oafc1955 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: As a counter arguement to that, I bought 2 season ticket's last Tuesday and went yesterday We’ll have to excuse you…you’re obviously off yer rocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, laticsmarra said: Logically if there was no pay on the day then it would just be season ticket holders attending and all of them didnt attend.I know at least 3 that werent there. I dont think even the club have said we have 3000 season ticket holders. As ever nothing adds up with this lot in charge of our club. I thought tickets were available online. I don't think clubs include ST holders when announcing the attendance. They are supposed to use the turnstile counters. Alan Hardy showed these to fans when we thought the numbers being announced were falsely low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Yard Dog said: I don't think you could argue much with the estimate of around a 1,000 for the protest and just under 4,000 inside the ground given there were almost 1,000 Hartlepool fans. Maybe the protest estimate was the top end of the range but there was a lot more than 500 I thought. Good few Hartlepool fans at the protest which I thought showed class. They were quite noisy at times during the game as well. Saw a video of them outside Upsteps in Oldham in good voice as well. Probably the best fans we've hosted for some time, takes a good effort to be heard in the Chaddy from the Rocky Road end but they made some noise, probably sounded even better stood in there, two bad teams though on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Yard Dog said: I don't think you could argue much with the estimate of around a 1,000 for the protest and just under 4,000 inside the ground given there were almost 1,000 Hartlepool fans. Maybe the protest estimate was the top end of the range but there was a lot more than 500 I thought. Good few Hartlepool fans at the protest which I thought showed class. They were quite noisy at times during the game as well. Saw a video of them outside Upsteps in Oldham in good voice as well. Probably the best fans we've hosted for some time, takes a good effort to be heard in the Chaddy from the Rocky Road end but they made some noise, probably sounded even better stood in there, two bad teams though on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, oafc 123 said: As a counter arguement to that, I bought 2 season ticket's last Tuesday and went yesterday Why would you do that ! Team bottom of the football league and arguably the poorest playing squad for decades and as at 5pm yesterday not having scored a league goal in over 4 1/2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, tGWB said: Why would you do that ! Team bottom of the football league and arguably the poorest playing squad for decades and as at 5pm yesterday not having scored a league goal in over 4 1/2 hours Madness takes all forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, al_bro said: I thought tickets were available online. I don't think clubs include ST holders when announcing the attendance. They are supposed to use the turnstile counters. Alan Hardy showed these to fans when we thought the numbers being announced were falsely low. Apparently they do - the chron/Oldham times reporter told me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 7 hours ago, oafc1955 said: I wasn’t there but looking at the JF & JR stands there didn’t look to be more than 1200 combined…was the main stand 3/4 full? All three home ends looked noticeably emptier than they have for the other league games this season, but I'd be very surprised if there wasn't close to 1,000 in each end. There always looks to be less than you'd imagine....I'm always surprised when a club like Colchester seem to being 14 fans to BP yet it gets announced as spmething like 120. Football fans of all clubs always seem to be obsessed with fiddling of attendance figures. I just don't think it happens these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dog Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 7 hours ago, oafc1955 said: I wasn’t there but looking at the JF & JR stands there didn’t look to be more than 1200 combined…was the main stand 3/4 full? All three home ends looked noticeably emptier than they have for the other league games this season, but I'd be very surprised if there wasn't close to 1,000 in each end. There always looks to be less than you'd imagine....I'm always surprised when a club like Colchester seem to being 14 fans to BP yet it gets announced as spmething like 120. Football fans of all clubs always seem to be obsessed with fiddling of attendance figures. I just don't think it happens these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogdenwoodwhittle Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Yard Dog said: All three home ends looked noticeably emptier than they have for the other league games this season, but I'd be very surprised if there wasn't close to 1,000 in each end. There always looks to be less than you'd imagine....I'm always surprised when a club like Colchester seem to being 14 fans to BP yet it gets announced as spmething like 120. Football fans of all clubs always seem to be obsessed with fiddling of attendance figures. I just don't think it happens these days. Probably doubled up on their posted figures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 2:17 PM, oafc1955 said: They surely have to be including the ST holders who’ve paid but aren’t bothering to go! On 9/19/2021 at 2:28 PM, Bobledgersheart said: I thought all clubs do this ? On 9/19/2021 at 2:57 PM, Chaddyexile84 said: They do - not sure on the logic with turnstile counters but they do On 9/19/2021 at 5:41 PM, al_bro said: I don't think clubs include ST holders when announcing the attendance. They are supposed to use the turnstile counters. Alan Hardy showed these to fans when we thought the numbers being announced were falsely low. Choosing to count ST holders who don’t attend is a club decision, some clubs do it and some don’t. We didn’t use to count them, but judging by the official attendance at previous games we appear to have started. Can’t think why. GMP periodically announce the actual attendance at games, it might need a Freedom of Information request. The BBC sometimes investigate too. The turnstile counters will need to be used for that. Apparently the FSF were pressuring clubs to release actual attendance figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Not all attendances are published in the Sunday papers nowadays, which is a bit strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 23 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: Not all attendances are published in the Sunday papers nowadays, which is a bit strange. I noticed in yesterdays paper that Burnley's attendance wasn't published. If a club counts all ST holders as attending a game. How do they differentiate between them and fans who have tickets scanned and pay on the day? Or are they just making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, al_bro said: I noticed in yesterdays paper that Burnley's attendance wasn't published. If a club counts all ST holders as attending a game. How do they differentiate between them and fans who have tickets scanned and pay on the day? Or are they just making it up. The system can produce reports filtering the various ticket types and whether a season ticket or not. It can also filter whether scanned or not so there really is no reason why clubs would include season ticket holders who didn’t go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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