PeteG Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, singe said: Why? Because someone has a different opinion to you and has stated a few facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, PeteG said: Did it close at 1pm? I always thought it was open up to kick off time, but i could be wrong. What did the people do for 2 hours if they were closed at 1pm? They would take their seats in the Joe Royle stand and soak up the pre-match atmosphere!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, PeteG said: Maybe cash is short for the OEC and they haven't got it so therefore the work hasn't been done?? It must be tough for any company at the moment especially in events and hospitality after all one of the main person involved in the running of the OEC has just been issued a CCJ for £3700 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, PeteG said: Why? Because someone has a different opinion to you and has stated a few facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshell4eng Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, PeteG said: Why? Because someone has a different opinion to you and has stated a few facts. You joined yesterday and this is the only thread you have any interest in after all these years of owtb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, boshell4eng said: You joined yesterday and this is the only thread you have any interest in after all these years of owtb? Indeed, you have to start somewhere and reading this and the fact so many people believe it's just to do with a few chained fire doors spurred me on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owdumer Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, PeteG said: Indeed, you have to start somewhere and reading this and the fact so many people believe it's just to do with a few chained fire doors spurred me on Colour me sceptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, PeteG said: Maybe cash is short for the OEC and they haven't got it so therefore the work hasn't been done?? It must be tough for any company at the moment especially in events and hospitality after all one of the main person involved in the running of the OEC has just been issued a CCJ for £3700 It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, PeteG said: Indeed, you have to start somewhere and reading this and the fact so many people believe it's just to do with a few chained fire doors spurred me on And you just happened to accidentally pay the £8 each time to search the CCJ's on all of them, or some other reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, al_bro said: It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility. Exactly. I differ sligtly from you, in that I'm dubious it's entirely Blitz, but I'm far more sure it's not OEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, PeteG said: Maybe cash is short for the OEC and they haven't got it so therefore the work hasn't been done?? It must be tough for any company at the moment especially in events and hospitality after all one of the main person involved in the running of the OEC has just been issued a CCJ for £3700 OEC contacts know nothing of any CCJ. Care to elaborate Mr Gladwin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, al_bro said: It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility. Surely it would be the OEC as the cctv is required in there? Mind you OEC is Blitz isn't it, i'm not aware of any change of ownership but could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, singe said: And you just happened to accidentally pay the £8 each time to search the CCJ's on all of them, or some other reason? I didn't pay anything or search anybody, it was actually sent to me and i don't know anyone called Gladwin?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, al_bro said: It wouldn't be the OEC to pay would it? Surely Brassbank are responsible and Blitz isn't short of cash. If it's not the club's responsibility. 24 minutes ago, singe said: Exactly. I differ sligtly from you, in that I'm dubious it's entirely Blitz, but I'm far more sure it's not OEC. Just now, PeteG said: Surely it would be the OEC as the cctv is required in there? Mind you OEC is Blitz isn't it, i'm not aware of any change of ownership but could be wrong Oldham Event Centre (OEC) listed at Companies House has three directors and of those, two persons have ‘Significant control’ - they are Simon Blitz and Daniel Gazal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, PeteG said: Surely it would be the OEC as the cctv is required in there? Mind you OEC is Blitz isn't it, i'm not aware of any change of ownership but could be wrong No. the OEC is run by the FLG who I presume pay rent to Brassbank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Oldham Event Centre (OEC) listed at Companies House has three directors and of those, two persons have ‘Significant control’ - they are Simon Blitz and Daniel Gazal. See @al_bro post. FLG operate OEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, singe said: See @al_bro post. FLG operate OEC. They manage it but they don’t own it or the North Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: They manage it but they don’t own it or the North Stand. No, but generally everyone refers OEC as FLG, and Blitz as Brassbank, for ease don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 This thread sums it up.... we don't fully understand who owns what and who is responsible for what so when it comes to blame, I blame the lot of them as its a total shambles and they're incapable of acting like grown ups and sorting it out. As far as I am concerned none of them have the best interests of our club at heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, PeteG said: I didn't pay anything or search anybody, it was actually sent to me and i don't know anyone called Gladwin?? How's Kev's health holding up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Starting to get an idea of what the content of this week’s statement will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Starting to get an idea of what the content of this week’s statement will be. Play. Game. The. Blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 hours ago, PeteG said: Interesting thread this and the fact people are thinking that the Council closed the stand because a couple of doors were locked that shouldn't have been. My understanding of event safety is that there must be real time CCTV relayed to the control box ie. The police box in the corner of the RRE and i would have thought that this applies to all publicly accessible areas of the NS. Has this been done? Who know's. Also there would need to be some kind of control on who enters the NS or the OEC which has access to the NS during the event. I believe the club tried to implement an element of control around Christmas time by asking for tickets on entering the fans bar but was met with objections from the OEC who went on public record to say everyone is welcome with or without ticket. I wouldn't have thought this went down well with SAG. The club hold the safety certificate so are responsible that all requirements are met during the event but wouldn't mean they are responsible for making sure that the jobs are completed as the lease as far as i can ascertain only covers the seats and not the whole stand unlike other areas of the ground. If the OEC really wanted to get the stand open they would have the jobs completed and comply with the club in making sure they know who is the stand and therefore complying with the safety certificate. God forbid there was a disaster, it wouldn't be the directors of the OEC in the dock it would be the directors of the football club so i can see why they have to comply with safety organisations. Absolutely nailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 8 hours ago, PeteG said: As i said, i was of the understanding the club tried to implement some kind of security measures but were knocked back by the OEC. This is only one issue though, has the CCTV in all publicly accessible areas been fitted so it is relayed back to the control box?? I saw Simon Brooke say on social media that all works had been completed but if so have they informed the club and the council because when i asked neither party were aware?? Not gonna be popular...but you've been nearer reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 What makes me laugh it’s peoples absolute entrenched position when they don’t really have a clue. Their truth is just assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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