boundaryblue80 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) Just thought it was a nice time of the season to open discussion now the playoffs are almost amongst us.... My soft spot is for the currently choking NY Mets (seemed clear winners of their division until a complete collapse and now in danger of giving up the title as the Phillies drew level last night). I see the Mets as the Latics of Baseball....a team with little success, putting together a squad on less than most others spend, living in the shadows of the arrogant NYY (the Red Scum of Baseball) and the Boston Red Sox (the Man S.h.i.t.t.y of Baseball) who bemoan their lack of success and talk about their divine right to win the World Series (all up until the other year, when they did so for the first time in almost 100yrs). Colorado are the red hot form team at present though with 11 wins in a row (an amazing feat in Baseball) bringing them from nowhere to within a chance of taking their division or playoff spot. Still in 3rd place, 2 wins behind Arizona in 1st, their last 3 games are at home vs Arizona.....that should be a cracker. Anyone fancying a bet might be interested in the 12/1 you can get on Colorado to win the World Series at the moment. Amazing form and decent odds! Others in-form include... New York Yankees who started off the season badly and several times blew 5 run leads. Now won 7 in last 10 and getting form at the wrong end of the season, if you can't stand them! the Phillies (Won 11 in last 14) who should make the playoffs even if they don't catch the Mets for the division title, but one of the worst teams in Baseball Washington Nationals have somehow won 4 on the bounce so might cause a big upset and the Milwaukee Brewers, who look like they might miss out if the Chicago Cubs can stumble home vs Cinnicinati (who the Cubs ended their chances of getting to Post-season) San Diego (who are in the 3-way race with Arizona and Colorado - 1 will end up missing out) who incidently face Milwaukee who are chasing the Cubs, so must win. As always though, the money men of the LA Angels (Won 5 from last 10) and the Red Sox (Won 4 from last 10) will probably come good in post-season despite their recent patchy form. Should be fun....if you like your Baseball! Edited September 28, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I used to follow Cleveland, not watched it for ages until very recently on NASN. I haven't a clue who plays for who these days. I remember Sandy Alomar, Chuck Nagy, Julio Franco - that's about it from the Indians outfit. I think the big players from that era were Roberto Alomar, Ken Griffey Jr, Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken Jr, Jeff Bagwell (on all sorts of steroids and enhancers - but who wasn't back then), Mike Piazza, Greg Maddux, and a guy from The Mariners who had a very strange name - it escapes me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) I used to follow Cleveland, not watched it for ages until very recently on NASN. I haven't a clue who plays for who these days. I remember Sandy Alomar, Chuck Nagy, Julio Franco - that's about it from the Indians outfit. I think the big players from that era were Roberto Alomar, Ken Griffey Jr, Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken Jr, Jeff Bagwell (on all sorts of steroids and enhancers - but who wasn't back then), Mike Piazza, Greg Maddux, and a guy from The Mariners who had a very strange name - it escapes me... To be honest, I forgot to mention Cleveland who are also in form....they're tying with the Red Sox on most wins (94 win) up to tonight.....and had won 7 from 8 games, until they lost their last 2 games to Seattle. Wonder if they're resting players now they've clinched their division. Regarding players, I only tend to pick up the Baseball at this end of the season and that makes it difficult to remember who is where, especially when they've moved teams. Where the Mets are concerned, Wright's been reliable all season and Beltran and Delgado's backed him up with runs. Reyes seems to be picking up his averages too lately....it's the pitching thats costing the side. Only Perez who's reliable (although, ironically, he's pitching tonight and given up 2 runs in 1st inning!)....can't see the Mets doing much if they do make post-season....big if too, just gone 2 runs down vs Florida. If the Mets don't do owt, the run Colorado on makes me want to see them take on the big boys and beat them. Mind you, as I say, with Clevelands record, they've got a good shout. Might have to have a nosey at their odds. Edited September 28, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 Cleveland look decent at odds of 8/1...just spotted Colorado at 18/1 with Sporting Bet....but they won't be if they win the 1st game vs Arizona tonight....time to get me a few streams of games on www.myp2p.eu (can I post that addy? Sorry if I'm not meant to.