MATCH: Scunny (h)

[oafc1955 1,055]

4 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

Except that Loft was the “target man “ and Van Veen played off him 

What’s that got to do with it...Rowe would be a good bet to score plenty playing alongside Van Veen!

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

1 minute ago, oafc1955 said:

What’s that got to do with it...Rowe would be a good bet to score plenty playing alongside Van Veen!

Let’s play 2 goalkeepers too 

[oafc1955 1,055]

WTF you on about!!!

[BP1960 3,075]

5 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

Let’s play 2 goalkeepers too 

 

Think you've lost the plot here.

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

2 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Think you've lost the plot here.

 

5 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:

WTF you on about!!!

If you want  Van Veen and Rowe to play the same role in the same team it is no different to saying you want  2 right backs 2 left wingers or 2 keepers

[oafc1955 1,055]

1 minute ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

 

If you want  Van Veen and Rowe to play the same role in the same team it is no different to saying you want  2 right backs 2 left wingers or 2 keepers

BP’s right...think you have!

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

5 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:

BP’s right...think you have!

Where would Van Veen play and where would Rowe play since you say you want Rowe playing off a target man which is what Van Veen does

[League one forever 1,191]

39 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

I agree to a point but we have shipped 23 goals in 12 league goals....if we have to score 3 every week Messi and Ronaldo might struggle let alone MacAleny and Dearnley

To be successful you need a  competent spine of keeper Centre half Centre midfielder and centre forward ...we are deficient in at least 2 of those and occasionally 3 

Of course. That’s what successful sides are built on. For us it’s a fantasy because that costs money that AL isn’t willing to pay.
 

Is this side good enough to finish top half - No. For the reasons you point out. 
 

Could/should it be better organised so we don’t concede an average of two a game, and see us mid table- yes. 
 

 

[Wardie 675]

10 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:

BP’s right...think you have!

He is saying Rowe and Van Veen are of the same mould and would not make for an efficient partnership as they would both play the same role. I think Rowe and Dearnley would do it for the Latics, if played together on a consistent basis. Something which Kewell finds impossible to do.

[Gary1906 391]

5 minutes ago, Wardie said:

He is saying Rowe and Van Veen are of the same mould and would not make for an efficient partnership as they would both play the same role. I think Rowe and Dearnley would do it for the Latics, if played together on a consistent basis. Something which Kewell finds impossible to do.

What he’s also saying is that he doesn’t really rate Rowe. He says it every week in one way or another!!

I agree with you though. If Rowe and Dearnley played every week I think they would both flourish. At the back end of last season they were forming a good partnership. They seem to complement each other. 

[Wardie 675]

1 minute ago, Gary1906 said:

What he’s also saying is that he doesn’t really rate Rowe. He says it every week in one way or another!!

I agree with you though. If Rowe and Dearnley played every week I think they would both flourish. At the back end of last season they were forming a good partnership. They seem to complement each other. 

I agree.
Maybe we should bombard Kewell's email with a 'Play Rowe/Dearnley' message. 

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

1 minute ago, Gary1906 said:

What he’s also saying is that he doesn’t really rate Rowe. He says it every week in one way or another!!

I agree with you though. If Rowe and Dearnley played every week I think they would both flourish. At the back end of last season they were forming a good partnership. They seem to complement each other. 

what I am saying is  who would you prefer  in your team Van Veen or Rowe  . ....nobody has answered

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

1 minute ago, Wardie said:

I agree.
Maybe we should bombard Kewell's email with a 'Play Rowe/Dearnley' message. 

He would love to play Dearnley and does on the few occasions he is fit

[Wardie 675]

7 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

what I am saying is  who would you prefer  in your team Van Veen or Rowe  . ....nobody has answered

6 months age difference, Rowe the  oldest.
Roughly 10 years game time each.

 

Van Veen - 110 - career goals
Rowe - 195 career goals

 

Give me Rowe any time,

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[Wardie 675]

7 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

He would love to play Dearnley and does on the few occasions he is fit

I believe fitness comes with match time.
I also believe Dearnley's lack of match time is Kewell's fault.

