MotM - Barnet (a) - 09/10/24

[Stevie_J]

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[yarddog73]

Probably the easiest decision this season.

[PlayItLivo]

Monthe for me. 

[Stevie_J]

19 minutes ago, PlayItLivo said:

Monthe for me. 

Went for Hudson, despite his poor kicking, because of the importance of his two saves but Monthe would have been my next choice. 

[BP1960]

That the midfield and strikers got at total of no votes tells the story.

 

 

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

Hudson for me, closely followed by Raglan and Monthe. He's had detractors but the only howler he's been guilty of has been Halifax away. He was solid here and pulled two brilliant stops off to keep us in the match.

[BP1960]

I thought Ogle set an example of tenacity while the midfield hardly had a kick.

I still think he could play as a ball winning midfielder, but MM is never going to drop the often ineffective Conlon.

[Dave_Og]

10 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

I thought Ogle set an example of tenacity while the midfield hardly had a kick.

I still think he could play as a ball winning midfielder, but MM is never going to drop the often ineffective Conlon.

One week you're accusing Mellon of playing square pegs in round holes. After several seasons of not having a decent right back we've got one, and you want to play him in midfield. Sorry, but IMO that's nonsensical. What would we do, put Sutton back at right back? Or just sign more and more players in search of perfection...in Division Five?

[LightDN123]

26 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

I thought Ogle set an example of tenacity while the midfield hardly had a kick.

I still think he could play as a ball winning midfielder, but MM is never going to drop the often ineffective Conlon.

Why on earth would we do that BP. Ridiculous suggestion 

[BP1960]

3 hours ago, LightDN123 said:

Why on earth would we do that BP. Ridiculous suggestion 

 

Its an opinion after seeing him drive into midfield and winning the ball. You cannot say its ridiculous as its never been tried.

Like saying back in the day it was ridiculous when Ian Wood was moved from centre forward to full back, Maurice Whittle and Ken Knighton midfield/ full back and vice versa and many more examples.  What would their careers have been like if they had stayed in their original positions where they were unsuccessful ?  Ogle has played in midfield before, its no stranger to him.

He's playing centre back at the moment, who'd have thought that ridiculous move would work? Not yourself obviously.

Edited November 10, 2024 by BP1960

[LightDN123]

6 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Its an opinion after seeing him drive into midfield and winning the ball. You cannot say its ridiculous as its never been tried.

Like saying back in the day it was ridiculous when Ian Wood was moved from centre forward to full back, Maurice Whittle and Ken Knighton midfield/ full back and vice versa and many more examples.  What would their careers have been like if they had stayed in their original positions where they were unsuccessful ?  Ogle has played in midfield before, its no stranger to him.

He's playing centre back at the moment, who'd have thought that ridiculous move would work? Not yourself obviously.

He is playing as a right centre back in a 3 which allows him to get forward. 
 

We don’t need to be playing our right back in holding midfield for no apparent reason. We have plenty of options in midfield. 

[BP1960]

Just now, LightDN123 said:

He is playing as a right centre back in a 3 which allows him to get forward. 
 

We don’t need to be playing our right back in holding midfield for no apparent reason. We have plenty of options in midfield. 

 

The midfield is poor the options have proved worse.  But if you are happy that's ok.

[LightDN123]

Clucas, Conlon, Gardner, Lundstram, Dolan, Hammond, Khan, Payne should all have enough between them. 
 

Edit as forgot the best of the lot, Charsley.

Edited November 10, 2024 by LightDN123

[OneSizeFitz]

16 hours ago, BP1960 said:

 

Its an opinion after seeing him drive into midfield and winning the ball. You cannot say its ridiculous as its never been tried.

Like saying back in the day it was ridiculous when Ian Wood was moved from centre forward to full back, Maurice Whittle and Ken Knighton midfield/ full back and vice versa and many more examples.  What would their careers have been like if they had stayed in their original positions where they were unsuccessful ?  Ogle has played in midfield before, its no stranger to him.

He's playing centre back at the moment, who'd have thought that ridiculous move would work? Not yourself obviously.

 

Nor you, apparently... 

 

On 10/5/2024 at 5:15 PM, BP1960 said:

Ogle was found out at centre back today, positionaly terrible. 

Time for this experiment to end and go 4 at the back. 

 

[Worcester Owl]

On 11/10/2024 at 6:45 PM, Dave_Og said:

One week you're accusing Mellon of playing square pegs in round holes. After several seasons of not having a decent right back we've got one, and you want to play him in midfield. Sorry, but IMO that's nonsensical. What would we do, put Sutton back at right back? Or just sign more and more players in search of perfection...in Division Five?

A crunching tackle there, but I agree with you. 

 

@BP1960, I'm not sure your assessment of our midfield and strikers based on one game - and that a decent point at a promotion rival - is fair. Don't forget, as pointed out above, Charsley is still to come back. Also, Saturday was the first league game since Oxford away near the end of last season where we've failed to score - 18 games in a row, we found the net. Keep calm!

[spanishfly]

On 11/10/2024 at 6:32 PM, BP1960 said:

I thought Ogle set an example of tenacity while the midfield hardly had a kick.

I still think he could play as a ball winning midfielder, but MM is never going to drop the often ineffective Conlon.

