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16 minutes ago, Longlostfan said:

Was at Pride Park for a work thing a few weeks back.

They had a rig like this http://sglconcept.com/en/products/grass-lighting/led200-ir.html    running late into the evening.

Their website says Burton and Chesterfield have them ( as well as a lot of the more monied clubs) so maybe aren't that expensive.

Maybe not the top priority but...........

This is old, but guess where there is a will there is a way; 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-29705681

I understand groundstaff defending themselves.  It is not their fault that there is a repeated issue of historic poor communication by (past) club management, amongst clearly many other issues. 

Fans raised money for scoreboard. Maybe would’ve raised some money for some lights if it was explained as an issue. 

Their is a an understandable lack of trust on the fans part leading to sceptism over for example (but not limited to) a game being called off. 

Just now, PlayItLivo said:

 

 

 

Credit where credit is due to the thread starter for posting his info and it not being bullshit.

 

Top man ?

 

Very kind - thank you.

Just now, robboman said:He had a top of the range merc and evoque according to his Instagram

Look further back on his Instagram and he also has a 1-series BMW. 

I would imagine his championship contract probably extends to more than one car if he wants one. 

I can’t remember the full reg other than ML13 (I think) and whilst I appreciate scepticism in respect of Oldham, why would I go to the trouble of mentioning his car, track suit and colour of his boots! 

Guess we’ll find out later today. 

1 minute ago, Fergie said:

Believe it when I see it. There’s been that much shit on here this week

 

 

I have seldom posted on this forum but read frequently.

I didn’t take a picture or recording (!) as was driving  but from my part exactly what I have said is exactly what happened. 

From my part buzzing - he has his faults but is a quality footballer who I enjoy watching. 

Imo has the talent to play at higher level hence agree if permenant this is a real coup. 

“Are you signing here?”

“Yeah man”

Yes.

White BMW 1 Series 13 plate. Carrying a pair of red boots and wearing a grey tracksuit if evidence required.

Am I permitted to put what I asked him and what he told me ?

Arriving for training this morning at around 10:30am, boots in hand. 

6 minutes ago, leeslover said:

I'd be surprised if Queensy starts on Saturday. Especially if the others in midfield are tired he needs to put more in. I've been told he looked fucked quite early at Dongs, he might be better used sparingly until he's fitter and knows what is needed at this level 

First half at MK be looked dangerous when on the ball but he definitely tired early. 

Last night felt he did very little. Work ethic and defensive quality are evidently not what he is all about. He does not want to put his foot in.  Given Bury had control of the midfield I thought Omrani was the correct change and helped take back control of the game. 

He is obviously a talented player but don’t think he is quite yet up to speed and I too would not expect him to start on Saturday.  

6 minutes ago, deckyd said:

Buzzing cause of the goal at the end.  Lost the voice!!  Thought our first goal was very good, apart fronm that over 90 minutes we struggled tonight.  Think byrne could do with a rest, last 3 games hes been okay and i mean that in the best possible way as i think he has been outstanding.  Glad for holloway cause in all honesty i thought he would sky it..... delighted to be so far of the mark with that.

 

Who got mom?  I would of gave it to clarkr.  What was attendance??

 

Kean Bryan MOM - well deserved 

15 minutes ago, HarryBosch said:

He's also very good at ten pin bowling and a thoroughly, thoroughly nice man....

Agreed - Connor was amongst the last to leave - his attitude as well as his undoubted talent appears first class. 

On which note, Peter Clarke is an absolute legend. 

Nicer guy you couldn't wish to meet and fantastic with the kids. 

Hopefully he keeps playing for a little while yet, but if in the future wants to go into coaching the club should do everything it can to make it possible. 

1 hour ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

I hope they've bottomed out too - I reckon we're down to a very hardcore support. You may be right - I think there may be a few stragglers who may not renew for various reasons but I honestly believe that the work that the Community Trust does is generating a few new fans.

Attendances seem to be fairly consistent since 2010 based on a quick Google search which would seem to support this. 

The community trust has helped generate 5 new season ticket holders in my house. There must be more people like me disillusioned with Premier League football.  It's like going back to a different time going to Latics and I love it for that. 

The Club could do more imho to get people in (communication would be a start) but to be fair recent media improvements - This Week at Latics, Ask, Little Latics aren't going to do any harm - I think Sam is exceptionally good. 

7 minutes ago, Steve_R said:

We could have a worse chairman than Corney, but we could also have a lot better. Why doesn't he leave? Who knows, maybe he is staying fleece the club via the other businesses etc, maybe his mates have him on a retainer to stay here and get the best he can from the club for them via land sales, North stand etc, maybe he's convinced he can make a success of it one day. At present though it's not working, and bad decision after bad decision are just making matters worse.

I can't disagree with most of that. 

I moved to Oldham 6-years ago and have only been following the club closely in the last 12-months, so can't comment what has gone on before. 

Looking through a fresh pair of eyes there are certainly some.... strange things that seem to go on. 

Against this background this is therefore a genuine question. Is it worse and if so why? 

2 minutes ago, Steve_R said:

Corney has a plan? It seems to me that we just react to the latest problems with more desperate measures than the last time. I can remember when he used to boast of how we were such a well run club that other clubs would cast envious eyes at the way we operated. Now some of those clubs have reported us to the FL as we withheld their ticket monies, we've defaulted on payments to the HMRC to the extent  that we've had winding up orders, and had to cash in on sell on clauses and take out loans from dubious sources just to get by till the next crisis arises. Doesn't seem like a carefully calculated plan to me.

