions but 2 in first 4 years, thought it was great (it was), would love younger fans to enjoy at least one promotion Wouldn't we all.... I've been going for the last 28 years watching us gradually get shitter and shitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 12 hours ago, unsworth blue said: Jimmy Frizzell in 1971 and 1974. I started going in 1970, have seen 3 promotions but 2 in first 4 years, thought it was great (it was), would love younger fans to enjoy at least one promotion Be careful, Bury fans thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 12 hours ago, oafc 123 said: Wouldn't we all.... I've been going for the last 28 years watching us gradually get shitter and shitter. Agreed, puts Al's 3 years into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Be careful, Bury fans thought that. So too did Northampton and Crewe fans have Northampton even finished that stand yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: So too did Northampton and Crewe fans have Northampton even finished that stand yet? Northampton Town stand loan: £500k deal 'close' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-52977873 As as soon as they find that missing £10m... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Northampton Town stand loan: £500k deal 'close' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-52977873 As as soon as they find that missing £10m... So even with that shit in the background regarding their stadium and in particularly around the ownership and cost of one stand, they got their act together on the football side of things and got promoted. Its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworth blue Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Be careful, Bury fans thought that. My other half is a Bury Fan BP, they have had promotions and relegations in equal measure since around 1990. The club had 2 rogue owners, the previous one who left in around December 2018 having wildly overspent for 6 years to get Bury to the promised land of the Championship and the current owner Steve Dale who paid £1 for the club (shades of AL) and is still sitting there whilst the club has rotted and been expelled from league one. Bury overspent wildly for 6 years and were rewarded with 2 relegations and 2 promotions - the last 2 with players on mad sums of money the club could ill afford Promotion does not have to be achieved by such extremities, well run clubs can achieve them with stability, good recruitment and sensible planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, unsworth blue said: My other half is a Bury Fan BP, they have had promotions and relegations in equal measure since around 1990. The club had 2 rogue owners, the previous one who left in around December 2018 having wildly overspent for 6 years to get Bury to the promised land of the Championship and the current owner Steve Dale who paid £1 for the club (shades of AL) and is still sitting there whilst the club has rotted and been expelled from league one. Bury overspent wildly for 6 years and were rewarded with 2 relegations and 2 promotions - the last 2 with players on mad sums of money the club could ill afford Promotion does not have to be achieved by such extremities, well run clubs can achieve them with stability, good recruitment and sensible planning. The last paragraph says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Lags said: Agreed, puts Al's 3 years into perspective. True but Al's 3 years have been the icing on the cake for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Dunn scored against Accrington today I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 19 hours ago, Lags said: You're a harsh man. Corney could hoodwink the best. We'll never agree and if Al got us up twice you'd still want him out. He'll go when he's ready and without him we'd be Bury right now. Sometimes we have to acknowledge begrudgingly. The difference as I see it, I call his faults and acknowledge his help. Plenty don't. Bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLYOWD Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, oafc 123 said: True but Al's 3 years have been the icing on the cake for me. The icing was just more shit and some fucker had already eaten most of the cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 20 hours ago, League one forever said: A fool and his money. . Will also apply to the next owner unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: Bollocks Corney had no money, just mounting debt. So your bollocks is double bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lags said: Corney had no money, just mounting debt. So your bollocks is double bollocks. He had enough money to keep us in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: He had enough money to keep us in league 1. By robbing Peter to pay Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, al_bro said: By robbing Peter to pay Paul. We don't know where AL is getting his money yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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