whittles left foot Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, boshell4eng said: I have read them and questioned that it appeared strange for him to join owtb yesterday after all these years and this is the only topic he has commented on. We all had to start somewhere. What is strange about someone joining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworth blue Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I am completely cheesed off with the seeming paralysis of what i see is a reasonably trivial matter given the potential cost of rectification of Health & safety issues whoever ends up bearing the cost. My only concerns are 1. The effect closing the North Stand on matchdays has on an already increasingly disillusioned support base 2. The seeming lack of progress at conciliation between the parties to date in resolving the issue(s) doesn't fill us the supporters with much confidence about the potential for Abdallah to complete his purchase of the ground from Brassbank - if that is what has been agreed when Administration was avoided. Just get it sorted either way, do the repairs or whatever and open the North Stand to fans OR close the North Stand permanently for OAFC and let us all get on with the rest of our lives without being drawn into constant bickering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshell4eng Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: We all had to start somewhere. What is strange about someone joining? It isn’t the fact they have joined. It’s the timing of joining and then only commenting on one topic from the many on here and seemingly having very detailed knowledge of that topic. It’s almost like they have purely joined to post that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, unsworth blue said: I am completely cheesed off with the seeming paralysis of what i see is a reasonably trivial matter given the potential cost of rectification of Health & safety issues whoever ends up bearing the cost. My only concerns are 1. The effect closing the North Stand on matchdays has on an already increasingly disillusioned support base 2. The seeming lack of progress at conciliation between the parties to date in resolving the issue(s) doesn't fill us the supporters with much confidence about the potential for Abdallah to complete his purchase of the ground from Brassbank - if that is what has been agreed when Administration was avoided. Just get it sorted either way, do the repairs or whatever and open the North Stand to fans OR close the North Stand permanently for OAFC and let us all get on with the rest of our lives without being drawn into constant bickering I totally agree. It will be a big failure if this isn't resolved for when crowds can return. I just wonder in who's best interest is it for that to succeed or fail in the parties involved. I really want to see it succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: We all had to start somewhere. What is strange about someone joining? Who else knows about the CCJ, that is nothing to do with the FLG/OEC? Just the same pattern as the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, boshell4eng said: It isn’t the fact they have joined. It’s the timing of joining and then only commenting on one topic from the many on here and seemingly having very detailed knowledge of that topic. It’s almost like they have purely joined to post that. Or is it that they have presented a contrarian opinion, one you and another don't seem to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 From a usually ITK source on twitter: Don't forget that the club "expects to issue a detailed statement" about the closure of the Joe Royle stand by the end of this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 8 hours ago, LaticMark said: From a usually ITK source on twitter: Don't forget that the club "expects to issue a detailed statement" about the closure of the Joe Royle stand by the end of this week. This particular Twitter account is usually correct with his/her information - so this, if true, puts the onus firmly back on the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Club may have bigger ground-related priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I think we should be grateful that Abdallah, Mo and Barry have the safety of true Oldham fans as their top priority. Doesn't bare thinking about that all those past seasons when the OEC was open these problems were causing such risk to lives. As the rest of the ground shows, safety is their number one priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Club may have bigger ground-related priorities. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, League one forever said: ? Well they're hoping to play at BP on Saturday, but as things stand I don't believe they have the right approvals to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Well they're hoping to play at BP on Saturday, but as things stand I don't believe they have the right approvals to do so. From who? Council? SAG? Owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: From who? Council? SAG? Owners? The ITK source on Twitter says the North Stand was signed off fine by the SAG yesterday so god knows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: From who? Council? SAG? Owners? SAG. Relating to Covid provisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 13 hours ago, LaticMark said: From a usually ITK source on twitter: Don't forget that the club "expects to issue a detailed statement" about the closure of the Joe Royle stand by the end of this week. I've seen his posts and whilst he gets somethings right he's not always correct, i know for a fact he's way off the mark with a particular player he's touted as being on his way and i also know he's wrong on this as the CCTV issue hasn't been rectified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, PeteG said: I've seen his posts and whilst he gets somethings right he's not always correct, i know for a fact he's way off the mark with a particular player he's touted as being on his way and i also know he's wrong on this as the CCTV issue hasn't been rectified Who is responsible for it and why hasnt the CCTV been rectified then? It's a a quick, cheap and simple job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, BP1960 said: Who is responsible for it and why hasnt the CCTV issue been rectified then? It's a a quick, cheap and simple job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, BP1960 said: I believe the OEC are responsible, i don't know whether it is a quick, cheap and simple job it's not my line of work but i'd imagine there is a fair amount of cable to run to the control box and i have been involved in numerous large scale events and i know that cctv needs to be relayed to whoever is in control of the event ie. police, stewards etc. Also the cctv needs to be in all areas that are accessible by the public. I think this is where people get confused and say the NS is safe Monday - Friday, it is i don't doubt for one moment the stand is safe but it needs to comply with different regulations for a football match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, PeteG said: I believe the OEC are responsible, i don't know whether it is a quick, cheap and simple job it's not my line of work but i'd imagine there is a fair amount of cable to run to the control box and i have been involved in numerous large scale events and i know that cctv needs to be relayed to whoever is in control of the event ie. police, stewards etc. Also the cctv needs to be in all areas that are accessible by the public. I think this is where people get confused and say the NS is safe Monday - Friday, it is i don't doubt for one moment the stand is safe but it needs to comply with different regulations for a football match Presumably there was an inspection prior to the thing originally opening, was it not flagged up or noticed then? Have rules changed in the meantime? The other three stands have it but this new build doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Presumably there was an inspection prior to the thing originally opening, was it not flagged up or noticed then? Have rules changed in the meantime? The other three stands have it but this new build doesn't? I don't know, i know the other 3 stands have cctv. Perhaps the NS has cctv but not in the fans bar that is relayed to the control box and wasn't an issue when there wasn't a fans bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, PeteG said: I've seen his posts and whilst he gets somethings right he's not always correct, i know for a fact he's way off the mark with a particular player he's touted as being on his way and i also know he's wrong on this as the CCTV issue hasn't been rectified What makes you think your source is any more accurate than his/hers? Unless of course you are the source Experience of large scale events... hmmm like most ex Superintendents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, PeteG said: I don't know, i know the other 3 stands have cctv. Perhaps the NS has cctv but not in the fans bar that is relayed to the control box and wasn't an issue when there wasn't a fans bar? So if the OEC are responsible it's not AL holding up the opening of the stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, PeteG said: I don't know, i know the other 3 stands have cctv. Perhaps the NS has cctv but not in the fans bar that is relayed to the control box and wasn't an issue when there wasn't a fans bar? You seem to know an awful lot and nothing at the same time. It’s almost as though you’re choosing what you do know to suit your argument. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: What makes you think your source is any more accurate than his/hers? Unless of course you are the source Experience of large scale events... hmmm like most ex Superintendents I just know that one of the players he's touted as arriving is not! No i've never been in the police force but yes, i've experience of events involving crowds as member of other emergencies services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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