kowenicki Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheep Foot said: Such a pity a game lasts 90mins though Well yeah. But to do that well against a team of that standard even further only 45 mins is good. I can’t fathom anyone being miserable about the game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Foot Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Well yeah. But to do that well against a team of that standard even further only 45 mins is good. I can’t fathom anyone being miserable about the game today. Yes and no.....but 10 of the Bournemouth team picked to play in the win at Stoke last week , weren’t picked today. In essence we lost 4-1 to Bournemouth reserves. When you think of wins against Fulham Liverpool Forest and cup runs of the last 10 years it is miserable to think we shouldn’t be miserable about losing 4-1 to a championship reserve side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheep Foot said: Yes and no.....but 10 of the Bournemouth team picked to play in the win at Stoke last week , weren’t picked today. In essence we lost 4-1 to Bournemouth reserves. When you think of wins against Fulham Liverpool Forest and cup runs of the last 10 years it is miserable to think we shouldn’t be miserable about losing 4-1 to a championship reserve side? Most of those Bournemouth reserves would easily get into other Championshop teams, the scoreline was flattering and not a reflection on how well we played in the first half when we could have scored 3 ourselves. It,'s not so much the defenders who are the problem, but the weak central midfield, we all know this, but will AL push the boat out and do something about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Foot Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Most of those Bournemouth reserves would easily get into other Championshop teams, the scoreline was flattering and not a reflection on how well we played in the first half when we could have scored 3 ourselves. It,'s not so much the defenders who are the problem, but the weak central midfield, we all know this, will AL push the boat out and do something about it? You know your football. Can you explain to me how and why when King heads a goal from six yards Perigianni is behind our goalkeeper on the line. . Similarlly for the second goal he is a foot in front of the keeper . It happens regularly . He retreats consistently instead of addressing the source of the issues and tries to play keeper. In your opinion is this not a systemic issue with his play and a major contributing factor to our goals against column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheep Foot said: You know your football. Can you explain to me how and why when King heads a goal from six yards Perigianni is behind our goalkeeper on the line. . Similarlly for the second goal he is a foot in front of the keeper . It happens regularly . He retreats consistently instead of addressing the source of the issues and tries to play keeper. In your opinion is this not a systemic issue with his play and a major contributing factor to our goals against column Like a lot of keepers these days he doesn't come off his line or catch the ball. He's not the best we have had, but not the worst by far. In the first half Piergianni snuffed out King and it was obvious the striker got a rocket from the manager at half time. In the 2nd he upped his game to a level we couldn't cope with. I find it's usually one or two higher class players like King and Brookes who make us realise just where we are, a middling second division club with little finance to bring in those players who can dominate, we have one in Bahamboula and the hope is a couple more can be found who will make a big difference. Perhaps the link we have with Bournemouth through Surridge might find others like that, they certainly seem to have a young strong squad, many of whom won't be regulars this season and might be willing to let one or two come to us on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Well played Oldham today. I'm never bothered about losing if we gave it our all. If we can put our first half performance into our remaining games and add a couple of other players then we will be in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Foot Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Like a lot of keepers these days he doesn't come off his line or catch the ball. He's not the best we have had, but not the worst by far. In the first half Piergianni snuffed out King and it was obvious the striker got a rocket from the manager at half time. In the 2nd he upped his game to a level we couldn't cope with. I find it's usually one or two higher class players like King and Brookes who make us realise just where we are, a middling second division club with little finance to bring in those players who can dominate, we have one in Bahamboula and the hope is a couple more can be found who will make a big difference. Perhaps the link we have with Bournemouth through Surridge might find others like that, they certainly seem to have a young strong squad, many of whom won't be regulars this season and might be willing to let one or two come to us on loan. Yes but I asked about Perigianni and his continual finishing position being on top of the keeper trying to stop the shot not the source ......today. behind the keeper and ..a foot off the keeper ....and King scored twice and assisted one .either side of half time. . In your opinion Perigianni part of the problem or part of the solution to our goals against issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Sheep Foot said: Yes but I asked about Perigianni and his continual finishing position being on top of the keeper trying to stop the shot not the source ......today. behind the keeper and ..a foot off the keeper ....and King scored twice and assisted one .either side of half time. . In your opinion Perigianni part of the problem or part of the solution to our goals against issue Pidge was far more effective when he could just play his own game and support, he hasn't got the leadership qualities required to influence the young guns along side him. Not his fault that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Sheep Foot said: Yes but I asked about Perigianni and his continual finishing position being on top of the keeper trying to stop the shot not the source ......today. behind the keeper and ..a foot off the keeper ....and King scored twice and assisted one .either side of half time. . In your opinion Perigianni part of the problem or part of the solution to our goals against issue No, its not Piergianni who is the problem, it's the poor midfield in front of him who can't tackle and constsantly give ball away. Replace Ntwambe, DKD and Garrity in particular with better players would make a big difference in taking pressure off the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Could we not have played this game at home today? Just feels like we given away a potential advantage for the sake of squeezing a match in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Foot Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Could we not have played this game at home today? Just feels like we given away a potential advantage for the sake of squeezing a match in. Rochdale played at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, Sheep Foot said: Rochdale played at home And they put the sprinklers on at half-time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: Could we not have played this game at home today? Just feels like we given away a potential advantage for the sake of squeezing a match in. Or played it at somewhere nearby with undersoil heating. Make them travel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, JoeP said: Or played it at somewhere nearby with undersoil heating. Make them travel... Exactly. I feel we caved in and gave them an easy option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, dannyboy55555 said: Exactly. I feel we caved in and gave them an easy option. Got the game played and out of the way, let's see if it has any bearing on results in the league or not? Making a charge towards the play offs is the aim from here on in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Got the game played and out of the way, let's see if it has any bearing on results in the league or not? Making a charge towards the play offs is the aim from here on in. Why are we trying to get an important cup tie out of the way? If we've benefitted from it in some way then I think we should know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Why are we trying to get an important cup tie out of the way? If we've benefitted from it in some way then I think we should know about it. With the way things are at this moment in time, a massive backlog of games, I see it as a blessing and the league is far more important all day long, only my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, mick26 said: And they put the sprinklers on at half-time! Chorley put the sparklers on today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Why are we trying to get an important cup tie out of the way? If we've benefitted from it in some way then I think we should know about it. It'll be against FA rules to benefit financially from swapping venues but we may have had our travel expenses covered by Bournemouth. Given the weather the match would probably not have been on at Boundary Park and with our home form I doubt the result would have been different. In the present situation it made sense to me to swap and avoid a fixture pile up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Making a charge towards the play offs is the aim from here on in. Love to be proved wrong but it's a fantasy in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Bobledgersheart said: It'll be against FA rules to benefit financially from swapping venues but we may have had our travel expenses covered by Bournemouth. Given the weather the match would probably not have been on at Boundary Park and with our home form I doubt the result would have been different. In the present situation it made sense to me to swap and avoid a fixture pile up. Surely pitch would have been ok for today? Fixtures will get played regardless. Home form irrelevant in context of a cup tie for me, result may well have been the same but I find our willingness to give up home advantage puzzling given the potential rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Love to be proved wrong but it's a fantasy in my book Defeatist and no point playing another game End the season right now is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Defeatist and no point playing another game End the season right now is it? Quite possibly, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Surely pitch would have been ok for today? Fixtures will get played regardless. Home form irrelevant in context of a cup tie for me, result may well have been the same but I find our willingness to give up home advantage puzzling given the potential rewards. Doubt Bournemouth would have agreed as they have a game on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Defeatist and no point playing another game End the season right now is it? With teams below us improving I'd be more concerned about the other end of the table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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