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Who Do You Hold Responsible For The Closure Of The Joe Royle Stand?


Who do you hold responsible for the closure of the Joe Royle Stand?  

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  1. 1. Who do you hold responsible for the closure of the Joe Royle Stand?

    • Blitz
      6
    • Lemsagam
      61
    • Both
      41

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3 hours ago, PeteG said:

Did it close at 1pm? I always thought it was open up to kick off time, but i could be wrong. What did the people do for 2 hours if they were closed at 1pm? 

They would take their seats in the Joe Royle stand and soak up the pre-match atmosphere!!

 

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1 hour ago, PeteG said:

Maybe cash is short for the OEC and they haven't got it so therefore the work hasn't been done?? It must be tough for any company at the moment especially in events and hospitality after all one of the main person involved in the running of the OEC has just been issued a CCJ for £3700

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4 minutes ago, boshell4eng said:

You joined yesterday and this is the only thread you have any interest in after all these years of owtb? 

Indeed, you have to start somewhere and reading this and the fact so many people believe it's just to do with a few chained fire doors spurred me on

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2 hours ago, PeteG said:

Maybe cash is short for the OEC and they haven't got it so therefore the work hasn't been done?? It must be tough for any company at the moment especially in events and hospitality after all one of the main person involved in the running of the OEC has just been issued a CCJ for £3700

It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility.

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38 minutes ago, PeteG said:

Indeed, you have to start somewhere and reading this and the fact so many people believe it's just to do with a few chained fire doors spurred me on

And you just happened to accidentally pay the £8 each time to search the CCJ's on all of them, or some other reason?

 

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3 minutes ago, al_bro said:

It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility.

Exactly. I differ sligtly from you, in that I'm dubious it's entirely Blitz, but I'm far more sure it's not OEC.

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3 hours ago, PeteG said:

Maybe cash is short for the OEC and they haven't got it so therefore the work hasn't been done?? It must be tough for any company at the moment especially in events and hospitality after all one of the main person involved in the running of the OEC has just been issued a CCJ for £3700

OEC contacts know nothing of any CCJ.

Care to elaborate Mr Gladwin?

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27 minutes ago, al_bro said:

It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility.

Surely it would be the OEC as the cctv is required in there? Mind you OEC is Blitz isn't it, i'm not aware of any change of ownership but could be wrong

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26 minutes ago, singe said:

And you just happened to accidentally pay the £8 each time to search the CCJ's on all of them, or some other reason?

 

I didn't pay anything or search anybody, it was actually sent to me and i don't know anyone called Gladwin??

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28 minutes ago, al_bro said:

It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility.

 

24 minutes ago, singe said:

Exactly. I differ sligtly from you, in that I'm dubious it's entirely Blitz, but I'm far more sure it's not OEC.

 

Just now, PeteG said:

Surely it would be the OEC as the cctv is required in there? Mind you OEC is Blitz isn't it, i'm not aware of any change of ownership but could be wrong

Oldham Event Centre (OEC) listed at Companies House has three directors and of those, two persons have  ‘Significant control’ - they are Simon Blitz and Daniel Gazal. 

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5 minutes ago, PeteG said:

Surely it would be the OEC as the cctv is required in there? Mind you OEC is Blitz isn't it, i'm not aware of any change of ownership but could be wrong

No. the OEC is run by the FLG who I presume pay rent to Brassbank.

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This thread sums it up.... we don't fully understand who owns what and who is responsible for what so when it comes to blame, I blame the lot of them as its a total shambles and they're incapable of acting like grown ups and sorting it out. 

 

As far as I am concerned none of them have the best interests of our club at heart

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9 hours ago, PeteG said:

Interesting thread this and the fact people are thinking that the Council closed the stand because a couple of doors were locked that shouldn't have been. My understanding of event safety is that there must be real time CCTV relayed to the control box ie. The police box in the corner of the RRE and i would have thought that this applies to all publicly accessible areas of the NS. Has this been done? Who know's. Also there would need to be some kind of control on who enters the NS or the OEC which has access to the NS during the event. I believe the club tried to implement an element of control around Christmas time by asking for tickets on entering the fans bar but was met with objections from the OEC who went on public record to say everyone is welcome with or without ticket. I wouldn't have thought this went down well with SAG. The club hold the safety certificate so are responsible that all requirements are met during the event but wouldn't mean they are responsible for making sure that the jobs are completed as the lease as far as i can ascertain only covers the seats and not the whole stand unlike other areas of the ground. If the OEC really wanted to get the stand open they would have the jobs completed and comply with the club in making sure they know who is the stand and therefore complying with the safety certificate. God forbid there was a disaster, it wouldn't be the directors of the OEC in the dock it would be the directors of the football club so i can see why they have to comply with safety organisations.

 

Absolutely nailed.

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8 hours ago, PeteG said:

As i said, i was of the understanding the club tried to implement some kind of security measures but were knocked back by the OEC. This is only one issue though, has the CCTV in all publicly accessible areas been fitted so it is relayed back to the control box?? I saw Simon Brooke say on social media that all works had been completed but if so have they informed the club and the council because when i asked neither party were aware??

 

Not gonna be popular...but you've been nearer reality.

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