singe Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, PeteG said: Bet you think OJ Simpson was innocent as well You're way off the mark, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Made it thru. My fave bits- Mohamed Lim Sang-Um Abdallah Limzangum He's worked with two of them from day one, so one of them must be how its pronounced. Wonder if he knows they're brothers and they've got the same name. Matt goin 'lm sick of hearing the potential of Oldham Athletic, l wana see the [frantically tries not to say] potential of Oldham Athletic.' Barry saying 'we do ourselves down at Oldham' and how we've got loadsa potential before about an hour later saying there's very little potential left at Oldham bc the Lim Sang-Um brothers have killed it off. Barry implying that anybody who wants to drink in the north stand bar has to buy and produce a match ticket beforehand to stop terrorism then 'resting his case' bc he has 'read the book cover to cover'. It did help me understand why the potential fans bar that died a death could only open until 1300 tho. Andy 'Abdallah clearly doesn't care about the fans and..' BAZZA INTERJECTS 'NO..no.. that is an unfair allegation against me.' What Barry???? Then he started going on about showing tickets again. Disengeniusm (that a real word?) at its best. 'Do l come across OK, lads?' Could almost feel the awkwardness oozing out of my phone!! Clear annoyance in Andy's voice by the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 19 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: The land has a tangible value to it the worst case scenario and Oldham Athletic ceases to be then you have a 20 plus acre site in a residential area which can be turned into houses or several other things even. The club being valued at £5,million is value of Abdallah loans knowone with any sense will pay that for a business that consistently turns in a loss and with no assets. If the club goes bump then he doesn't getvthat back. So yes their is some logic to the ground valuation absolutely none whatsoever to the clubs. The real value in the land would come if the Hospital ever looked to expand or build a huge shiny new department/centre. BP and the surrounding area then comes prime land and perfectly placed for a sale. That isn't happening anytime soon though. Residential land obviously makes a lot of money but we're still in Oldham where land and property are cheaper than most of the rest of the country. Does anyone know how much the land where the Clayton used to be went for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, Roger Ritchie said: The real value in the land would come if the Hospital ever looked to expand or build a huge shiny new department/centre. BP and the surrounding area then comes prime land and perfectly placed for a sale. That isn't happening anytime soon though. Residential land obviously makes a lot of money but we're still in Oldham where land and property are cheaper than most of the rest of the country. Does anyone know how much the land where the Clayton used to be went for? Can you answer my question- Why would ANY non football investor pay an over inflated price for the ‘land’ because the seller wants to recoup his money for a new building that sits on the land but that the buyer doesn’t want and will need to knock down? I can’t think of one example anywhere in society where this has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Incidentally. Andy jumping in with a “or woman” made me laugh. Loretta life of Brian vibes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: Incidentally. Andy jumping in with a “or woman” made me laugh. Loretta life of Brian vibes... As much as I don't like what Barry has done, him not having a womb is not his fault. AL has done nothing to try and inprove the situation though. Abdallah out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'm trying to do a bit of good with the money I'm withholding from the clowns. I've directed some to the purchase of a BPAS t-shirt. I only ordered it yesterday and it arrived today. I'm very pleased with the design and quality. I can recommend getting one. Support the lads and the podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Incidentally. Andy jumping in with a “or woman” made me laugh. Loretta life of Brian vibes... You ok? Said that twice now yano *hopes it was actually Kov but asif l'm ever gna check sumat before talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Can you answer my question- Why would ANY non football investor pay an over inflated price for the ‘land’ because the seller wants to recoup his money for a new building that sits on the land but that the buyer doesn’t want and will need to knock down? I can’t think of one example anywhere in society where this has happened. And who wants to be the developer building on the carcass of where a football club used to be, assuming we haven't left of our own accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, deyres42 said: And who wants to be the developer building on the carcass of where a football club used to be, assuming we haven't left of our own accord. Aye. I can think of much better PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, deyres42 said: And who wants to be the developer building on the carcass of where a football club used to be, assuming we haven't left of our own accord. 2 minutes ago, League one forever said: Aye. I can think of much better PR. If it went house building then believe me PR doesn’t come into it - planning for 343 houses has been granted to a developer on open green space near me to the uproar of locals and they quite frankly couldn’t care less despite local news and pressure to the council I work in construction, though civil engineering, if the £££’s out weigh the PR they’ll crack on - the football club is worthless as is the land for anything other than the club whilst the club sit on it. If the club went bust Blitz would get his asking price no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: If it went house building then believe me PR doesn’t come into it - planning for 343 houses has been granted to a developer on open green space near me to the uproar of locals and they quite frankly couldn’t care less despite local news and pressure to the council I work in construction, though civil engineering, if the £££’s out weigh the PR they’ll crack on - the football club is worthless as is the land for anything other than the club whilst the club sit on it. If the club went bust Blitz would get his asking price no doubt 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Can you answer my question- Why would ANY non football investor pay an over inflated price for the ‘land’ because the seller wants to recoup his money for a new building that sits on the land but that the buyer doesn’t want and will need to knock down? I can’t think of one example anywhere in society where this has happened. I get the point about PR- money talks. Can you answer the above though Chaddy seeing as though you’re in the game. It makes