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I've just recently finished reading a book called 'Love That Dirty Water: The Standells and the Improbable Red Sox Victory Anthem' which is about the 60s song 'Dirty Water' by The Standells and how it has become the song which is played after the Boston Red Sox win. The book is basically a history of The Standells, The Red Sox and the City of Boston (the great molasses flood of 1919 sounds a horrible way to die!) I bought the book as a fan of 60s garage music (of which Dirty Water is a classic). I am also in contact with a Boston Red Sox fan after selling him a signed Housemartins picture through ebay. As a result of this, whilst knowing nothing about baseball, I have developed a soft spot for the Red Sox, even comparing them to Latics in a recent email - the long gap between 'World Series' wins (he sees the stupidity of calling it that, by the way) being similar to Latics gap between top flight appearances (1918-2004 for the Red Sox). As I say, I know nothing about baseball, but please refrain from comparing them to Citeh Go Red Sox I love that Dirty Water Oh Boston you're my home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Cleveland look decent at odds of 8/1...just spotted Colorado at 18/1 with Sporting Bet....but they won't be if they win the 1st game vs Arizona tonight....time to get me a few streams of games on www.myp2p.eu (can I post that addy? Sorry if I'm not meant to.) Streaming links are okay. We've got a few similar links elsewhere, something for the overseas exiles with Sopcast. Just don't spam the link, or add it in your sig. Posting up links for Warez, Keygens, Cracks, or/and posting serials is off limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) I've just recently finished reading a book called 'Love That Dirty Water: The Standells and the Improbable Red Sox Victory Anthem' which is about the 60s song 'Dirty Water' by The Standells and how it has become the song which is played after the Boston Red Sox win. The book is basically a history of The Standells, The Red Sox and the City of Boston (the great molasses flood of 1919 sounds a horrible way to die!) I bought the book as a fan of 60s garage music (of which Dirty Water is a classic). I am also in contact with a Boston Red Sox fan after selling him a signed Housemartins picture through ebay. As a result of this, whilst knowing nothing about baseball, I have developed a soft spot for the Red Sox, even comparing them to Latics in a recent email - the long gap between 'World Series' wins (he sees the stupidity of calling it that, by the way) being similar to Latics gap between top flight appearances (1918-2004 for the Red Sox). As I say, I know nothing about baseball, but please refrain from comparing them to Citeh Go Red Sox I love that Dirty Water Oh Boston you're my home Yeah, to be fair, maybe Boston aren't that bad. Having been to Boston (was only young, so don't remember it much....remember loving the place though...many Irish bars visited with the old man, the City bus tour & the Seaworld were mostly what I remember) I do have a soft spot for the City itself. And I was routing for them in the WS the other year when they were 3-0 down vs the Yankees and came back to win 4-3....that was what started me watching Baseball in truth. Cemented a slight interest that I had. It's the length of the season, or more the fact they play virtually every day which means I only really get into it towards the end of the season. If it came to two teams like Boston vs LA, I'd probably support Boston. But they do play the underdog an awful lot, when they ain't....I guess that's what I was alluding to Man S.h.i.t.t.y The Mets though really are more like the Latics IMO. And this choking they're doing now is classic Latics stuff! (now 4-1 down tonight...argh!) Just got MLB.com on at the moment and they're saying the players now are talking as though they won't win again and will miss the playoffs, whereas the Phillies are acting like they've done it now (which they probably have)......good discussion also about fans and the atmosphere they create and how they pounce on the players (almost like our fans do at BP.) I guess it's like Latics times a thousand....as these MLB games get for example, 50,000 fans and the players get paid millions to accept the stick....or not, as the Mets are showing. Edited September 29, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I'll cut and paste your comments for the Red Sox fan and let you know what he thinks about other teams (from reading the book I can guess what he thinks about the Yankees!) I'd love to go to Boston to see a match, just to hear thousands of Bostonians