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TheBigDog Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Listened to this just now. A few comments: The rebuilding of the club continues at a pace - and that has never been in doubt. The new owners and senior management are working hard towards this. Getting the right squad in place is a balancing act but he has brought in some better players. There is a playing budget but we are coming to the very end of that - still working hard to bring a couple of players in. Mellon talks the talk about what he wants from his teams and what he believes is needed for success. He understands why the fans are desperate for success. It’s a difficult league and he wants to win it - but last season we weren’t good enough -oh, and he still clings to the fact that we played some top teams in last season’s run in hence the poor finish to the season… This season is about improving… As a general comment, I thought that the tone of the podcast was too ‘chummy’ and not enough direct question were asked by Matt and Andy. (Eg. has he sat down and chatted with Reid, is he worried by the away defeats in pre-season, when does he expect Norwood and Garner to return, is he looking at bringing in a striker who can play the holdup role etc) My main takeaway from the answers given by manager and the CEO is that we are still work in progress both off and on the pitch. I wanted to come away from the podcast convinced that Mellon will get us playing winning football this season - I am not sure I did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Thanks again for the pod, great to have it back and make the Monday slightly easier. The biggest discussion for me was surrounding the culture of the club. It is without a doubt the hardest thing to change, made even harder by our recent history and decline. As a fanbase, we need to be aware of this ongoing culture shift. It is so easy to get heated, especially on match days. But we need to think of the bigger picture and our input into slowly turning what was a sinking ship around. Fingers crossed for the first few games of the season, as the knives will be out if not. Which is a huge shame. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmb Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Would be nice of Micky to tell us he's got players lined up and not tell us "recruitment never stops" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Listened to this just now. A few comments: The rebuilding of the club continues at a pace - and that has never been in doubt. The new owners and senior management are working hard towards this. Getting the right squad in place is a balancing act but he has brought in some better players. There is a playing budget but we are coming to the very end of that - still working hard to bring a couple of players in. Mellon talks the talk about what he wants from his teams and what he believes is needed for success. He understands why the fans are desperate for success. It’s a difficult league and he wants to win it - but last season we weren’t good enough -oh, and he still clings to the fact that we played some top teams in last season’s run in hence the poor finish to the season… This season is about improving… As a general comment, I thought that the tone of the podcast was too ‘chummy’ and not enough direct question were asked by Matt and Andy. (Eg. has he sat down and chatted with Reid, is he worried by the away defeats in pre-season, when does he expect Norwood and Garner to return, is he looking at bringing in a striker who can play the holdup role etc) My main takeaway from the answers given by manager and the CEO is that we are still work in progress both off and on the pitch. I wanted to come away from the podcast convinced that Mellon will get us playing winning football this season - I am not sure I did. They did ask the Reid question. But Mellon confirmed he hadn’t spoken to him directly, which is even more strange. Get the sense Reid is off based on his comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 People at the top seem far too comfortable with our current status. If we are coming to the end of the budget then it isn't the same as last season as previously stated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 8 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: They did ask the Reid question. But Mellon confirmed he hadn’t spoken to him directly, which is even more strange. Get the sense Reid is off based on his comments. Very strange indeed -MM spoke earlier about the difficult conversations you sometimes have as a manager…or you could just not bother to speak to the player at all I suppose… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradKnowles1 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 It was an interesting listen however, Ive not come away excited about the season. the only really thing which annoyed me was Mellon saying it was not a collapse. It was a collapse. We couldn’t beat Oxford and teams on the beach like Dagenham and Fylde. we’ve got to trust In Micky that he will deliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoutsider Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: Very strange indeed -MM spoke earlier about the difficult conversations you sometimes have as a manager…or you could just not bother to speak to the player at all I suppose… This is mentioned in Paul Mullins book… he was at Tranmere with MM (and Norwood) Speaks highly