Chaddyexile84 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Andy b said: Not sure where to post this but looking at Stockport tonight makes you realise where we are in the hierarchy. I know it’s a cup game with a full house but your can see their set up is a world away from our ours. Look at the quality of their sponsors for one. We are a relic. There are at least 10 teams at tier five which, quite frankly, are better equipped for professional football than us, ready to take our place. Our position in the football league is not a god given right. Relegation is not a desirable end but you are kidding yourself if you think our recovery will commence from a low of being bottom of the league. Any recovery will need to start from a much lower base. The worst is yet to come We had fans saying relegation would be a kick start in 1994 they said it in 1997 they said it 2009 - 2018 they still think relegation is is the answer in 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Relegation is not the answer. No matter what anyone says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossy52 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Relegation definitely not the answer looking at the stockport/ bolton game ! County have Madden and Quigley upfront , wish we had !!! We would struggle in that league without new owners prepared to invest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, rossy52 said: Relegation definitely not the answer looking at the stockport/ bolton game ! County have Madden and Quigley upfront , wish we had !!! We would struggle in that league without new owners prepared to invest Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, rossy52 said: Relegation definitely not the answer looking at the stockport/ bolton game ! County have Madden and Quigley upfront , wish we had !!! We would struggle in that league without new owners prepared to invest 2 up front, what a breath of fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 7 hours ago, maximus1267 said: Relegation is not the answer. No matter what anyone says. Very true. Of course it would be a very bad thing for the club to loose access to EFL payments etc. The average home crowd attendance would have to go up by somewhere around 1500 to 2000, just to stay on the same budget we have now. However unfortunately it may be the only thing which would trigger this Clown to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pidge said: However unfortunately it may be the only thing which would trigger this Clown to sell. Dont be so sure if its costing him less (wages etc) he may well hang on comes over as a very stubborn man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, peanuts2 said: Dont be so sure if its costing him less (wages etc) he may well hang on comes over as a very stubborn man Exactly their is nothing to suggest relegation will force him to sell then again their is nothing to suggest that staying in the football league will make him stay either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 5:40 AM, Pidge said: Very true. Of course it would be a very bad thing for the club to loose access to EFL payments etc. The average home crowd attendance would have to go up by somewhere around 1500 to 2000, just to stay on the same budget we have now. However unfortunately it may be the only thing which would trigger this Clown to sell. Of course it’s not the answer. But it feels almost inevitable at this point. We are stealing a living in league 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 5:40 AM, Pidge said: Very true. Of course it would be a very bad thing for the club to loose access to EFL payments etc. The average home crowd attendance would have to go up by somewhere around 1500 to 2000, just to stay on the same budget we have now. However unfortunately it may be the only thing which would trigger this Clown to sell. Doubt if he would sell then, he would have to pay out less wages while not losing face by keeping the club going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 hours ago, BP1960 said: Doubt if he would sell then, he would have to pay out less wages while not losing face by keeping the club going. Doubt wages would be much less, whilst ground maintenance, pension fund fees, taxman etc would remain constant, and broadcasting/solidarity payments would drop significantly, as well as income from both home, but also away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 5:40 AM, Pidge said: Very true. Of course it would be a very bad thing for the club to loose access to EFL payments etc. The average home crowd attendance would have to go up by somewhere around 1500 to 2000, just to stay on the same budget we have now. However unfortunately it may be the only thing which would trigger this Clown to sell. Finally- someone who gets it. It’s got nothing to do with wanting relegation or advocating relegation- or saying it’s the answer. It’s the only way he will sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, League one forever said: Finally- someone who gets it. It’s got nothing to do with wanting relegation or advocating relegation- or saying it’s the answer. It’s the only way he will sell. If someone with more money than sense, which applies to most owners of football clubs TBH, matches his valuation of the club I think he will sell. But as his valuation of the club is going to be a lot more than the club is worth (probably to the tune of a million ladies) unless an Oldham fan gets lucky somehow he’s not selling he club while it is in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, rudemedic said: If someone with more money than sense, which