singing 'Dirty Water'. They only play it if they win, though, so it would be just my luck to go all that way then they'd lose. Dirty Water had been played for many years at Red Sox games after victories although the World Series had eluded them. In 2004 they actually got the Standells to reform and they played at Fenway Park in the last home game of the season - the team went on to win the World Series. Dirty Water was written by Ed Cobb, an LA resident despite the 'Boston you're my home' line and was inspired by a trip to Boston where he was mugged after escorting a local college girl home. The line in the song 'frustrated women have to be in by 12 o'clock' refers to the curfew imposed on the female students at the time. Ed Cobb also wrote 'Tainted Love' but The Standells rejected it. It was then recorded by Gloria Jones (Mrs Marc Bolan) and Soft Cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) I'll cut and paste your comments for the Red Sox fan and let you know what he thinks about other teams (from reading the book I can guess what he thinks about the Yankees!) I'd love to go to Boston to see a match, just to hear thousands of Bostonians singing 'Dirty Water'. They only play it if they win, though, so it would be just my luck to go all that way then they'd lose. Dirty Water had been played for many years at Red Sox games after victories although the World Series had eluded them. In 2004 they actually got the Standells to reform and they played at Fenway Park in the last home game of the season - the team went on to win the World Series. Dirty Water was written by Ed Cobb, an LA resident despite the 'Boston you're my home' line and was inspired by a trip to Boston where he was mugged after escorting a local college girl home. The line in the song 'frustrated women have to be in by 12 o'clock' refers to the curfew imposed on the female students at the time. Ed Cobb also wrote 'Tainted Love' but The Standells rejected it. It was then recorded by Gloria Jones (Mrs Marc Bolan) and Soft Cell. Lol..not sure if he'll be happy about the fact I like the Mets....the last World Series the Mets won in 86, was against the Mets (4-3). I guess the Red Sox thinking stems from the number of times they got to the WS and lost...I guess it would give you that mindset they've had, esp with the NYY for their rivals. As for Dirty Water......will have to look it up. It's good when music becomes associated to things.....it's like Mouldy Old Dough for me....every time we play, I make sure I've had a rendition of it. Conjures up happier thoughts of the Latics for me. Anyway, if you can stand the late nights, get onto that site I've posted above. Be fun if the Red Sox and Mets met in post-season (if we make it! 6-3 down now...hold on...make that 7-3 in a silent Shea Stadium!) EDIT: Well the Mets kept their bottling act going...shocker from Perez (gave up 6 runs in the first 4 innings and then was promptly relieved - I must've cursed him above) and ended up losing 7-4 while the Phillies won....and with San Diego & Arizona both winning, the wildcard looks gone now for the Mets. So they'll have to win the division, which means they'll have to win 1 more than the Phillies with 2 games to go...and to think how they were 6.5 games clear not long ago. Also seems I cursed Colorado who lost....although to be fair, is was against Arizona. And even cursed the NYY's form as they blew a 9-6 lead in the 9th inning, letting in 3 runs and lost it in the 10th inning. At least that's given me a small smile on an otherwise disappointing night. Oh well....sleep time....lol. Edited September 29, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) Foof. Edited September 30, 2007 by 24hoursfromtulsehill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 As for Dirty Water......will have to look it up. I'm gonna tell you a story I'm gonna tell you about my town I'm gonna tell you a big bad story, baby Aww, it's all about my town Yeah, down by the river Down by the banks of the river Charles (aw, that's what's happenin' baby) That's where you'll find me Along with lovers, muggers, and thieves (aw, but they're cool people) Well I love that dirty water Oh, Boston, you're my home (oh, you're the Number One place) Frustrated women (I mean they're frustrated) Have to be in by twelve o'clock (oh, that's a shame) But I'm wishin' and a-hopin, oh That just once those doors weren't locked (I like to save time for my baby to walk around) Well I love that dirty water Oh, Boston, you're my home (oh, yeah) Because I love that dirty water Oh, oh, Boston, you're my home (oh, yeah) Well, I love that dirty water (I love it, baby) I love that dirty water (I love Baw-stun) I love that dirty water (Have you heard about the Strangler?) I love that dirty water (I'm the man, I'm the man) I