of Norwood, not such much MM who when he wasn’t in the team just ignored him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: This season is about improving… As a general comment, I thought that the tone of the podcast was too ‘chummy’ and not enough direct question were asked by Matt and Andy. (Eg. has he sat down and chatted with Reid, is he worried by the away defeats in pre-season, when does he expect Norwood and Garner to return, is he looking at bringing in a striker who can play the holdup role etc) My main takeaway from the answers given by manager and the CEO is that we are still work in progress both off and on the pitch. I wanted to come away from the podcast convinced that Mellon will get us playing winning football this season - I am not sure I did. I dunno - I think the tone was fine. It's supposed to be a fairly light-hearted podcast and the questions were framed quite well. They don't want to piss the club off, because they won't be able to go in again.. You're right in that the signs are that this is not going to be a particularly exciting season, if mere "improvement" is the aim. It seems like we're rebuilding after 30 years of decline and doing a secondary rebuild after the cock-up with recruitment over the past couple of years. How long will the rebuild take?? It looks from the outside that everything is in place now for us to be successful... Interesting what Mellon said about wingers. The fact that such players just don't really exist any more is a bit of a shame, really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, JoeP said: I dunno - I think the tone was fine. It's supposed to be a fairly light-hearted podcast and the questions were framed quite well. They don't want to piss the club off, because they won't be able to go in again.. You're right in that the signs are that this is not going to be a particularly exciting season, if mere "improvement" is the aim. It seems like we're rebuilding after 30 years of decline and doing a secondary rebuild after the cock-up with recruitment over the past couple of years. How long will the rebuild take?? It looks from the outside that everything is in place now for us to be successful... Interesting what Mellon said about wingers. The fact that such players just don't really exist any more is a bit of a shame, really. Hopefully what Williams and Yamal showed at the Euros sparks a resurgence in wing play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 43 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Hopefully what Williams and Yamal showed at the Euros sparks a resurgence in wing play Best winger I’ve seen at Latics was Ricky Holden - and we’ve had a few good ones in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Interesting take that because our name was mud, it prevented us from using the loan system effectively. Iversen, Lang, Surridge, Clarke, Mcalmont were some of our best players in recent years from top clubs such as Leicester, Wigan, Bournemouth, Arsenal and Leeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, PeteG said: Interesting take that because our name was mud, it prevented us from using the loan system effectively. Iversen, Lang, Surridge, Clarke, Mcalmont were some of our best players in recent years from top clubs such as Leicester, Wigan, Bournemouth, Arsenal and Leeds. I thought that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Thanks lads, great to have the pod back. Really enjoyed it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 47 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: I thought that too! Yes, me too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, PeteG said: Interesting take that because our name was mud, it prevented us from using the loan system effectively. Iversen, Lang, Surridge, Clarke, Mcalmont were some of our best players in recent years from top clubs such as Leicester, Wigan, Bournemouth, Arsenal and Leeds. Quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, PeteG said: Interesting take that because our name was mud, it prevented us from using the loan system effectively. Iversen, Lang, Surridge, Clarke, Mcalmont were some of our best players in recent years from top clubs such as Leicester, Wigan, Bournemouth, Arsenal and Leeds. Iversen, Lang, and Surridge all signed for Bunn, it was the second season of AL when money was still being spent, and the absolute shit show it would become wasn’t widely known. As time went on, and things got worse and worse we signed no one near that level on loan if at all. Matt Summarised that with our past reputation it will have been difficult to get loan players in, (which it was) and asked if that’s improving now. Which it clearly is with Stones (Wigan) and Sav (Sheff Utd) It was fair question based on the last two seasons of AL and the reputational damage he caused the club. