BPAS PODCAST SEASON 2: 2nd May '22 Episode 82: Rip It Up & Start Again

[BPAS]

I hope to god you're not as dumb as you make out. I hope to god.  I hope to god.

 

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[basilrobbie]

Listened to this earlier today, and I thought it was one of the best in a very impressive series.

 

One of the interesting things for me was the recognition that relegation - though disastrous in itself - isn't necessarily the end of the fall. Andy really caught my attention from the beginning as he laid out the many-headed nature of the problem ; squad decimated, recruitment key, key parts of the infrastructure questionable or absent, quite apart from the acute worries about money. 

 

Equally, I thought everyone was very good at articulating why the current incumbents offer absolutely no evidence to suggest that they are up to the job that they face now.  To that extent, the (interesting) discussion about whether Sheridan has the skill set that he will need to do this particular job is something of a red herring for me. He starts with one hand tied behind his back, so how good he is seems a little besides the point. 

 

I think you may be surprised by how good the top half of this Division is. I've read a lot of comment from fans of clubs like Bristol Rovers that suggests that most of the clubs at the top would be pretty comfortable in L2. I think that is probably true. It doesn't help. 

 

I share Andy's view that people should be running out of reasons to continue underwriting this regime now. You've given them time, energy, money and passion and they have let you down very badly. You deserve far, far better, but to get it I think you are going to have to force a change, rather than wait for it.

[whittles left foot]

1 hour ago, basilrobbie said:

Equally, I thought everyone was very good at articulating why the current incumbents offer absolutely no evidence to suggest that they are up to the job that they face now.  To that extent, the (interesting) discussion about whether Sheridan has the skill set that he will need to do this particular job is something of a red herring for me. He starts with one hand tied behind his back, so how good he is seems a little besides the point. 

 

I share Andy's view that people should be running out of reasons to continue underwriting this regime now. You've given them time, energy, money and passion and they have let you down very badly. You deserve far, far better, but to get it I think you are going to have to force a change, rather than wait for it.

Do you think Sheridan signing up again with this ownership is underwriting this regime? I think it would be a really strong message to the owners if he walked.

[basilrobbie]

19 minutes ago, whittles left foot said:

Do you think Sheridan signing up again with this ownership is underwriting this regime? I think it would be a really strong message to the owners if he walked.

 

I think it is very hard to say.  Much of what he has said and done so far suggests that heart is struggling with head, as far as he is concerned. You will all  have a far better idea than me if what assurances he might have been given, and how likely he is to rely upon them.

 

I suppose the question I would put back to you is - do you think that he wants to play Oldham Athletic politics? He doesn't seem the type to me, but what do I know?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[whittles left foot]

43 minutes ago, basilrobbie said:

 

I think it is very hard to say.  Much of what he has said and done so far suggests that heart is struggling with head, as far as he is concerned. You will all  have a far better idea than me if what assurances he might have been given, and how likely he is to rely upon them.

 

I suppose the question I would put back to you is - do you think that he wants to play Oldham Athletic politics? He doesn't seem the type to me, but what do I know?

 

This is what I cannot fathom, for me if he signs up again it is a rejection of all the work PTBTrust /BPAS are trying to achieve, in effect an expression of support for this regime. 

He has done what's best for John and not the club once before when he upped sticks and went to Notts County.

[Magic Mikey]

3 minutes ago, whittles left foot said:

This is what I cannot fathom, for me if he signs up again it is a rejection of all the work PTBTrust /BPAS are trying to achieve, in effect an expression of support for this regime. 

He has done what's best for John and not the club once before when he upped sticks and went to Notts County.

I'm hoping he knows something we don't about changes to come. 

[peanuts2]

7 hours ago, Magic Mikey said:

I'm hoping he knows something we don't about changes to come. 

i think its a vain hope myself . i think he wants to try and make amends with HIS team rather than the bunch of missfits he inherited to try and bounce strait back suspect he has agreed a budget a retained list and a list of players he thinks he can get to attempt this without interference from almo whether this transpires we shall see .

 

[Dave_Og]

35 minutes ago, peanuts2 said:

i think its a vain hope myself . i think he wants to try and make amends with HIS team rather than the bunch of missfits he inherited to try and bounce strait back suspect he has agreed a budget a retained list and a list of players he thinks he can get to attempt this without interference from almo whether this transpires we shall see .

 

Retained list? It's barely our choice. 

[redlion]

20 hours ago, basilrobbie said:

Listened to this earlier today, and I thought it was one of the best in a very impressive series.

 

One of the interesting things for me was the recognition that relegation - though disastrous in itself - isn't necessarily the end of the fall. Andy really caught my attention from the beginning as he laid out the many-headed nature of the problem ; squad decimated, recruitment key, key parts of the infrastructure questionable or absent, quite apart from the acute worries about money. 

 

Equally, I thought everyone was very good at articulating why the current incumbents offer absolutely no evidence to suggest that they are up to the job that they face now.  To that extent, the (interesting) discussion about whether Sheridan has the skill set that he will need to do this particular job is something of a red herring for me. He starts with one hand tied behind his back, so how good he is seems a little besides the point. 