[oafcmetty 1,669]

1 minute ago, Wardie said:

6 months age difference, Rowe the  oldest.
Roughly 10 years game time each.

 

Van Veen - 110 - career goals
Rowe - 195 career goals

 

Give me Rowe any time,

What level though? Don't get me wrong, I'm a Rowe fan, but he's far from proven at league level, which I suspect VV is.

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

3 minutes ago, Wardie said:

I believe fitness comes with match time.
I also believe Dearnley's lack of match time is Kewell's fault.

Breaking down in the kick about before a game is Kewells fault ?  

[Wardie 675]

1 minute ago, oafcmetty said:

What level though? Don't get me wrong, I'm a Rowe fan, but he's far from proven at league level, which I suspect VV is.

According to Wiki, Van Veen's highest season tally [20] was in 2013/14 for dutch side JVC Cuijk, currently a fourth tier club. Rowe's highest was 155 in six/seven seasons for AFC Fylde [22/25].

[Wardie 675]

2 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

Breaking down in the kick about before a game is Kewells fault ?  

Play the player, maintain the fitness.
It's all Kewell's fault.

[Gary1906 391]

55 minutes ago, Behind Closed Doors said:

what I am saying is  who would you prefer  in your team Van Veen or Rowe  . ....nobody has answered

I’d prefer Rowe. There you go.

[Pidge 73]

7 hours ago, Wardie said:

Play the player, maintain the fitness.
It's all Kewell's fault.

It’s not as simple as that. Ask a physio. Ask the sports scientists and rehab therapists who have attended university courses and made careers out of this subject.

[Pidge 73]

Actually this type of season makes it really hard to rehab niggling injuries. If there is an injury resulting in a weakness in a specific muscle group, how do you get time to load that muscle group and recover from that loading when the next match is 3 or four days away. (After a rest day leaving only 2 or 3)

 

I think to be fair to HK team selection, his job has been made difficult by players being unavailable for a variety of reason. Initially there were several eg Bahamboula, Blackwood, Rowe, who were clearly not fit enough to play twice a week. ( That situation seems to be improving). Also several players have been unavailable due to COVID. There have been players with niggling injuries, available then not available. And finally the issue we all suspect, that ALMO have their own agenda of who needs game time to be in the shop window and who MUST NOT be played because they want them to leave.

[TheBigDog 1,617]

9 hours ago, Gary1906 said:

What he’s also saying is that he doesn’t really rate Rowe. He says it every week in one way or another!!

 

And yet he has played Rowe for the full 90 minutes in the last three games

 

Unfortunately for all concerned Rowe had a poor game yesterday albeit with very little support from his strike partners or midfield.

[Worcester Owl 651]

3 hours ago, Pidge said:

Actually this type of season makes it really hard to rehab niggling injuries. If there is an injury resulting in a weakness in a specific muscle group, how do you get time to load that muscle group and recover from that loading when the next match is 3 or four days away. (After a rest day leaving only 2 or 3)

 

I think to be fair to HK team selection, his job has been made difficult by players being unavailable for a variety of reason. Initially there were several eg Bahamboula, Blackwood, Rowe, who were clearly not fit enough to play twice a week. ( That situation seems to be improving). Also several players have been unavailable due to COVID. There have been players with niggling injuries, available then not available. And finally the issue we all suspect, that ALMO have their own agenda of who needs game time to be in the shop window and who MUST NOT be played because they want them to leave.

Good points, and exactly why ALMOBO, and not the manager of the day, are the crucial problem.

[Behind Closed Doors 283]

11 hours ago, Wardie said:

According to Wiki, Van Veen's highest season tally [20] was in 2013/14 for dutch side JVC Cuijk, currently a fourth tier club. Rowe's highest was 155 in six/seven seasons for AFC Fylde [22/25].

But we are not playing in the Dutch league or the National League....that is the point