no sense to me why anyone would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, League one forever said: I get the point about PR- money talks. Can you answer the above though Chaddy seeing as though you’re in the game. It makes no sense to me why anyone would do it. Probably not I’m in Health and Safety not an expert on the commercial side though you get to pick up the gist - the land isn’t worth a great deal whilst the club sits on it as you would need to want to buy the club too and either move it or run it out of business first - that would be a PR disaster and even the EFL should spot that plan before it got there. So you are right - as long as the club exists then Blitz and AL are in la la land - if the club ceased to exist ala Bury then that land would be worth a lot more as the cost of demolishing BP would easily be recouped in Housing prices - which is why I’m not quite as sure of Blitz “not allowing the club to die” as others - he stands a much greater chance of recouping his money if it did just that AL on the other hand he’s fucked if he thinks he’s getting his outlay back never mind a profit - SC well and truly had his pants down and he’s proven to be fairly thick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Probably not I’m in Health and Safety not an expert on the commercial side though you get to pick up the gist - the land isn’t worth a great deal whilst the club sits on it as you would need to want to buy the club too and either move it or run it out of business first - that would be a PR disaster and even the EFL should spot that plan before it got there. So you are right - as long as the club exists then Blitz and AL are in la la land - if the club ceased to exist ala Bury then that land would be worth a lot more as the cost of demolishing BP would easily be recouped in Housing prices - which is why I’m not quite as sure of Blitz “not allowing the club to die” as others - he stands a much greater chance of recouping his money if it did just that AL on the other hand he’s fucked if he thinks he’s getting his outlay back never mind a profit - SC well and truly had his pants down and he’s proven to be fairly thick Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Monty Burns said: You ok? Said that twice now yano *hopes it was actually Kov but asif l'm ever gna check sumat before talking Have I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 4 hours ago, deyres42 said: And who wants to be the developer building on the carcass of where a football club used to be, assuming we haven't left of our own accord. Let's see what happens at Gigg Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emcee_Latic Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Football Grounds are usually covered by a covenant that says that the land can only be used for sports purposes. The proposal to build our ground on Clayton Playing Fields was only going to be allowed on the condition that they had to provide football pitches at an alternative place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It was interesting how strongly BO confirmed that MO interfered with player selections. We all kind of know this from players banished and the inexplicable playing of some of the worst players who were then allowed on the pitch again the next match ( usually in very strange substitutions with 10 minutes to go) Surely Mo can’t keep persuading his brother that things are getting better. Surely he cannot say to his brother, “it wasn’t my fault, it was everyone else” because he has had a huge say in everything which has gone wrong. Manager recruitment and retention, players recruitment and who to play, CEO selection, sponsors and season ticket gate. How can he possibly wriggle out of blame for the failure to progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Weirdly found myself listening to this again this morning at the gym and on my walk into work. I'm still lost for words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Emcee_Latic said: Football Grounds are usually covered by a covenant that says that the land can only be used for sports purposes. The proposal to build our ground on Clayton Playing Fields was only going to be allowed on the condition that they had to provide football pitches at an alternative place. Ours has a ten year covenant on it during the TTA’s reign - not sure when it runs out Considering that their are houses where Highbury stood I can’t imagine it’s an insurmountable obstacle at any rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Ours has a ten year covenant on it during the TTA’s reign - not sure when it runs out Considering that their are houses where Highbury stood I can’t imagine it’s an insurmountable obstacle at any rate yes, it’s pretty much how the big developers get planning through....they first say they are going to build 2,000 houses and napalm the council offices. The council reacts in horror so the developers re-submit the application asking for just 1,000 houses and call off the air strike. The council claims they have won a great victory and approves the build (despite 97% of locals objecting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPAS Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Ours has a ten year covenant on it during the TTA’s reign - not sure when it runs out Considering that their are houses where Highbury stood I can’t imagine it’s an insurmountable obstacle at any rate 38 minutes ago, Ritchierich said: yes, it’s pretty much how the big developers get planning through....they first say they are going to build 2,000 houses and napalm the council offices. The council reacts in horror so the developers re-submit the application asking for just 1,000 houses and call off the air strike. The council claims they have won a great victory and approves the build (despite 97% of locals objecting) There is no covenant. See Blitz Q&A answer from Jan 2020: https://pushtheboundary.co.uk/blitz-q-a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 14 hours ago, kowenicki said: Have I? Think so. Altho once or twice a year l vividly dream sumat and then it happens!! Usually stuff like words for a weddin/funeral speach or a bet to place, never run of the mill owtb posting before l don't think Be mazin if that means l'm set for a nice quiet few years but l highly doubt it ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I've just asked this on another thread but does anyone know how long is left on the lease that the club has? I could be way out but from memory it's only about 10 years or less which is not long at all. The clock is ticking and we could be homeless. We need an owner who can buy the lot if we are ever to move forward in the slightest. I've always felt Blitz would be happy to see the club go under as it would then allow him to build on the land and in my eyes it's worth far more without a club than with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2031 rings a bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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