love that dirty water (Owww!) I love that dirty water (Come on, come on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 By golly, there's a baseball thread that isn't touched in months, then along come the playoffs and in one night you gloryboys jump on it As some may remember from last years drunken ramblings I'm a fan of the current World Series holders (finally). This year we've suffered from the odd pitching problem (such as long term injury to our main guy and another one kind of, errr, dying), so maybe next year (so long as La Russa stays as manager). This year it is a bit open. I'd like Boston or San Diego to do it, but to me (sadly) the Yankees are starting to look the team to beat. After their horrendous start to the season when Boston trounced them into what we thought was next year, they have come back very strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_ok Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I remember Sandy Alomar, Chuck Nagy, Julio Franco - that's about it from the Indians outfit. I think the big players from that era were Roberto Alomar, Ken Griffey Jr, Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken Jr, Jeff Bagwell (on all sorts of steroids and enhancers - but who wasn't back then), Mike Piazza, Greg Maddux, and a guy from The Mariners who had a very strange name - it escapes me... Ken Griffey Jr will perhaps be best remembered for his brief spell with the Springfield Isotopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I used to follow Cleveland, not watched it for ages until very recently on NASN. I haven't a clue who plays for who these days. I remember Sandy Alomar, Chuck Nagy, Julio Franco - that's about it from the Indians outfit. I think the big players from that era were Roberto Alomar, Ken Griffey Jr, Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken Jr, Jeff Bagwell (on all sorts of steroids and enhancers - but who wasn't back then), Mike Piazza, Greg Maddux, and a guy from The Mariners who had a very strange name - it escapes me... And I love the use of the term 'back then'. Barry Bonds, cough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) By golly, there's a baseball thread that isn't touched in months, then along come the playoffs and in one night you gloryboys jump on it As some may remember from last years drunken ramblings I'm a fan of the current World Series holders (finally). This year we've suffered from the odd pitching problem (such as long term injury to our main guy and another one kind of, errr, dying), so maybe next year (so long as La Russa stays as manager). This year it is a bit open. I'd like Boston or San Diego to do it, but to me (sadly) the Yankees are starting to look the team to beat. After their horrendous start to the season when Boston trounced them into what we thought was next year, they have come back very strongly. Lol...but this board wasn't running 12mths ago, was it? If it was.....I weren't here? Lol! Anyway...come on the Mets.....totally f***** the Marlins tonight!!! And the Nationals beat the Phillies.....unbelieveable! Dead heat as it stands with 1 game to go!!! The Mets must win tomorrow, coz the Phillies won't lose 2 of a 3 game series to them so will win tomorrow. Thing is, I can see them both winning tomorrow and having a playoff....and the way the Mets have look dejected, losing that playoff.....please don't guys!!! EDIT: Just seen rest of scores....San Diego lose, Colorado beat Arizona, what a last day it's gunna be between them and the Phillies, Mets situation! Come on the Mets!!! Edited September 30, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
help_shiny Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'm a big Mets fan - have been supporting (and going) for 7 seasons now. You're wrong about them getting by on little money though - they're a monster club with a payroll to match. They just seem little compared to the evil empire across town. They're the biggest spenders in the National League and the third overall (behind the NYY and the Red Sox) Big big game today. I cant believe how they've choked, a truly historic collapse but as the Phillies are histories losers we might get there yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) I'm a big Mets fan - have been supporting (and going) for 7 seasons now. You're wrong about them getting by on little money though - they're a monster club with a payroll to match. They just seem little compared to the evil empire across town. They're the biggest spenders in the National League and the third overall (behind the NYY and the Red Sox) Big big game today. I cant believe how they've choked, a truly historic collapse but as the Phillies are histories losers we might get there yet! I thought the teams like LAA and the Cardinals spent more than