As fans we might not like what it is but there must be some sort of strategy. Even if it is milk the club via OEC, LED Media, Brassbank, et al. 

He is not an Oldham fan - he is a businessman who bought the club presumably to make money. If he wanted to quit he could - again see Leyton Orient. What's stopping him? 

7 minutes ago, underdog said:

The Necarcu loan is a concern to as it was taken out with at least one board member not being consulted over or even advised of it. 

 

Don't all shareholders have to agree to accept the charge?

 

Don't all the board members of OAFC have a clear statutory duty to ensure the business is run properly for both creditors, shareholders and us fans?

Do we know categorically if a new loan has been taken? 

The registration of a new charge in isolation does not prove it has - one explanation could be this was the refinance of existing borrowings. I acknowledge this is very much glass half full mentality however. 

No all shareholders would not have to accept the charge. The Directors are appointed by shareholders to manage the company. The charge was signed by which Mark Moisley in his role as a Director. 

Common or not, I agree unpaid bills is a worry and potentially a sign of stress with any business.

The loan confuses me a bit in so much as there was a charge registered last year.  Discharged and then immediately replaced with another charge of the same type.  My job is lending money to businesses - typically we'd take one charge which would cover any future advances. I don't understand why there has  been the requirement for the registration of a new charge.

Like us all Corney isn't perfect but it could be worse..... Leyton Orient anyone? 

WUP aside, is the club in any different / worse position than 12-months ago?  

On the pitch would seem similar - other than to say this time some of the spine of the team - Clarke, Gerrard, Fane, Holloway are on longer term contracts - last summer of only 4/5 players registered that are not really wanted won't be happening. 

There has been investment - LED boards - which although may be via another company what would be the point if there was to be no club at least in the short term?  

Offer price ending on season ticket sales is early - but given last years discount is not being repeated there should be a little more money about? 

Clearly allowing the WUP being served is bad management and it is not the first example.  But is it terminal and the club is going to be placed into liquidation on 8th May? Can't see it personally - OEC, LED, Sheridan, Clarke and Holloway contracts - what's the point if it's all going to end in a couple of weeks time? 

Simon Corney is quite clearly a clever man - he must have a plan, would just be nice to have some communication as to what this looks like? The relationship on both sides - board / supporters is  strained it can be repaired? 

Not saying I think things are ok. Far from it. 

But if bills can't be paid just after the bulk of money for season tickets sales are in then there is no hope?!  

March 2014 machine breaks - they lease another for 3-years which then finishes in April 2017? 

The bailiffs being in as recently as this makes no sense; 

If if there was a piece of kit we wanted to keep - in the context of season ticket sales / offer just having concluded - surely the money would've been available to settle any debt and keep the machine?  

As Dave Shaw said is this not just lease finished machine handed back? 

1 hour ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

Holloway,Clarke and Gerrard are signed up on proper contracts. That's the big positive for me 

I second this 

Under normal circumstances don't think this is bad at all. Bottom line is you are entitled to an opinion and it is an emotive subject. People care deeply for the club which is where it also stems from and it's hard to criticise anyone for that. 

I'm a new to any forum and Latics really I can see both points of view.

There is negativity on here at times and at also at games - Chris Taylor for one gets a lot of stick at times which is completely unjustified. 

Noaenever doesnt post here anymore and either does BP1960 both came across to me as intelligent people who know a bit about football - but they've been put off. 

Having said all of this I can understand entirely why there is the negativity - WUP, transfer embargo and that's just recently.  I work in finance with businesses similar size to Latics and have for almost 20-years - yes these things happen but they are not normal. 

Likewise, the fiasco around the North stand delays and the lack of communication from the club - I've bought tickets online for every game since January - in that time I've had guess how many emails from the Club promoting their services....

There is a lack of trust of Corney which to me seems  entirely justified given issues over a number of years. My perception is that as a business it is not well run. 

Against this there is a lot of good  the phrase I think davidshaw used is come and sample some old fashioned football- effectively what I did.  For me, it has reminded me why I fell in love with football - which wasn't Carlos Juggling Balls from Brazil being paid £300K per week. 

Since January my kids have been mascots, bench buddies, done coaching at school, been to the trust holiday club. They are invested, they love Connor Ripley, Peter Clarke and Anthony Gerrard for their commitment that is evident on the pitch. Warts and all we've all really enjoyed it resulting in  my family (5 of us) having signed up to season tickets next year. 

The Club clearly need more people like me - basically new fans and even I find it frustrating at the seemingly lack of effort to achieve this. My son is 9, we live with 2-miles of the ground. There is 1 other kid in his class who could tell you the name of even one Oldham player. 

But is there cause to be optimistic? Overall for me yes, we've the core of a really good side next season led by Sheridan Clarke, Holloway, Gerrard, Fane, hopefully McLaughlin, Green, Tope. We beat 3rd in the league on Saturday - nothing special about them at all - so it won't take much more to push on.

Yes im optimistic, but then I haven't had years of being let down of many levels, plus seeing best players (and managers) disappear the minute a small amount of money is waved about! 

Given his record over his career doesn't point to him becoming a goal scorer.

He strikes the ball well though and against Oxford could have had a hat trick with a bit more good luck. 

He needs someone to create a chance for him - so much of our play is through Holloway with him feeding other people. 

I love watching him play, he fights for everything and whilst don't think he will ever be a prolific  20+ a season, with the right player alongside him don't see why he won't get goals. 

Yes they would protected in liquidation. 

No point in these boards without a football club though. 

Didn't think "the conditions" made any difference. Oldham wanted it, Fleetwood didn't. Even in the first half the tempo of their play was slow - led by the goal keeper.