 

I think you may be surprised by how good the top half of this Division is. I've read a lot of comment from fans of clubs like Bristol Rovers that suggests that most of the clubs at the top would be pretty comfortable in L2. I think that is probably true. It doesn't help. 

 

I share Andy's view that people should be running out of reasons to continue underwriting this regime now. You've given them time, energy, money and passion and they have let you down very badly. You deserve far, far better, but to get it I think you are going to have to force a change, rather than wait for it.

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

[Monty Burns]

1 minute ago, redlion said:

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

l disagree wholeheartedly with this barry owen type ignorant, small mindedness.

l'm certain l am not alone.

You aren't contributing, Basil is.

it's patently obvious which out of the two of you needs to fuck off somewhere else.

[Magic Mikey]

57 minutes ago, redlion said:

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

You're going to be in a very small minority spouting that bollocks. I, for one, really appreciate his contributions. 

[Dave_Og]

1 hour ago, redlion said:

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

Yep, it's a right bastard having someone on here who has been through the wringer with his club and is willing to chip in with useful advice and information

[Worcester Owl]

2 hours ago, redlion said:

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

We can't always have what we want. I'd like you to disappear, and take ALMOBO with you.

[oafcmetty]

1 hour ago, Magic Mikey said:

You're going to be in a very small minority spouting that bollocks. I, for one, really appreciate his contributions. 

Notice that PeteG liked the post...

[Monty Burns]

20 minutes ago, oafcmetty said:

Notice that PeteG liked the post...

small things amuse small minds.

[Magic Mikey]

57 minutes ago, oafcmetty said:

Notice that PeteG liked the post...

As Monty said earlier, he's having an absolute fucking mare. 

[Matt]

On 5/2/2022 at 8:37 PM, basilrobbie said:

Listened to this earlier today, and I thought it was one of the best in a very impressive series.

 

One of the interesting things for me was the recognition that relegation - though disastrous in itself - isn't necessarily the end of the fall. Andy really caught my attention from the beginning as he laid out the many-headed nature of the problem ; squad decimated, recruitment key, key parts of the infrastructure questionable or absent, quite apart from the acute worries about money. 

 

Equally, I thought everyone was very good at articulating why the current incumbents offer absolutely no evidence to suggest that they are up to the job that they face now.  To that extent, the (interesting) discussion about whether Sheridan has the skill set that he will need to do this particular job is something of a red herring for me. He starts with one hand tied behind his back, so how good he is seems a little besides the point. 

 

I think you may be surprised by how good the top half of this Division is. I've read a lot of comment from fans of clubs like Bristol Rovers that suggests that most of the clubs at the top would be pretty comfortable in L2. I think that is probably true. It doesn't help. 

 

I share Andy's view that people should be running out of reasons to continue underwriting this regime now. You've given them time, energy, money and passion and they have let you down very badly. You deserve far, far better, but to get it I think you are going to have to force a change, rather than wait for it.

 

Thanks for your contribution to the community. Please try to ignore some of our more disruptive members.

[Chaddyexile84]

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

Thanks for your contribution to the community. Please try to ignore some of our more disruptive members.

 

You could always ban them 

[adamoafc]

4 hours ago, redlion said:

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

You utter idiot. Try growing up instead stupid comments like this. You and PeteG liking each other’s comments I wonder who’s account @redlion could be…..

[redlion]

1 minute ago, adamoafc said:

You utter idiot. Try growing up instead stupid comments like this. You and PeteG liking each other’s comments I wonder who’s account @redlion could be…..

Your grammar is very poor. Have you ever been to school ?

 

[Matt]

4 minutes ago, redlion said:

Your grammar is very poor. Have you ever been to school ?

 

 

You're not adding anything to this. Either let people talk about the issues in the topic and read the thread as it unfolds, debate the points constructively yourself, or move along.

[Magic Mikey]

37 minutes ago, redlion said:

Your grammar is very poor. Have you ever been to school ?

 

That should be school? 

[Mercater]

On 5/3/2022 at 5:16 PM, redlion said:

I really wish you would disappear from this forum. Go back to Blackpool and build sandcastles or something.

Keep contributing Basil, experience is invaluable at this time. Your contributions are welcomed by the thinking majority.

[basilrobbie]

34 minutes ago, Mercater said:

Keep contributing Basil, experience is invaluable at this time. Your contributions are welcomed by the thinking majority.

I've been thrown out of a Red Lion. I've no intentions of being thrown out BY one....

[Monty Burns]

On 5/3/2022 at 10:33 PM, Magic Mikey said:

That should be school? 

as an aside, l wonder, would you be intetested to know that in completely unrelated instances, l find it absolutely hilarious when somebody tries to be clever, but their actions only serve to further highlight distinct lack of natural intelligence? lt is one of my most favorite things on this planet.

(hope that ones ok)