Dave_Og Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 After the last thirty years we Latics fans are entitled to be cynical and pessimistic, but we clearly have a decent team. Post the slump at the end of last season i was unconvinced that Mellon was the man. But it's time to admit I WAS WRONG. And given Lundstram's apparent inability to settle at a bigger club I really didn't think he'd deliver but, again, I WAS WRONG. Who else wants to admit THEY WERE WRONG about something or someone? Come on, let it out. You'll feel better for it, catharsis is a great thing! 6 Quote
JoeP Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 Nah, I'm right about everything. It's a blessing and a curse... 3 Quote
Dave_Og Posted November 27, 2024 Author Posted November 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, JoeP said: Nah, I'm right about everything. It's a blessing and a curse... Give us next week's lottery numbers! Quote
yarddog73 Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I'm wrong pretty often unlike my mate Rob @deyres42 who gets ALL the big calls right..... My latest nugget being my apprehension about the signing of Clucas who I thought would be restricted by age and injury, he's been outstanding since he came in and is the player we've been crying out for to control the game. 3 Quote
JoeP Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 Wasn't convinced Lundstram had it in him last year to make it here. Been proven wrong and then some.. Quote
GlossopLatic Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 (edited) I have an optimism bias so I'm feeling hugely vindicated in some of my thoughts right now. I did think after the signings made in January we would atleast get into the play offs last year but we clearly weren't yet ready. I also did think that we had some half decent players last season and if we surrounded them with the right signings then we would be in with a real chance this season as they would lift the level of the players currently here. Raglan, Fondop, Kitching, and Conlon look better players in this team. However I like the rest of you didn't think we'd see this trajectory of improvement in Josh Lundstrum, I did think he'd get better but not to the level where he is now one of the first names on the team sheet. I still think we'll finish 4th or 5th we won't keep battering teams 4-0 at home for the rest of the season we will probably see a dip. I hope I'm wrong with this prediction too and we go and challenge for the league. Edited November 27, 2024 by GlossopLatic 1 Quote
TheBigDog Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 It’s too early to be admitting anything… ask me again in May Quote
ceskylatic Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 10 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: It’s too early to be admitting anything… ask me again in May I think it’s clear to most. Some people just can’t admit they were wrong. Quote
Worcester Owl Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 21 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: It’s too early to be admitting anything… ask me again in May Tbf, @Dave_Og is saying we are a decent team, and MM and Lundstram are delivering. He's not predicting anything. He's 100% correct. 3 Quote
Dick_Valentine Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I’m a bloke, I’m never wrong… Yeah okay, Josh Lundstram has certainly proved me wrong as most of the good folk that sit near me like to point out. He’s alright isn’t he. Quote
daniel Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I think the vast majority can admit to being wrong about Lundstram, myself included. I don’t think anyone thought he’d become the player he seems to becoming here. I say becoming because he now needs to do it for a prolonged period, which I’m sure he will do. Massive credit to MM and the coaching staff, and Lundstram himself for putting the obvious work in that has made him one of the better number 10’s in the league. Quote
Dave_Og Posted November 27, 2024 Author Posted November 27, 2024 48 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: I have an optimism bias so I'm feeling hugely vindicated in some of my thoughts right now. I did think after the signings made in January we would atleast get into the play offs last year but we clearly weren't yet ready. I also did think that we had some half decent players last season and if we surrounded them with the right signings then we would be in with a real chance this season as they would lift the level of the players currently here. Raglan, Fondop, Kitching, and Conlon look better players in this team. However I like the rest of you didn't think we'd see this trajectory of improvement in Josh Lundstrum, I did think he'd get better but not to the level where he is now one of the first names on the team sheet. I still think we'll finish 4th or 5th we won't keep battering teams 4-0 at home for the rest of the season we will probably see a dip. I hope I'm wrong with this prediction too and we go and challenge for the league. You can't have an optimism bias and think there's a a 50% chance we'll finish lower in the league than we are now! That's a sanguinity bias... Quote
dannyboy55555 Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I was wrong a few weeks ago about James Norwood. I really thought he couldn't be arsed. 3 Quote
South West Blue Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 Putting Walsall to win on my Acca last night and it costing me over £500 - I WAS WRONG. Quote
JoeP Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 Just now, dannyboy55555 said: I was wrong a few weeks ago about James Norwood. I really thought he couldn't be arsed. Well no, you were right back then. He's just upped his game since Nandos-gate! Quote
Bobledgersheart Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I've only ever been wrong on one occasion when I thought I was wrong but found out later I was in fact right !! Quote
disjointed Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I know it's a wrong thread, but I always said Lundstram would be a good player for us. I was wrong about Fondop but I owned up to this a while ago. Quote
GlossopLatic Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 52 minutes ago, JoeP said: Well no, you were right back then. He's just upped his game since Nandos-gate! Nah he was just getting back to full fitness having missed an entire pre season you were foolish to write him off. 2 Quote
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 Always felt that once we sorted our midfield out performances on a whole would follow. The signings we've made since MM joined, on a whole, have been top notch. We've established a playing identity and don't look to harbour too many chinks in our armour. The ability to match the best in the division and clinically put away the cannon fodder is evident. We've set our standards now. The next step is keeping our key performers injury free, resting them when the opportunity presents itself and we could surge ahead at the top. If anything, I hope this buys MM some time whenever we do see a temporary dip in form. Last season, it seemed as soon as anything went wrong such as a badly mis-placed pass or the defence parting meekly for the opposition to stroll through us and score, you could feel the atmosphere change. I didn't get this same vibe when passes went awry last night so you can feel change is happening. Long may that continue. 1 Quote
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 58 minutes ago, JoeP said: Well no, you were right back then. He's just upped his game since Nandos-gate! It does help massively having a player alongside him who is at least remotely on the same wavelength and provides the energy and tenacity to pull defenders around which creates space for Norwood to thrive. I think you have to acknowledge that, based on recent performances (and the Stones loan period last season). Quote
LightDN123 Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 I think Kitching is the biggest turn around player. He looked an absolute state the back half of last year. Lundstram always looked okay technically. For some reason we pissed around with him as a holding midfielder for a while. He is best driving at the opposition. His final ball could do with improvement, but he seemed to have improved last night. 1 Quote
JoeP Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 17 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Nah he was just getting back to full fitness having missed an entire pre season you were foolish to write him off. OK. And the excuse last season? Quote
JoeP Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 13 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: It does help massively having a player alongside him who is at least remotely on the same wavelength and provides the energy and tenacity to pull defenders around which creates space for Norwood to thrive. I think you have to acknowledge that, based on recent performances (and the Stones loan period last season). We'll never know, but I think his improvement's more to do with Mellon's management than his team-mates... Quote
Guy Branston Pickle Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, JoeP said: We'll never know, but I think his improvement's more to do with Mellon's management than his team-mates... He absolutely looks better playing off Stones tbh, you could see last night how much space Stones's hassling of the CBs was leaving him. Was the same in the short spell they had together last season. Agree with everyone r.e. Lundstram, really glad MM has stuck with him and kept faith as it's paying dividends now. Hope I'm not jinxing it but this looks like the first proper good, functioning midfield we've had for donkeys years, no coincidence the results are improving at the same time. 2 Quote
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