I think Ogle is doing very well where he is BP but I nod in some agreement at your view on Conlon. It's all a bit mystifying presently. People keep stringing out names of "good"

midfielders and forwards with comments that we have plenty of options/a great squad etc. BUT we are still not ripping up any trees yet. We are just about keeping up with teams we should be well ahead of. The owner has ploughed in an absolute fortune and it's time he was repaid properly. We are doing alright but need to step up a gear if we are to achieve promotion. It's time  the show ponies showed us some consistent, fine form. A statistic that doesn't augur well is that in 17 league games to date, we have scored more than one goal in only 6 of them.  So, that's 11 league games (or 65% of matches) where we have scored one goal or less. 

 

We need to batter a couple of teams 5 or 6 nil to instil more confidence, set down a marker and make the stay away fans want to come back. People say we have the players to do it; so let's see it please.

 

No better time to start than on Saturday. It will still be like "after the Lord Mayor's Parade" for Tamworth after their giant killing exploits against Huddersfield in the cup. They only managed a home draw against rock bottom Ebbsfleet on Saturday so I fully expect to see our first real drubbing of a team this weekend.

 

Let the shackles off, MM and go for it!

[Worcester Owl]

3 hours ago, spanishfly said:

I think Ogle is doing very well where he is BP but I nod in some agreement at your view on Conlon. It's all a bit mystifying presently. People keep stringing out names of "good"

midfielders and forwards with comments that we have plenty of options/a great squad etc. BUT we are still not ripping up any trees yet. We are just about keeping up with teams we should be well ahead of. The owner has ploughed in an absolute fortune and it's time he was repaid properly. We are doing alright but need to step up a gear if we are to achieve promotion. It's time  the show ponies showed us some consistent, fine form. A statistic that doesn't augur well is that in 17 league games to date, we have scored more than one goal in only 6 of them.  So, that's 11 league games (or 65% of matches) where we have scored one goal or less. 

 

We need to batter a couple of teams 5 or 6 nil to instil more confidence, set down a marker and make the stay away fans want to come back. People say we have the players to do it; so let's see it please.

 

No better time to start than on Saturday. It will still be like "after the Lord Mayor's Parade" for Tamworth after their giant killing exploits against Huddersfield in the cup. They only managed a home draw against rock bottom Ebbsfleet on Saturday so I fully expect to see our first real drubbing of a team this weekend.

 

Let the shackles off, MM and go for it!

Doing alright is faint praise indeed. We've lost 1 of the last 13 league games and have won 6 of the last 9. We are just over a third of the way through the season and are 5th, 7 points behind the leaders. There is a very long way to go and I am relaxed about our position and prospects. Beating any team at any level by 5 or 6 goals rarely happens. Expecting us to do so is unrealistic and sounds a bit akin to regarding some teams as leisure centres, etc.

 

[spanishfly]

4 hours ago, Worcester Owl said:

Doing alright is faint praise indeed. We've lost 1 of the last 13 league games and have won 6 of the last 9. We are just over a third of the way through the season and are 5th, 7 points behind the leaders. There is a very long way to go and I am relaxed about our position and prospects. Beating any team at any level by 5 or 6 goals rarely happens. Expecting us to do so is unrealistic and sounds a bit akin to regarding some teams as leisure centres, etc.

 

After circa £15M of investment, we lag well behind the mighty York City and Forest Green Rovers in non league.

 

It really is time for fans to wake up; we need to get out of this dreadful league this season; stop accepting good, we should be the best amongst this dross!

Edited November 13, 2024 by spanishfly

[nzlatic]

6 hours ago, spanishfly said:

After circa £15M of investment, we lag well behind the mighty York City and Forest Green Rovers in non league.

 

It really is time for fans to wake up; we need to get out of this dreadful league this season; stop accepting good, we should be the best amongst this dross!

What do you mean fans need to wake up? What do we need to do?

[oafcmetty]

1 hour ago, nzlatic said:

What do you mean fans need to wake up? What do we need to do?

More booing when we draw.

[Worcester Owl]

15 hours ago, spanishfly said:

After circa £15M of investment, we lag well behind the mighty York City and Forest Green Rovers in non league.

 

It really is time for fans to wake up; we need to get out of this dreadful league this season; stop accepting good, we should be the best amongst this dross!

How much of that £15m, if that's an accurate figure, has gone on players as opposed to buying the club/ground/infratstructure/staff?

 

How much have York and FGR's owners spent on their clubs over the last few seasons?

[mcfluff]

On 11/11/2024 at 3:05 PM, OneSizeFitz said:

 

Nor you, apparently... 

 

 

 

How dare you question his eye

 

On 11/13/2024 at 1:33 AM, spanishfly said:

After circa £15M of investment, we lag well behind the mighty York City and Forest Green Rovers in non league.

 

It really is time for fans to wake up; we need to get out of this dreadful league this season; stop accepting good, we should be the best amongst this dross!

 

Always the same. Never changes

[TwistingMyMellon]

On 11/13/2024 at 1:33 AM, spanishfly said:

It really is time for fans to wake up

 

Yep. I'm going to write to my MP. This can't go on.

[Guy Branston Pickle]

On 11/10/2024 at 6:32 PM, BP1960 said:

I thought Ogle set an example of tenacity while the midfield hardly had a kick.

I still think he could play as a ball winning midfielder, but MM is never going to drop the often ineffective Conlon.

Christ almighty

[mcfluff]

2 hours ago, Guy Branston Pickle said:

Christ almighty

Great that isn't. Especially when compared with his insights from not so long ago