Londonboy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Pogliacomi. He stopped the opposition from scoring... He was a good un, although he did have a couple of top centre halfs in front of him for that level in Clint and Onesize...oh for anything like that quality nowadays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamHughes Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Gary Kelly,Les Pogliacomi definitely the two that stand out for me on permanent contracts.Lee Grant,Paul Rachubka both impressed on loan that I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Summerdeep said: I'd like to give an honourable mention to Barry Gordine. He had the difficult task of replacing David Best in 1968-69, but did well despite the team finishing in 24th place in the old Div 3 and being relegated. In 1969-70 he had another excellent season, despite the side being engaged in a desperate struggle to avoid having to apply for re-election. When one of the football magazines (I think it was Shoot) published their best Div 4 line up for that season, they selected Gordine as their keeper. It all went wrong in the 1970-71 promotion season. Frizzell signed a goalie called Maurice Short from Middlesbrough, who displaced Gordine from the side at the start of the campaign. Short however proved absolutely hopeless, and Gordine won back his place after half a dozen matches, continuing to impress: in a 1-0 win at high-flying Chester in November, Jim Williams described him as 'safe as the Bank of England' in his match report (that was in the era before Quantitative Easing, LOL). A few weeks later, he had his one bad game in a 2-4 home defeat by Southport (where he gave away the opening goal) and within days Frizzell had signed Harry Dowd from Man City, who stepped straight into the side for the next match and remained first choice keeper for the next three years. Gordine only made one more appearance for Latics, covering for Dowd in a match at Darlington in Feb '71. Not only that, but he never made another appearance in professional football for any team, despite being only 22 in 1971. From what I can remember, he definitely had the potential to have played at a higher level than Div 3 or Div 4, and can only guess that he might have had problems with his attitude and application to the game. Maybe there was also a personality clash with Frizzell, who clearly didn't see him as first choice keeper for the 70-71 season, and was very quick to drop him after the Southport match. Gordine was one of our smallest keepers, but maybe the most agile Harry Dowd was excellent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Harry Dowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 The best all round keepers in my time are either Hallworth or Ripley. Most of the others were great shot stoppers, but couldn’t catch a cold. The above had fantastic distribution, commanded their box well and made saves that made you think - ‘how has he got to that’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, Flemboy said: Harry Dowd. Not the tallest, but great on taking crosses as he was so strong under pressure. Lawlor is far taller but so weak in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Peter McDonnell signed from Livepool was probably the best at taking crosses I've seen. He used to collect the ball with one knee high. Attackers soon learned not to go anywhere near him. A simple effective ploy I don't think is in the coaching manuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1969 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Did he break his leg in one game seem to remember....Not something we see much now thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Peter McDonnell signed from Livepool was probably the best at taking crosses I've seen. He used to collect the ball with one knee high. Attackers soon learned not to go anywhere near him. A simple effective ploy I don't think is in the coaching manuals Wasn't there a story about him, a very loyal female supporter and an encounter on a train? Good keeper who is often overlooked when looking back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, League one forever said: The best all round keepers in my time are either Hallworth or Ripley. Most of the others were great shot stoppers, but couldn’t catch a cold. The above had fantastic distribution, commanded their box well and made saves that made you think - ‘how has he got to that’ If we're talking higher divisions then, like McDonnell, Hallworth is often overlooked. Very consistent keeper. Commanded his area and fancied himself as a central striker. Also, a nice bloke. Met him and his wife in China Town one Saturday night. Of course, no one was better than Andy Goram. He was a class act (first time round). If Gorton hadn't been a lunatic, i think he'd have achieved a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: If we're talking higher divisions then, like McDonnell, Hallworth is often overlooked. Very consistent keeper. Commanded his area and fancied himself as a central striker. Also, a nice bloke. Met him and his wife in China Town one Saturday night. Of course, no one was better than Andy Goram. He was a class act (first time round). If Gorton hadn't been a lunatic, i think he'd have achieved a great deal. Did Hallworth regress at all? I didn’t see him up until the prem and seem to recall Gerrard deposed him (despite his horror shows against both Spurs and Liverpool when he thought he was a midfielder). Then in our first game back in the Championship (division 1) I remember him walking to the edge of the box to pick up a dead ball and someone behind shouting ”Bloody hell Hallworths come off his line” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bobby Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 John Boy. Billy Johnstone had his ankle broken but then we also sold George Kinnell and Frank Large for big profits to Sunderland and Leicester. With David Best and Ken Knighton coming in we would have gone up with Billy Johnstone also fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bobby Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Ripley saving 2 penalties in injury time against Millwall takes some beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: Peter McDonnell