Crusoe Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) https://theathletic.com/2351449/2021/01/29/special-report-oldham-athletic-notes-toxic/ A very good, if depressing, summary of the state we’re in. It’s behind a paywall unfortunately but if you have a subscription or can get a free trial the football writing at The Athletic is very good (though not much below the Championship, sadly). Edited January 29 by Crusoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Doesn't really tell us much we don't already know, or at least what some of us have been saying for a while but being shot down by the "where is the proof" lads, but it's great that a respectable media outlet is highlighting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Exactly. Nothing new to fans - well, at least the “non-realistic” fans - but any light shone from the outside world is welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPAS Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 "Karl Evans, Oldham’s chief executive told a supporters’ podcast, The Boundary Park Alert System!, last week....." Nice to see BPAS getting quoted too. You might want to tune into Monday's episode as we react to this article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I'd like to play my "I'd rather have anyone else but him as owner" card... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) As said above, not a lot of information there that us fans didn't already know. However two things stand out to me from it. One is just how many ridiculous things have gone on at the club in the last 3+ years. Stories get buried because something even more ridiculous has popped up so soon after that you almost gloss over it, but that article weighs you down with all the things that have gone on that you can't ignore it. Secondly it's fans from other clubs perspective of it. We've gone a little under the radar in the wider football community because the problems haven't been quite as acute as say Bury or Macclesfield, but that article gives a great insight for the average football fan about the kind of stupid shit that has become common place at the club, that shouldn't be acceptable at a professional club. Thanks to the writers for going into that much detail. Edited January 29 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Ok what’s the crack with that? I’ve paid £3.99 and still can’t access the article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, Chaddyexile84 said: Ok what’s the crack with that? I’ve paid £3.99 and still can’t access the article Just send your bank details to a website in Nigeria, it'll be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, disjointed said: Just send your bank details to a website in Nigeria, it'll be fine. Im in now and didn’t need a Nigerian Prince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 For anyone who's not paid the £3.99 for the monthly subscription to see it - Sign up for the annual subscription with the 7-day free trial, read it and immediately cancel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Excellent negation of the inevitable Monty the tightarse question there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Will there be any repercussions arising from this...ie. HMRC/EFL. I rather think they will be showing a keen interest in these revelations!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Ok what’s the crack with that? I’ve paid £3.99 and still can’t access the article I wouldn't bother tbh, it's not a great read. There's nothing there that hasn't been written in countless other articles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1.) For those on twitter who don’t want to pay the cost there’s some screenshots knocking about on the #oafc. If the person responsible is on here thanks again.* 2.) It tells us only very little new. I think most knew that there was a bit of cash-in-hand activity going on but not necessarily the extent of it. Most of it was collected from other sources in the public domain. 3.) That being said the aforementioned cash-in-hand was in November 2017, when Corney was nominally in charge, although AL was clearly pulling the purse strings. Presumably because AL wasn’t registered enough in this country to bring money in, he needed to do these literally under the table deals to pay players and staff. IIRC there was talk about accounts being frozen around then too, which further explains the need for cash-in-hand. 4.) I would hope that the HMRC will be OK with people being paid cash in hand, provided the other stuff from wages, tax, NI and pension were properly deducted. They may not be, or may require evidence that the deductions actually happened. 5.) Although it doesn’t tell most of our fans anything new it does highlight the plight of our club to a wider audience. The club can claim it’s lies or blame disgruntled former employees, and some will believe them. If anything is false, and I’d be surprised if it is, then the club can sue for libel. It’s funny how despite all these claims of falsehoods and the like the club, or more importantly AL and MO, have never sued anyone for libel as far as I’m aware. *If the mods don’t mind I can post a direct link if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, rudemedic said: If the person responsible is on here thanks again.* Got to disagree here, support journalists and click the article - if you can pay for it, do so - if not use the 7-day free-trial. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 If you want a summary of the shit show that is AL’s reign it’s an okay read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyinthesnow Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Although one current unnamed player thinks AL is doing his best and things are a lot better than 12 months ago. Probably narrows it down as not many wete here 12 montha ago that still are.. and it won't be Wheater with his NDA. Hamer, Fage, Pidge, CBJ or Dearnley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Was the cash in a Lidl or M&S bag asking for a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, boyinthesnow said: Although one current unnamed player thinks AL is doing his best and things are a lot better than 12 months ago. Probably narrows it down as not many wete here 12 montha ago that still are.. and it won't be Wheater with his NDA. Hamer, Fage, Pidge, CBJ or Dearnley? Fage, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: 4.) I would hope that the HMRC will be OK with people being paid cash in hand, provided the other stuff from wages, tax, NI and pension were properly deducted. They may not be, or may require evidence that the deductions actually happened. I might be wrong, but isn't this the reason HMRC raided the club offices in late 2017...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, rudemedic said: 1.) For those on twitter who don’t want to pay the cost there’s some screenshots knocking about on the #oafc. If the person responsible is on here thanks again.* 2.) It tells us only very little new. I think most knew that there was a bit of cash-in-hand activity going on but not necessarily the extent of it. Most of it was collected from other sources in the public domain. 3.) That being said the aforementioned cash-in-hand was in November 2017, when Corney was nominally in charge, although AL was clearly pulling the purse strings. Presumably because AL wasn’t registered enough in this country to bring money in, he needed to do these literally under the table deals to pay players and staff. IIRC there was talk about accounts being frozen around then too, which further explains the need for cash-in-hand. 4.) I would hope that the HMRC will be OK with people being paid cash in hand, provided the other stuff from wages, tax, NI and pension were properly deducted. They may not be, or may require evidence that the deductions actually happened. 5.) Although it doesn’t tell most of our fans anything new it does highlight the plight of our club to a wider audience. The club can claim it’s lies or blame disgruntled former employees, and some will believe them. If anything is false, and I’d be surprised if it is, then the club can sue for libel. It’s funny how despite all these claims of falsehoods and the like the club, or more importantly AL and MO, have never sued anyone for libel as far as I’m aware. *If the mods don’t mind I can post a direct link if needed. Why not pay the money into the clubs bank account and let them distribute the wages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 41 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Why not pay the money into the clubs bank account and let them distribute the wages? Because when making large cash deposits, you have to explain where said cash has originated from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Why not pay the money into the clubs bank account and let them distribute the wages? 39 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Because when making large cash deposits, you have to explain where said cash has originated from. And weren’t the clubs accounts frozen at one point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPAS Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 hours ago, BPAS said: "Karl Evans, Oldham’s chief executive told a supporters’ podcast, The Boundary Park Alert System!, last week....." Nice to see BPAS getting quoted too. You might want to tune into Monday's episode as we react to this article. Make sure you tune in on Monday, as we're joined by Mike Keegan to discuss the Salford game and the content of the Athletic article published today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bosnian Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Leon Knight claims the Rushden & Diamonds Chairman paid him £30K in cash in a black bin bag as a signing on fee, it probably happens more than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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