Gemma06

Pah, details... just shove a blue shirt on him, Grayson wont notice....

 

Vernon is the ready made replacement for Porter.... still convinced Porter, Killen and Vernon are all the same person - have you ever seen them in a room together... have you.. Have you???

 

Vernon would be No1 in my book to replace Porter.... but I know how many people dont agree with that one... never get him though ..

I always rated Vernon, i don't think he's quite as good as Porter but then i haven't seen him play for a few years. Would be a decent replacement but i doubt he would come back

I don't think Glombard or Clarke are the answer. Constantine is a good player but i think Championship clubs are looking at him so he's probably going to go there. We are really going to struggle to find a replacment for Porter who will play at this level for reasonable money i think out best chance is getting someone on loan. Lafferty at Burnley is a fantastic young player, Burnley are also looking at signing Constantine if they do that will push Lafferty down the pecking order. He would be fantastic at this level if Burnley would be willing to let him go on loan

I think if you look at the chat boards of the 'well fans, even they are stunned that Porter is signing for them.... thye were bloomin awful last season, and thier crowds have fallen, mainly because they do not have a goalscorer, and absolutlely no creativity in the team...

 

They are all pretty thankful that Porter would even consider them, and think they have found thier goalscorer... fair enough... but can you imagine porter in a team that doesnt actually create any chances for him...?? he doesnt exactly score goals out of nothing....

 

Soooo... Porter is going to a team that are...

 

1. Relegation favourites from the SPL..

2. Get smaller crowds than ours

3. Have no creativity at all in thier side..

4. Are about to put all thier hopes and pressures on the "lethal" and "fit as a butchers dog" Chris Porter....

 

Great move Chris, brilliant.... can see some comparison to Killen that people have mentioned, which is an obvious one.... but everyone would agree i'm sure that Killen is/was a better finisher than Porter, and going to Hibs he went to a good, up and coming, creative team, who play good football, in front of big crowds in the scottish capital...

 

Motherwell are none of these... their fans are realists and a good bunch, and even they are stunned he is going there....

 

Did anyone say football scrapheap??? Wouldnt wish this on anyone... but what are you doing Chris???

I agree Hibs are much better than Motherwell but perhaps Motherwell are planning on investing in players this summer which is why Porter is considering them. I don't think Killen is that much better than Porter i think there pretty much equal, i personally would prefer Porter in my team than Killen. Anyway it could be the making or breaking of him, but it's down to him to decide where he thinks is the best place for him. Perhaps the injury isn't sorted like we all thought and he's worried this could be his last contract and he's looking to cash in. If i were him though Motherwell would be the last place i'd go

I don't consider Motherwell to be in anyway a better club than us, they've no money and don't get big crowds.

 

I can't think that they can offer him anything we can't except a signing on fee as the'll avoid a transfer fee.

 

I consider Scottish football to be a joke even at SPL level.

I think he see's it more of a stepping stone rather than going to a better club. I mean Killen was nothing special for us, he looked good at times but rubbish at others, he spent a short time at Hibs and now he is at Celtic and will be playing in the Champions League next season. If Porter does well next season and manages to stay injury-free then he will be getting more offers from Championship clubs, maybe even lower Prem clubs and possibly Rangers/Celtic. You can't fault the guy for wanting to further his career - as i presume many of us do in our jobs - but it is anoying that it has dragged on so long and the petty jibes his agent and our club keep firing at each other just makes the situation worse

I want Porter to stay. If tomorrow he offered to sign I'd accept that 100%. Even though we've been through the mill a little!

 

But I agree with Steve. It really is pathetic to talk like that. We know Porter is interested in staying in the north west, we know his agent is a complete but that does not mean we should behave like this.

 

Football is a mans game, as they say, and we should take this like a man. Am I happy he's leaving? No! Am I happy we'll get nothing for him? Even more no!! But do I accept it as a fact of life that you can't always have your own way? Yes!

 

To say Porter should be 'loyal' to Oldham is complete crap! We didn't all come on to boards and moan when we brought him in that he'd been disloyal to Bury did we!? We've not moaned that Kalala has turned down a contract at Yeovil and been disloyal to them by signing for us have we!? NO!

 

People who say Porter should be loyal are looking at it from their point of view... that if THEY were playing for Latics they would be loyal. But if one of us were playing for Huddersfield or Doncaster or whoever and someone offered to tripple our pay, give us £200k up front and the chance to shine in front of the old firm who wouldn't take it?