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, League one forever said: Iversen, Lang, and Surridge all signed for Bunn, it was the second season of AL when money was still being spent, and the absolute shit show it would become wasn’t widely known. As time went on, and things got worse and worse we signed no one near that level on loan if at all. Matt Summarised that with our past reputation it will have been difficult to get loan players in, (which it was) and asked if that’s improving now. Which it clearly is with Stones (Wigan) and Sav (Sheff Utd) It was fair question based on the last two seasons of AL and the reputational damage he caused the club. It's bullshit really, I'm sick to death of everything bring blamed on the previous regime, it's just a get out for those at the club now who are not performing be that the CEO, manager, whoever. We are a full two years on yet still keep referencing it, it's tedious now. Can we please stop bringing up past reputations because it's just not relevant, does anybody actually think anyone within the game isn't aware that the club is now being run in the right way?, we may struggle to bring loanees in but that is probably more to do with the style of football we play than anything else, it certainly isn't because the place is a shit show. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 7 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: It's bullshit really, I'm sick to death of everything bring blamed on the previous regime, it's just a get out for those at the club now who are not performing be that the CEO, manager, whoever. We are a full two years on yet still keep referencing it, it's tedious now. Can we please stop bringing up past reputations because it's just not relevant, does anybody actually think anyone within the game isn't aware that the club is now being run in the right way?, we may struggle to bring loanees in but that is probably more to do with the style of football we play than anything else, it certainly isn't because the place is a shit show. I don’t disagree with you, just stating the fact. It was difficult. Now it isn’t. On your wider point, I think the boys are trying to give us an overview of the progress being made in relation to where we were. That won’t wash for many because all some care about is winning games, which I can understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 that was ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only Blue Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 22 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: It's bullshit really, I'm sick to death of everything bring blamed on the previous regime, it's just a get out for those at the club now who are not performing be that the CEO, manager, whoever. We are a full two years on yet still keep referencing it, it's tedious now. Can we please stop bringing up past reputations because it's just not relevant, does anybody actually think anyone within the game isn't aware that the club is now being run in the right way?, we may struggle to bring loanees in but that is probably more to do with the style of football we play than anything else, it certainly isn't because the place is a shit show. It's a shame for you because it means you are going to have to stay sick to death then because it is true. There is still a lot of stuff lingering from that time. I have a dislike of certain clubs because the way their fans behaved in the 80s, even though those guys are probably dead now, so reputations can stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I've not listened the pod yet, but I believe in the four (three plus Covid) full seasons we had under Abdallah we had players on loan from 26 clubs. Only United gave us a second player after a proper first spell (Salford giving Dieseruvwe and Pidge within a few days of each other) and Franchise loaning Walker twice. The fact none of the following would give us a second player (assuming we were interested given we were on the beg for anyone for much of the time) says a bit for reputation: AFC Bournemouth Arsenal Aston Villa Blackpool Bristol City Burnley Coventry Crawley Doncaster Leeds Leicester Nottingham Forest Peterborough Plymouth QPR Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday Swansea Tottenham West Brom West Ham Wigan Wrexham 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 41 minutes ago, jsslatic said: I've not listened the pod yet, but I believe in the four (three plus Covid) full seasons we had under Abdallah we had players on loan from 26 clubs. Only United gave us a second player after a proper first spell (Salford giving Dieseruvwe and Pidge within a few days of each other) and Franchise loaning Walker twice. The fact none of the following would give us a second player (assuming we were interested given we were on the beg for anyone for much of the time) says a bit for reputation: AFC Bournemouth Arsenal Aston Villa Blackpool Bristol City Burnley Coventry Crawley Doncaster Leeds Leicester Nottingham Forest Peterborough Plymouth QPR Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday Swansea Tottenham West Brom West Ham Wigan Wrexham Nice research but it means absolutely nothing that we didn't have a second player from them, there could be a whole host of reasons for that including the one you mentioned that we may not even have been interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 56 minutes ago, Only Blue said: It's a shame for you because it means you are going to have to stay sick to death then because it is true. There is still a lot of stuff lingering from that time. I have a dislike of certain clubs because the way their fans behaved in the 80s, even though those guys are probably dead now, so reputations can stick. Go on then hit me with it, what's lingering and holding us back other than those it suits dragging it up. What have we spent then?, about £20 million - and we can't yet look forward. It's no wonder the clubs incapable of moving on with that mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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