the Mets? You're right though, my comparisons are more against the Man Utd of Baseball and the Red Sox than the other teams. That's why it's nice to see them take them on....and beat them (hopefully!) Right anyway.....the games just started.....got my stream up, come on the Mets! EDIT: And 4-0 down in no time What an error to let in the 4th run, complete misthrow....2 more on base now...can't see Glavine staying in the game very long at all....and again, the Shea goes silent....worrying! Edited September 30, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I thought the teams like LAA and the Cardinals spent more than the Mets? You're right though, my comparisons are more against the Man Utd of Baseball and the Red Sox than the other teams. That's why it's nice to see them take them on....and beat them (hopefully!) Right anyway.....the games just started.....got my stream up, come on the Mets! Both LA teams are up there in the spending. Never sure who spends what myself though. However, he's not wrong about the Mets. they are throwing it about like money's gone out of fashion at the mo'. They are opening their own TV station in an effort to get up there. As for the Cards. they have the second biggest income, behind the Yankees, but don't go too silly with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 And there goes Glavine....not even past the top of the 1st....5 runs down and bases loaded.....going horribly wrong! Might have to hope on the Nationals winning against the Phillies, but can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 And there goes Glavine....not even past the top of the 1st....5 runs down and bases loaded.....going horribly wrong! Might have to hope on the Nationals winning against the Phillies, but can't see it. I Need More Televisions. I can't watch baseball and American football on one TV. (never mind the Spanish football) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) I Need More Televisions. I can't watch baseball and American football on one TV. (never mind the Spanish football) If I was on better than 2mb broadband, I could. Just stream them thru different programs and make them 1/4 screen. Use Sopcast, TVU, TVAnts etc. Can be frustrating when they freeze, but it's stuff for free so cant complain....except for the score!!! Mets have blown it unless they put together a remarkable turnaround....7-1 down and the Phillies are 3-1 up....idiots! EDIT: Make that 8-1 and runners on base....looks like I'll have to cheer on another team in the playoffs. As mentioned the other day, be nice to see Cleveland take on the big boys. Edited September 30, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddy_chaddy Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Don't really follow the baseball but my cousin, Phil Stockman, is a pitcher in the US. He used to be under contract by Arizona Diamond backs in 1997. I was too young to be that interested at that point (being only 7 and never having met him seems he lives in Australia). I only really started becoming aware of what he did during the Olympics in Athens where he was in the Australian International squad that won Silver. He then came and visited (but left the medal at home in Australia ) and i was starstruck! He gave me a signed mit and ball (which he then used to bruise my older brothers hand ) and i have articles that the chron have run on him framed on my wall. I guess you could say he's my hero Anyway, i do believe he is currently contracted with Atlanta Braves and pitched for Richmond (AAA), Mississippi (AA) and Rome (A) during 2006. I've finished name dropping now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 And pop went the Mets....wow, last time I saw faces like that on fans was leaving Bloomfield Road in May! To not make the playoffs when leading by 7 games with 17 to go is ridiculous.....hard to believe, so what it must be like for the most avid of Mets fans, I can only imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) Just realised.....as the results stand, Colorado will end up dead level with San Diego and force a wildcard playoff. Them odds on Colorado still look good....shame I didn't take them, but if they qualify, would love to see them go all the way....12 wins from 13 games up to tonight and maybe 13 from 14 shortly....some run! Edited September 30, 2007 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 So there we have it...the hunt for October is decided, bar a 1-game playoff tomorrow between Colorado and San Diego to decide the final wildcard.... * AL Division Series: NY Yankees at Cleveland L.A. Angels at Boston * NL Division Series: Chi. Cubs at Arizona Colorado or San Diego at Philadelphia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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