 

People say this is a sideways step for Porter... could agree that 'well are certainly not a club bigger than us... but look at Killen (who's had worse injury problems than Porter) and the fact that after a year up there he's now got an opportunity to play CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTBALL!!!

 

Who, in their right mind would turn down an opportunity like that?

 

I want Porter to stay, I hope that tomorrow for some crazy reason he does... but honest to God all this "whine whine whine it's not fair" stuff is just misplaced anger that we're loosing a good footballer with great potential!!

 

RANT OVER!

I agree 100% with this post. People seem to think that anyone who plays for this club has to love it forever, all they have to do is want the club to do well whilst they are here and give 100% - which Porter has done, he can't help being injured and to be fair to the lad he did play through injury in immense pain.

I was given the opportunity to sign for a football team in America - womens football is much better over there than here (tho personally i still think its rubbish to watch) i was on the first plane over there! If Porter believes he can make a better career for himself up there then fair enough.

Having spoken to Porter a couple of times he came accross as a very quiet, shy guy and that is probably why he hasn't personally spoken out about what he is going to do and so all we have heard about is what his agent has to stay. I hope Porter stays but after what has been posted on the official site and on message baords - some of the players do read them - i doubt there is much chance of that now.

so why didn't latics offer him an improved contract then gemma?

 

because they had other ideas???!!!

 

he was let go-shez told him he wasn't getting a new contract.

warnes fault for not accepting the contract in april eh.

 

anyway,warne has gone,we now have a new season,new team. enjoy!

Latics offered him a contract, Warne decided he wanted more financial security and first team football so they decided to part company. Same happens all the time. It's whats happening now with Porter. The only thing Porter has done wrong in my opinion is not speak out, but he's a quiet lad and only 23 years old. And he has a twit of an agent who isn't advising him very well but will probably be getting a very good deal for himself out of all this

You will find Gemma that Warne didnt reject a contract here, he was let go !

 

Wellens hasn't been allowing his agent to band his name about and wip up a stir

He was offered a contract in April, on the same money for 12months, he turned it down as he wanted more money and a two year deal, which is understandable as he is nearing the end of his career

Porter hasn't signed for anyone yet. He hasn't said a word about moving to Scotland or to any other club, its all his agent. If a better offer comes from a different club then of course he will sign for someone else, just like other players have done. Why is everyone slagging him off and not Wellens or Haining or Warne, both Warne and Haining turned contracts down here and have gone to other teams, i presume Wellens will end up signing elsewhere as well. If Porter does go to Scotland then so be it, it's not Porters fault the club wont get any money. He signed a two year contract for us and played very well for us, played through injury and in a great deal of pain and scored a lot of important goals for us and now he will decide to sign whichever contract he feels his best for himself and his family. Players moving on to different clubs is all part of football. I hope wherever he goes - i hope he stays here though - all goes well for him. I doubt anyone on here will agree with anything i've said on this post but unnfortunately its true, there is no loyalty left in football, from neither the players nor the owners/managers.

From the age of about 10 i spent a lot of time in Turkey and really enjoyed going to the games between the 3 big teams Galatasaray, Fenerbache and Besiktas, the atmosphere was amazing and not just inside the ground but all around the city. When they beat united in the champions league it was fantastic!!

I also liked watching football italia on channel four and had a soft spot for AC Milan and Juventus

Very good point regarding Rocky Gemma. I was one of those who needed some convincing after his early performances for us. I still wasn't convinvced at the end of the season, but unless we are thinking of signing 3 midfielders, i think it would be foolish of us to get rid due to cover, bearing inmind how Macca feel wawy a bit in the 2nd half of the season as well.

I agree Macca didn't play well at the end of the season but he proved early on in the season how well he is capable is playing so i think he is a better bet than Rocky. I suppose it all depends on who Sheridan has in mind of bringing in during the next few weeks.

I think Rocastle will go, he did ok at the end of last season but i don't think he is good enough for a first team spot if we are serious about going up next season. I've never really rated Edwards but he is ok as cover down the left

How do you know that Gemma ?

Someone told me that he was hoping to get a part in it. I'm glad the club is rid of him anyway, i've never really rated him

Chris Hall soon to be seen in Hollyoaks!

