tactically_naive

I haven't seen it yet t_n. The film was made by my fellow Burton-on-Trent resident Shane Meadows. You may be interested in the link setting out Shane's views on the film.

 

Shane used to be the lead singer in a local band called "She Talks To Angels" with Paddy Considine and a couple of lads who lived round the corner from me.

 

http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/feature.jsp?id=160615

Cheers DS. An interesting interview. I heard Shane on Radio 5 Live with Mark Kermode 2-3 weeks back and he was really angry about the 18 certificate for the film cos he wanted it to be used as an educational tool for 15 year-olds.

Watched this last night. My thoughts:-

PLOT

The film is set in 1983, the time of Thatcherism, the Falklands War, the Miner's strike and the "greed is good" mentality. It tells the story of a 12 year old boy (called Shaun) who is bullied at school, who has lost his father in the Falklands, and lives with his Mum in a northern council house. He meets a small group of skinheads on his way home from school and joins the gang, shaves his head, dons a Ben Sherman shirt and Docs, and becomes a junior member of the skinhead gang.

The gang ends-up as a pseduo family and help him with his bullying problems, before being taken over my another skinhead called Combo (fresh out of jail) who has a right-wing agenda and tries to impose his National Front views on the rest of the gang.

I won't reveal any more about the plot to avoid spoiling it.

MY THOUGHTS

As a bloke who grew-up in the 80s, this is a great piece of nostalgia and brought back a lot of memories from my own childhood, apart from the right-wing/National Front/skinhead thing of course! The young lad who plays Shaun (Thomas Turgoose) is a star in the making and is very believable as a wannabe skinhead. Combo - played by Stephen Graham (Snatch) - is also excellent and brings a sense of threat and menace to most of the scenes he is in.

The story grips from the start and makes you want to watch more. As you would expect, there is some grim violence in the film although not a great deal........this isn't "Romper Stomper" or "Chopper".

My rating : 9/10 on the TN scale. The best film I've seen this year (better than 300).

The German government has never apologised for their predecessors in WW2, although the former West German government did in the 70s.

Doesn't mean to say that it's correct in withholding an apology.

I just don't see where it gets anyone.

With no apology thus far, how does anyone know?

IMO it would encourage self-pity and a lack of personal responsibility.

If that was the case, and I'm not saying that I agree, that's their problem isn't it and shouldn't prevent Bliar from apologising.

Just don't think it would do any good.

Why not? If you're black, and feel wronged, an apology from Bliar might do the trick? What harm would be done?

Sorry, but I can't see a reason not to if members of the black community feel passionate about it. Not having a dig, seriously.

If I were black, had ancestors who had been a victim of the slave trade, and felt passionately that my family had been wronged, an apology from Blair would make me think - 'Why are you apologising? You did nothing wrong.'

But you're not, so are not best qualified to comment, like myself.

Again, what harm would it do?

Imagine that you are black, had ancestors who had been a victim of the slave trade, and felt passionately that your family had been wronged.

An apology from Bliar might make you feel better. Might mean that this issue is closed.

Again, what harm can it do?

Nothing from where I'm sat.

Whether or not you agree/disagree that the UK Government should apologise is irrelevant really. Just ask yourself a question........what harm would it do if they did apologise?

I'm not black or of Afro-Caribbean decent so don't speak from a position of personal experience, but, if I were, and I felt that my ancestors had been wronged by the UK Government AND it meant something to me, then why not ask for an apology?

What harm would be done in Tony Bliar actually had the political bolox to stand-up and say "Sorry"?

For me, it's not a question of "Should he?", it's a question of "Why not?".

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Tony Bliar.

For taking the country to war under false pretences resulting in 134 British casualties and thousands of Iraqis.

I am not a "bleeding heart liberal", not by any stretch of the imagination, I just don't appreciate being lied-to by our elected Prime Minister.

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Beware the Dark Side young Skywalker!

I am gettin on a bit and thought i'd move with the times, traded my mp3 player an got a ipod, WTF!! i aint really up to date with technology, can someone please help me get tunes on it, it aint copy n paste like my mp3, if any one knows can they post in simple steps please from the beginin, cheerz

It's all done thru iTunes, the software you should have got with the iPod or downloadable from the Apple website if you didn't. Install that and it will allow yer PC/Mac to talk to yer iPod and you can drag & drop music from your hard-drive to yer iPod via iTunes. Or, you can purchase music via the iTunes store if that floats yer boat.

A word of warning - iTunes-purchased music is full of DRM (Digital Rights Management) protection and gives no flexibility of how you can listen to it. Also it is in Apple's AAC format further limiting how & where it can be played i.e. it won't play on a lot of other MP3 players. Another word of caution is that iTunes is very RAM hungry and will run slowly on an older PC.

There are ways of managing your iPod other than via iTunes but they tend to be a little more complicated and if you're a little "technophobic" (no offence meant) then you might struggle a bit.

No worries dude.

Theyr developing a system using "hawk eye" to determine weather the ball goes in. It looks costly and I dont think lower league clubs could afford it. maybe it will bbe in the premierleague soon!

I've voted yes but, as Sheephead says, it's gotta be affordable for all levels of pro football otherwise our league will be further regarded as "2nd class football" in comparison with the Premiership.

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Beat me to it Rummy!

Welcome Ponte.

The winner this week is Tactically_Naive! Well done!

 

T_N weighs in with ALL TWENTY CORRECT!

 

Yikes.

 

And not a Wilson in sight!

 

I've kidnapped him and forced him to help me with the answers on pain of being locked in a sealed room with BB80 for a month!

Gotta be Wemberlee, although they could hold it on Clayton Fields and it wouldn't matter really.

if its the willy russell about hen partys not sure if its the same one but try going on tinternet by typing the film name and have a look at amazon. dvd. sorry if u already tried this.

Thanks, but I'd already tried that anyway. I looked on the UK ebay and Amazon and there's lots more VHS tapes to but but no DVD. Don't think it was ever released on DVD in the UK but seems to have been in the US for some reason?

Not sure how to capture VHS, without a VCR, but does this help, TN?

 

>>>Link<<<

Nice one fella! Just done a "Buy it now". Never thought to look on the US ebay!

Is this a home movie TN?

Ermmmmmmmmmmmmm.............................

No, sadly nothing as "exotic" as that. It's some poxy British film called "Dancin Thru The Dark". Not very good tbh but she loves it for some reason.

That's my story anyway...................

Remember VHS tapes? Ya know, the black plastic oblong things with a tape thingy coiled-up inside?

Well, mi missus has an all-time favourite film which is on VHS and we've consigned our VCR to the cupboard now that we've got a DVR and I can't be arsed to set it up again just cos she wants to watch some puppy poo film. Therefore, she's set me a wee task to find a way to get said film onto a DVD and I wondered if anyone has ever done this before.

Before you ask, the film isn't available on DVD (I struggled to find it on VHS tbh) so I don't have the luxury of going buying it. I'm well practiced in video conversion from any format to DVD once it's on my PC, I just need a method of capturing the video.

I'm sure the frustration of being right about everything as well as this and that will along with not having a platform to preach will mean he will soon be amoung us !!

Nah, I have a vision of the gob:censored:e talking to himself in a padded cell, a la Norman Bates at the end of Psycho.

Here's hoping.