Gary_P Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I find it really hard to believe there wouldn't be people wanting to step in. We do ourselves a disservice at times. We all know we haven't been run right for decades. I don't think we have ever made best use of sponsorship opportunities. Its a huge town with so many potential fans. Granted we have two huge clubs on our doorstep. Things in our favour: Long history Potential fanbase Great location Clearly it needs to be all in - ie buying the club, land etc. But I'm confident people would be interested. We just need to get to that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sparkleking said: We get mentioned on the BBC website today...https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58475279 calling that piece an analysis is stretching the definition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_P Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 4:03 PM, Andy b said: I’d like to think our fans would protest and boycott like Blackpool did if we were top. However in the context of AL’s current rating amongst fans we clearly wouldn’t. Where is this rating you mention? I agree we have a lot of older supporters who may well be unaware/put blinkers on for the social aspect. In a way thats so damning for the future and the way they have treated the Athleticos shows there is no long term plan. The future "customers" for maybe 70 years treated appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Gary_P said: I find it really hard to believe there wouldn't be people wanting to step in. We do ourselves a disservice at times. We all know we haven't been run right for decades. I don't think we have ever made best use of sponsorship opportunities. Its a huge town with so many potential fans. Granted we have two huge clubs on our doorstep. Things in our favour: Long history Potential fanbase Great location Clearly it needs to be all in - ie buying the club, land etc. But I'm confident people would be interested. We just need to get to that stage. Where are they then Gary? Plenty of the much coveted media coverage in the past few weeks and yet not heard so much as a whisper about someone putting their name forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, Gary_P said: I find it really hard to believe there wouldn't be people wanting to step in. We do ourselves a disservice at times. We all know we haven't been run right for decades. I don't think we have ever made best use of sponsorship opportunities. Its a huge town with so many potential fans. Granted we have two huge clubs on our doorstep. Things in our favour: Long history Potential fanbase Great location Clearly it needs to be all in - ie buying the club, land etc. But I'm confident people would be interested. We just need to get to that stage. We have a population of over 463300 combined with Oldham and Tameside, Oldham alone has a population of over 237000 people. We are attracting less than 1% at present of that potential. I know we have the two big boys down the road but theres still scope for potential fans if things could be made appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: I'm hungry for it! (although saddened that Kidderminster have changed caterers) Manna from heaven for the groundhoppers and hipsters. Not sure if your bread and butter Tic is so hungry to lock horns with your Maidenheads and Wokings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_P Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Where are they then Gary? Plenty of the much coveted media coverage in the past few weeks and yet not heard so much as a whisper about someone putting their name forward. They really aren't going to push their name in the media though are they. Why would they if it doesn't come off. Continuing as we are is pointless. Continue pushing, i think we could be suprised how much interest there could be. Whats the alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, Gary_P said: I find it really hard to believe there wouldn't be people wanting to step in. TTA were actively trying to sell the club (not the stand or land) for years and then some. There's scant evidence anyone wanted us. 48 minutes ago, Gary_P said: Things in our favour: Long history Potential fanbase Great location History is great... but for 20+ years we've not been making any. We are a long, long way from the days of "favourite other team" and the like. I met a guy on a course last week who was mid-20s and had basically no idea who Oldham were. He was a United fan (obviously- the course was in south London) and plenty knowledgeable about the PL and such. Just didn't have a clue about Latics. Those days are just so far gone. Potential is one thing, application is another. No sensible businessperson is buying a club like Latics on potential. We've had that potential for the same 20+ years and haemorrhaged fans. We can certainly stop the rot and balance things, we can be a solid L1 team maybe. But the money doesn't start there, and the chance of Latics making the Championship are miniscule when it comes to someone looking to take a calculated risk and make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gary_P said: They really aren't going to push their name in the media though are they. Why would they if it doesn't come off. Continuing as we are is pointless. Continue pushing, i think we could be suprised how much interest there could be. Whats the alternative? It took Corney best part of 10 years to offload it to this lad. I would have expected someone to have at least publicly expressed an interest in it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_P Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Just now, Ackey said: TTA were actively trying to sell the club (not the stand or land) for years and then some. There's scant evidence anyone wanted us. History is great... but for 20+ years we've not been making any. We are a long, long way from the days of "favourite other team" and the like. I met a guy on a course last week who was mid-20s and had basically no idea who Oldham were. He was a United fan (obviously- the course was in south London) and plenty knowledgeable about the PL and such. Just didn't have a clue about Latics. Those days are just so far gone. Potential is one thing, application is another. No sensible businessperson is buying a club like Latics on potential. We've had that potential for the same 20+ years and haemorrhaged fans. We can certainly stop the rot and balance things, we can be a solid L1 team maybe. But the money doesn't start there, and the chance of Latics making the Championship are miniscule when it comes to someone looking to take a calculated risk and make money. Sorry i do not agree with that. There are very real reasons we don't make money. Some won't resolve it overnight but will add to it. Buying tickets and the confidence is zero Lack of commercial awareness - we pass one of the busiest motorways and cities in the country Our own food and drink offerings are terrible- even at League 2 Why when we offer freebie tickets not follow up with some more offers to get the kids interested? Ie 50% off the next 3 games, 25% off the next 6. Discount shirts for those to get people wanting to support the club. The whole commercial aspect is terrible. And thats from someone worldy knowledged in Business. There are opportunities that we don't take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Where are they then Gary? Plenty of the much coveted media coverage in the past few weeks and yet not heard so much as a whisper about someone putting their name forward. This frustrates me. I know for a fact there are people interested in buying the club. They could make life much more uncomfortable for the Lemsagam bros by coming out and publicly declaring an interest in buying the club, but they just sit remaining silent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Gary_P said: Where is this rating you mention? I agree we have a lot of older supporters who may well be unaware/put blinkers on for the social aspect. In a way thats so damning for the future and the way they have treated the Athleticos shows there is no long term plan. The future "customers" for maybe 70 years treated appalling. AL isn’t universally seen as a major problem. No fan in their right mind backs him but I don’t believe the level of animosity towards him is that the level needed. