GlossopLatic Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, al_bro said: They were asking the other day, why they should hand over money to clubs like Birmingham and Exeter, which have raked in £30m. and £4m. in one transfer fee. The EFL clubs replied that the clubs concerned had developed those players and shouldn't be penalised for it. Some clubs like Bolton are paying big wages, whilst others are run well like Accrington and Rochdale. I guess it would be up to the EFL how much each club got, but whatever happens clubs will say it's not fare on them. That's if they even get money from the PL or the Government. It comes down to the fact that if you give the 48 chairman of the 48 league 1 and 2 clubs a £1 million each they will find 48 different ways to spend it. I suppose any government funding will or atleast should be focused on saving peoples livelihoods any funding from the FA should be directed at saving the game at grass roots level i.e. youth development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, GlossopLatic said: I suppose any government funding will or atleast should be focused on saving peoples livelihoods any funding from the FA should be directed at saving the game at grass roots level i.e. youth development. If there are a couple of dozen fewer professional clubs there'll be much less need to develop youth players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Summed us up nicely tbf “mere survival is triumph enough for them” is a quote about Latics from the book ‘WHO ARE YA?’ written by Kevin Day 3 pages on us, funny stuff, landed today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: If there are a couple of dozen fewer professional clubs there'll be much less need to develop youth players... Apart from the benefits to society. But that's an issue that goes beyond football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: If there are a couple of dozen fewer professional clubs there'll be much less need to develop youth players... Well it will it will be detrimental to the game in this country if we have a dozen or so less clubs especially when you consider how many people will be involved in the centres of excellence/academies and how many players will get produced. Plus the work those clubs do in their communities. Not saying that will convince them to bail them out but it should certainly be one of the main arguments for. The argument against will be that we will be faced with a huge number of sacrifices in the coming years (the furlough scheme money didn't appear out of thin air) and that lower league football clubs might be seen as something that gets sacrificed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Monty Burns said: Go where? The area is saturated w clubs as it is.. Agadir Athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, GlossopLatic said: Well it will it will be detrimental to the game in this country if we have a dozen or so less clubs especially when you consider how many people will be involved in the centres of excellence/academies and how many players will get produced. Plus the work those clubs do in their communities. Not saying that will convince them to bail them out but it should certainly be one of the main arguments for. The argument against will be that we will be faced with a huge number of sacrifices in the coming years (the furlough scheme money didn't appear out of thin air) and that lower league football clubs might be seen as something that gets sacrificed. We might finish up like Germany with a couple of leagues then the rest regional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 If elite football neglects the pyramid then it's in danger of a long-term decline in the game as a whole. Football in the UK has very long traditional community roots. This is how the game is structured. Cut the roots and you'll have people drifting away from the game (supporters, not just players). People will become less connected. Football has an incredible emotional grip on the communities built around the clubs at all levels. If the PL doesn't protect the roots, it will sow the seeds of it's own decline. There needs to be reform at the lower levels, but the health of the game needs the entire pyramid to support the top. This is about maintaining generations of supporters who'll watch their own team but tune in to watch PL, CL and internationals. Very short-sighted if the top doesn't help the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, rudemedic said: Apart from the benefits to society. But that's an issue that goes beyond football. That's grass roots football, not youth development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 4:56 AM, GlossopLatic said: So pretty much where we were at with Corney circa 2010-2018 who at the time was putting the club up for sale for way beyond its value and putting buyers off with an overinflated price and was only paying bills if people took him to court or we were under embargo where he would beg steal or borrow and pay up. But either way neither properly funded the football club. I think we are in a much more precarious position than some people realise. Eh??? At what point did Corney over value the club? You’ve literally just made that up. Over value what?? A badge? The only person in corneys entire tenure who gave us a sniff was Vaughan. AL - according to Adam at PTB has had two firm offers. When did Corney ever have that? Furthermore, we haven’t been under embargo under AL neither have we had reports of scouse loans. Corney and AL are very different. Corney begged, stole and borrowed to put some sort of decent side out- and It could be said he risked the future of the football team to do so. AL isn’t arsed about the football team and how well it does, but enjoys owning the ‘club.’ That’s why he turns offers down- because he loves owning the club. Corney- for his faults was about the team doing as well as it could on what he afford or borrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, League one forever said: Eh??? At what point did Corney over value the club? You’ve literally just made that up. Over value what?? A badge? The only person in corneys entire tenure who gave us a sniff was Vaughan. AL - according to Adam at PTB has had two firm offers. When did Corney ever have that? Furthermore, we haven’t been under embargo under AL neither have we had reports of scouse loans. Corney and AL are very different. Corney begged, stole and borrowed to put some sort of decent side out- and It could be said he risked the future of the football team to do so. AL isn’t arsed about the football team and how well it does, but enjoys owning the ‘club.’ That’s why he turns offers down- because he loves owning the club. Corney- for his faults was about the team doing as well as it could on what he afford or borrow. If you can't ever remember cornet over valuing the club and deals to sell the club collapsing for this very reason, then I suggest you visit your GP urgently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 hours ago, League one forever said: Eh??? At what point did Corney over value the club? You’ve literally just made that up. Over value what?? A badge? The only person in corneys entire tenure who gave us a sniff was Vaughan. AL - according to Adam at PTB has had two firm offers. When did Corney ever have that? Furthermore, we haven’t been under embargo under AL neither have we had reports of scouse loans. Corney and AL are very different. Corney begged, stole and borrowed to put some sort of decent side out- and It could be said he risked the future of the football team to do so. AL isn’t arsed about the football team and how well it does, but enjoys owning the ‘club.’ That’s why he turns offers down- because he loves owning the club. Corney- for his faults was about the team doing as well as it could on what he afford or borrow. The chinese great bunch of lads see above Chinese interest before Abdullah showed up. We had a thread on it below. Chinese investors Thats just one I know about, in a 7-8 year period prior to Abdullah its highly likely we will have had other interest from other parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Monty Burns said: If you can't ever remember cornet over valuing the club and deals to sell the club collapsing for this very reason, then I suggest you visit your GP urgently. (one more than you) If you cant separate Corney and Blitz, then there is no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: The chinese great bunch of lads see above Chinese interest before Abdullah showed up. We had a thread on it below. Chinese investors Thats just one I know about, in a 7-8 year period prior to Abdullah its highly likely we will have had other interest from other parties. Ah, fair do’s. I forgot about the Chinese consortium. I would still argue though that was interest- as was Vaughan. Big difference between interest and an actual bid. Plus Corney couldn’t over value it, because after selling his shares he was effectively what AL is now. A badge owner. Corney must laughed his cock off when AL turned up, and offered him money for a badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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