I'm a season ticket holder and will definately be renewing mine in the next couple of days. When i first heard that we were attempting to sign Hughes i thought it would be a huge mistake but now i've actually thought about it why shouldn't he be able to work? He has served his time - or soon will have - and he should get a second chance. What he did was awful and i would hope it's something he deeply regrets. If he wasn't a footballer then no-one would be moaning about him trying to get back into work. I'm sure it will put a few people off renewing their season tickets but i would hope that once they have thought about it they will change there minds. I sit in the lower tier of the main stand and the amount of season ticket holders has drastically dropped over the last few seasons, its something the club seriously need to look at

Thought Porter was out of contract? So wont he go on a Bosman free?

We get money cos of his age but Bury will get a percentage of it. I hope he stays i know he seems to be public enemy number one with some fans but i can't see why, he has scored over 20 goals for us this season and thats with him missing games due to injury and playing many games in pain whilst injured. He is a fantastic player and if we want to challenge for promotion next season then we need a goal scorer and Porter is definately a goal scorer. They now know the problem that was causing the problem with his knee so no further damage will be done. We must try and keep him next season if we can and get a pacey striker to play along side him then we will do well. Hopefully City will sell Richards and we will get a good chunk of money to play with, Porters agent asked for 30k signing on fee as thats what Plymouth offered him I'm sure we could afford to give him that if Richards gets sold

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wellens will go to the championship!!! you havin a laff.

5 good performances in 2 seasons,not championship material is it.

Have you only been to 5 matches then?

I thought Haining did ok today, he certainly played better than he has been doing the last few months anyway. Greegan i thought was awful today as he has been in the last few months, when he played for us on loan he was fantasic and i thought he would be the driving force behind our push for promotion but he has been very bad since the Scunthorpe game. Hopefully next season he'll get back to the player we know he can be. I think Haining will go, Wellens will go to a championship club i wish he would stay but i doubt it, I hope Porter stays but he will probably go if offered something in the championship, Warne has rejected a contract already so will probably go, Edwards i think will get released which i'm not all that bothered about as long we bring in another player with some pace. I think Eardley will go in the summer too, i think we will cash in on him as we have Lomax who can do more than an adequate job at right back. I think either McDonald or Rocastle will go and hopefully wood will go too. Chris Hall will hopefully be in his way too. Blayney will go too i hope and keep Pogs we know he can be a good keeper he just needs someone there to keep his confidence up like Dowie did. I hope Charlton stays if he is fit enough if not we obviously need another left back but we have a fantastic young left back called Black who has just as much if not more potential than Eardley so he will hopefully be coming through tho next season might be a bit too soon for him. Shez MUST buy a leader, preferably i the central midfield, we need someone in the Duxbury mold, a born leader who will always give 110%

GK - Pogs

CD - Hill

CD - Hall

CD - Greegan

RW - Liddell

CM - Wellens

CM - Murray

CM - Duxbury

LW - Eyres

ST - Porter

ST - Andrews

subs - Blayney, Armstrong, Eardley, Warne, McDonald/Taylor

Pogliacomi

Low

Fitz Hall

Hill

Haining

Eyres

Murray

Darren Sheridan

Armstrong

Andrews

Eyre.

 

Subs: Duxbury, Miskelly, Baudet, Corazzin, Carss

 

(Probable/possible)

 

Blayney

Charlton/Eddy

Haining

Gregan

Eardley

Taylor

McDonald

Wellens

Liddell

Porter

Warney

 

Subs: Someone young, Glombard, Rocky, Roque, Lomax?

 

Which would you prefer? From first glance I would say that at the moment we have more quality overall now than the 2003 lot did, sadly we picked the wrong time of the year to stop showing it. The 2003 team had more fight in it IMO. John Eyre and Mini-Shez play a major role in both of those averages.

 

I'd go for a dream team of:

 

Pogs

 

Gregan

Hill

Fitz

 

Eyres

Murray

Rocky

Wellens

Taylor

 

Porter

Liddell

 

I await a cyber-bashing!

Middlesborough have released Danny Graham and Malcolm Christie. Graham scored something like 8 goals in 14 appreances on loan at Carlisle and his wage demands probably wouldn't be too high. Christie might want a good few grand a week but then again he will be looking to restart his career after suffering more injuries than Killen and Porter put together. I think either of them could od a job for us.