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_P Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andy b said: AL isn’t universally seen as a major problem. No fan in their right mind backs him but I don’t believe the level of animosity towards him is that the level needed. Yet. Really? What will it take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: This frustrates me. I know for a fact there are people interested in buying the club. They could make life much more uncomfortable for the Lemsagam bros by coming out and publicly declaring an interest in buying the club, but they just sit remaining silent... Do you see them as credible to provide the very significant funds needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: This frustrates me. I know for a fact there are people interested in buying the club. They could make life much more uncomfortable for the Lemsagam bros by coming out and publicly declaring an interest in buying the club, but they just sit remaining silent... Indeed Pat, I think it would be tremendously helpful if they came forward and showed some intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Gary_P said: Really? What will it take? Apathy is the problem we have here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, Andy b said: AL isn’t universally seen as a major problem. No fan in their right mind backs him but I don’t believe the level of animosity towards him is that the level needed. Yet. What level do you suggest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 21 hours ago, kowenicki said: What are these legal reasons regarding Scholes and the JR stand he can't talk about? Scholes could have used interference as an excuse to get out when he found out managing a L1 team was harder than he thought, but he could bring a string of ex managers and players to court to back him up. AL only has Mo to back him up. Barry Owen said that AL wanted to fund a legal case regarding the ownership of the JR stand, but had changed his mind and was no longer willing to fund it. He's also talking about legal action against the former owner. What's holding that up after all this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 57 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: This frustrates me. I know for a fact there are people interested in buying the club. They could make life much more uncomfortable for the Lemsagam bros by coming out and publicly declaring an interest in buying the club, but they just sit remaining silent... 49 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Indeed Pat, I think it would be tremendously helpful if they came forward and showed some intent. You both keep trotting this out- and yet I can’t think of one example in the history of the football where potential buyers publicise early talks or feelers to the incumbent owner. Hi all Latics fans. Im X - I recently held preliminary discussions about buying the club. Last week I texted a source at the club to get a price from the owner. He talked to the owner and I was given a figure. This price vastly over values the badge and so I counter offered for a quarter of what he asked. He turned it down, and until he lowers this figure I won’t be taking discussion further. Even If by some miracle someone was naive enough to put that or similar into public domain- what does that get us? What does it achieve? Nothing. Never has or will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: This frustrates me. I know for a fact there are people interested in buying the club. They could make life much more uncomfortable for the Lemsagam bros by coming out and publicly declaring an interest in buying the club, but they just sit remaining silent... Sit silent as we continue to fall, saves them money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, League one forever said: You both keep trotting this out- and yet I can’t think of one example in the history of the football where potential buyers publicise early talks or feelers to the incumbent owner. Hi all Latics fans. Im X - I recently held preliminary discussions about buying the club. Last week I texted a source at the club to get a price from the owner. He talked to the owner and I was given a figure. This price vastly over values the badge and so I counter offered for a quarter of what he asked. He turned it down, and until he lowers this figure I won’t be taking discussion further. Even If by some miracle someone was naive enough to put that or similar into public domain- what does that get us? What does it achieve? Nothing. Never has or will happen. From the potential buyers pov it achieves nothing, in fact it will probably burn bridges. That's why it won't happen. But from a fan's pov it proves they are lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: From the potential buyers pov it achieves nothing, in fact it will probably burn bridges. That's why it won't happen. But from a fan's pov it proves they are lying. I think we know that to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careca9 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Gary_P said: I find it really hard to believe there wouldn't be people wanting to step in. We do ourselves a disservice at times. We all know we haven't been run right for decades. I don't think we have ever made best use of sponsorship opportunities. Its a huge town with so many potential fans. Granted we have two huge clubs on our doorstep. Things in our favour: Long history Potential fanbase Great location Clearly it needs to be all in - ie buying the club, land etc. But I'm confident people would be interested. We just need to get to that stage. Defo good potential, the club having had 20 years of finishing in bottom half is still prob a league 1 club on fan base alone atm. Could easy match Rotherham/Peterborough/Luton but not owning all the ground puts us at a huge disadvantage. Hopefully the same pressure on blitz will help us align this in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careca9 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Indeed Pat, I think it would be tremendously helpful if they came forward and showed some intent. If this is the case I’d personally like to hear about it and prob a lot of others. I want ALMO out but not at the expense of a worse case scenario. A few mentioning there are people interested which is good but we could do with knowing if the price is being set at a ridiculous level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, League one forever said: I think we know that to be fair. It was you who asked the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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