applies to most owners of football clubs TBH, matches his valuation of the club I think he will sell. But as his valuation of the club is going to be a lot more than the club is worth (probably to the tune of a million ladies) unless an Oldham fan gets lucky somehow he’s not selling he club while it is in the league. Absolutely bang on Rude. And most can’t see it. He wants his money back- so which sane person is giving him 6 million and then Blitz another 6 million. Absolutely laughable to think anyone would pay that. so the question is- do fans want to survive and exist at the bottom league two and hope this mysterious weird investor who wants to give away 12 million will turn up. Or get relegated and hope AL sells- which is far far more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 10 hours ago, League one forever said: Finally- someone who gets it. It’s got nothing to do with wanting relegation or advocating relegation- or saying it’s the answer. It’s the only way he will sell. But their is no proof to back this arguement up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: But their is no proof to back this arguement up. Or even circumstantial evidence. Anyone actively wanting relegation has a screw loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Or even circumstantial evidence. Anyone actively wanting relegation has a screw loose. Would someone care to explain why relegation means he will / is more likely to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Andy b said: Would someone care to explain why relegation means he will / is more likely to sell? Its just their opinions in the end, nothing to substantiate the theory. None of us know, only those who know, know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Relegation and we will never see the league again FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fervid said: Relegation and we will never see the league again FACT That’s not a fact. Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: But their is no proof to back this arguement up. Glossop, do you really expect proof when people are giving their opinion about what may happen in the future. Is it an “argument”? Obviously the club would better off still in and league with a new owner, but in my opinion AL will just get on with his other business abroad and just let the club struggle unless something changes. The club is having severe cash flow problems at the moment, I don’t see him sending his money to pay bills. Suddenly loosing the EFL money would clearly be a change that AL would have to acknowledge in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pidge said: Glossop, do you really expect proof when people are giving their opinion about what may happen in the future. Is it an “argument”? Obviously the club would better off still in and league with a new owner, but in my opinion AL will just get on with his other business abroad and just let the club struggle unless something changes. The club is having severe cash flow problems at the moment, I don’t see him sending his money to pay bills. Suddenly loosing the EFL money would clearly be a change that AL would have to acknowledge in some I have my opinons which differ from a few on here regarding the best outcome at the end of this season for us. But thats just my opinion based on me thinking going down can't have a good outcome and also based on me being a fan who doesnt want to see a further drop. I have no proof, evidence or facts that I am thinking correctly, and that also applies to those who feel relegation will force a quicker need to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, Pidge said: Glossop, do you really expect proof when people are giving their opinion about what may happen in the future. Is it an “argument”? Obviously the club would better off still in and league with a new owner, but in my opinion AL will just get on with his other business abroad and just let the club struggle unless something changes. The club is having severe cash flow problems at the moment, I don’t see him sending his money to pay bills. Suddenly loosing the EFL money would clearly be a change that AL would have to acknowledge in some way. I'd say if you put down an opinion then if you can back it up with evidence/facts then it strengthens the arguement significantly. So while I can see the logic that someone would want to sell if we went out of the football league as you have said above. However correct me if I'm wrong the Owner has not said he will sell if we go down. We are also trying to second guess a man who has spent 4 years making illogical decisions and has a pattern of volatile behaviour and is completely disengaged with the club and its fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Pidge said: Glossop, do you really expect proof when people are giving their opinion about what may happen in the future. Is it an “argument”? Obviously the club would better off still in and league with a new owner, but in my opinion AL will just get on with his other business abroad and just let the club struggle unless something changes. The club is having severe cash flow problems at the moment, I don’t see him sending his money to pay bills. Suddenly loosing the EFL money would clearly be a change that AL would have to acknowledge in some way. Just go part time. Problem solved, sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: Just go part time. Problem solved, sort of. Or watch a part time club, plenty of them around. Actually many are a more enjoyable match day experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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