signed from Livepool was probably the best at taking crosses I've seen. He used to collect the ball with one knee high. Attackers soon learned not to go anywhere near him. A simple effective ploy I don't think is in the coaching manuals Remember Oggy and Platt as the first keepers when my Latics journey began, then McDonnell who ended up at Morecambe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerdeep Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 ^ Whatever Platt's strengths were, they certainly didn't include an ability to save penalties. Look at his performance in this 1976 match at Bolton (at 4:38 and 6:18). https://youtu.be/FwV1nrgP5uc Also at Liverpool 1977, at the 3:40 mark: https://youtu.be/cGFBSdm1VNM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkleking Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 John Platt and Peter McDonnell were the two keepers when I first started watching under Jimmy Frizzell. They didn't exactly alternate the number 1 spot, but they did seem to swap over quite regularly. It was similar with Hallworth and Rhodes 10 years later. Does anyone remember Winston Dubose, an American if I remember correctly. I saw him play once (maybe a Cup game) and I never saw him play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sparkleking said: John Platt and Peter McDonnell were the two keepers when I first started watching under Jimmy Frizzell. They didn't exactly alternate the number 1 spot, but they did seem to swap over quite regularly. It was similar with Hallworth and Rhodes 10 years later. Does anyone remember Winston Dubose, an American if I remember correctly. I saw him play once (maybe a Cup game) and I never saw him play again. I seem to remember Dubose playing in a night game, also he was shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkleking Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, disjointed said: I seem to remember Dubose playing in a night game, also he was shite. Yes, it was a night match when I saw him. Leyland DAF Trophy or whatever it was called then perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sparkleking said: John Platt and Peter McDonnell were the two keepers when I first started watching under Jimmy Frizzell. They didn't exactly alternate the number 1 spot, but they did seem to swap over quite regularly. It was similar with Hallworth and Rhodes 10 years later. Does anyone remember Winston Dubose, an American if I remember correctly. I saw him play once (maybe a Cup game) and I never saw him play again. Plenty of us 50 somethings on here How can we ever forget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Peter McDonnell used to use one foot for dead ball kicks and the other foot when clearing from his hands. Nigel Batch at Grimsby did too. PMcD was a very good keeper. Also David Best, Jon Hallworth, Andy Rhodes, Harry Dowd, Chris Ogden, Jimmy Rollo, John Hardie (unlucky to be around at the same time as Rollo) plus many more from way back when. But the best for me would be Goram (first time around), Iverson, Ripley and Pogliacomi. I'd even take the Johny Placide we had before his mother died (his form really suffered after that). He made some incredible saves, commanded the box and had excellent distribution. Heart stopping at times, admittedly. The worst? Blayney, Miskelly, Budtz and the two loans that Shez had lumped on him. Lawlor isn't the worst by far, but his confidence could well be shot. Worth giving Bilboe a shot IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bristolatic said: Peter McDonnell used to use one foot for dead ball kicks and the other foot when clearing from his hands. Nigel Batch at Grimsby did too. PMcD was a very good keeper. Also David Best, Jon Hallworth, Andy Rhodes, Harry Dowd, Chris Ogden, Jimmy Rollo, John Hardie (unlucky to be around at the same time as Rollo) plus many more from way back when. But the best for me would be Goram (first time around), Iverson, Ripley and Pogliacomi. I'd even take the Johny Placide we had before his mother died (his form really suffered after that). He made some incredible saves, commanded the box and had excellent distribution. Heart stopping at times, admittedly. The worst? Blayney, Miskelly, Budtz and the two loans that Shez had lumped on him. Lawlor isn't the worst by far, but his confidence could well be shot. Worth giving Bilboe a shot IMO. No real surprise with a rice paper thin defense infront of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkleking Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 If this thread is turning into a "worst ever" thread, then what about poor John Keeley...pun intended. The guy was great when playing against us for Brighton, but he had a nightmare when he signed for us, in more ways than one. Without digging out my fanzines, in the space of a couple of months didn't his house get burgled, his wife left him, and he ran over his cat on his driveway? On top of that (or because of that) he had a torrid time on the field and was soon destined not to play for us again. I think he cost us £250k as well, big money for us then (and now!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Wee Bobby said: Ripley saving 2 penalties in injury time against Millwall takes some beating. Still piss myself at the Millwall fan who videod it in the Chaddy when he said ..you couldn't f**king make this up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyt84 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 John Keeley was terrible both times I saw him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Banks, Zone 3 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, BP1960 said: Peter McDonnell signed from Livepool was probably the best at taking crosses I've seen. He used to collect the ball with one knee high. Attackers soon learned not to go anywhere near him. A simple effective ploy I don't think is in the coaching manuals I'm pretty sure that ploy was actually in my Bob Wilson's Book Of Goalkeeping when I was a kid , it was standard practice in those days to give the keeper some protection and something I always practiced. I totally agree about Peter McDonnell, he was one of my first Latics heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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