 

Whatever happens I think we need a bit of a clear out, we look completely lacking in confidence at the mo and if, IF we don't beat the Lashers next weekend and then Forest in the final I think we might struggle next season if a few results go against us early on like they did this season. I don't think it would take much for the old doubts to surface.

 

Brentford and Hartlepool both got relegated the season after missing out on the playoffs, so I think freshening up the squad whatever happens would be a good idea.

Danny Graham is a good shout but i think we'll only get him if we go up. I think there will be a big clearout unnfortunately, this seems to be happeneing every summer, we need to get a settled squad.

I can't believe we'd let Warne leave after the season he's had. If we don't go up he will easily be good enough to start most games next season. If we do then he deserves a place in the squad. The need for more pace is clear but you can't let someone that committed leave. How much extra cash can he have been asking for?

An extra 50% i believe. Don't ask don't get i suppose. He may still sign. It's difficult for both the players and the club at the moment as we don't know what league we will be playing in or how much money there will be. In a couple of weeks this will all become clear and then we can start concentrating on what happens next season. I think for now they need to concentrate on next weekend at Blackpool.

People are saying Shez wants to buy Glombard (I hope not) and I dont know why as he hasn't been starting if both Warne and Porter are fit.

He certainly isn't good enough for the Chanpionship and I doubt if he is good enough for us in League 1.

He certainly hasn't convinced me from what I've seen of him and I think there must be much better options than him available this summer as alot of players contracts run out at various clubs.

He looks ok coming on off the bench but i wouldn't like him to be one of our main strikers next season. He is quick, has some skill and can get past people but his finishing and passing isn't very good, possibly another JJ. I wouldn't mind Wayne Andews coming back next season if Porter is still here i think them two would be an excellent pair up front.

He was offered a new contract but turned it down. He was offered the same money as he is on now but he wants more. He is nearing the end of his career and if he can get more money elsewhere then good luck to him. If we do end up going up i can't see him being in the first 11 though which is not what he will want at this stage of his career

IMO Warney deserves ar LEAST another twelve month contract , he gives 110% and you cannot ask more !

I think Constantine would be a good signing for us, but there a few other clubs interested inc Burnley so if we don't go up i doubt he will sign for us.

Porter might end up staying, the problems with his knee will limit his options as i hear he will struggle to pass a medical.

Warne has been offered a contract but turned it down, hope he ends up staying though

I would like to see Stam stay and get a place in the first 11, i think he will go though if he isn't guaranteed a starting place but with his injury record is it worth the risk in possibly loosing Haining and then Stam getting injured again?

If we don't go up that could see Wellens go and try his luck in the Championship. I would love him to stay though. If he does go i wouldn't mind Spicer from Burnley given a try or perhaps Cwkya or however you spell his name who we had on loan from Wigan.

If we don't go up that could also see us cash in on Taylor and Eardley, we have cover at right back with Lomax but i would like another left winger.

A left back would also be useful as cover for Charlton

We also have a lot of good kids coming through and i would like to see more of Wolfenden next season. But as we have learnt this season we need a player like Duxbury in the team, a good captain and fantastic leader

So we're hearing rumours of Will and Warney being shown the door......

 

IF we do thrash the lashers on saturday and eventually make it to the championship who would you like to see us sign? Within reason of course, he may be a cheating little turd but i know we'd all love to see ronaldo at boundary park, but i mean realistically

 

Heres a contraversial one for ya.... I know he was a hero but IMHO i dont think Wellens has done much in the last few months, and we all seem to to agree he couldnt play in the same team as Killkeny so how about losing one for the other, KK got age on his side.......

 

Blaney for Pogs?

 

Stam for Gregan?

 

One of the free scoring youth team for Porter if he goes?

 

Hoolahoop, Constantine?

 

Leave it with ya.......

I sit in the lower tier of the main stand and yes there are a lot of moaners in there but im sure there are some in all the stands. I spent one season in the lower tier of the Lookers quite a while ago now and it was the same in there. Everyones entitled to their opinion though and if they want to pay £20 to go and sit in the cold and moan for two hours then thats up to them, its more money for the club. When the Lookers gets knocked down im hoping a few come over from there and hopefully create a bit of atmosphere in the main stand!

Either lump it to Porter or out wide to Liddell who doesn't put in a good enough ball.

Liddell is the only winger who can actually cross the ball!! Edwards certainly can't cross and although i do think Taylor is a good player his distribution can be quite poor.