jimsleftfoot

I'll have a slightly more optimistic point of view.

Crossley: Didn't look too serious, but being honest, there are plenty better keepers out there that we could pick up.

Hughes: Didn't look too serious again. He tried to play on, so wasn't an obvious full pull. Couple of weeks would be my guess.

Taylor: Pulled hamstring. Out for a month, there is no bright side.

Bertrand: Might come back. If he does I can't see Chelsea stopping him playing in any games.

Kilkenny: Looks like he is off, but you never know.

 

Even if they all go/are out we have a situation where players are nigh on guaranteed first team football if they come on loan. Something I feel prevented some players from coming to us last season (Leon Best springs to mind).

What happened with Gregan that kept him out of the Wolves tie last season? How does it affect anyone we might sign?

Wellens has been playing further up field this season though. Donny fans also seem to be a bit baffled as to why they are signing him when they already have so many midfielders. Ten seemed to be the latest count they had.

I heard something about Blackpool being in for Wellens.

Why-are Japan the current World Champions?

Woosh

Dont worry, you will win the day! Things will change, they have been changing since Hillsbourugh.... Soon football will be a completly sterile atmosphere......

 

Slowly but surely football is becoming no different from a trip to the cinema......

Yeah like at Liverpool, where they support the team????

They only reason why latics is becoming miserable is because we dont support the team... and actually I am pretty loud supporter myself.

Agreed-anybody would think that this has only ever happened at BP, and in the last few years.

 

Get a grip.

Fantastic - something has always gone on this way so why should we change it.

Tell that to the Japanese.

Simple answer, no it isnt the fans fault....

Hmmm ask a psychologist and ask them whether they believe abuse to be acceptable in the work place and how they would think it would affect people. Also if you have one work place where a person was bullied and abused and one where a person was supported, the latter environment would likely be the more sucessfull. Also where do you think people would rather work at?

If I was Ricketts, Porter, Wellens, Eardley, Kilkenny, Bertrand etc, I would have to think twice of whether i want to work at a club like ours. We all have a go at Porter and Wellens for the money, but do you ever think that they may have not been happy. So many have never said anything in support apart from when a goal is scored, but will criticise at the earliest moment when ever a good move doesnt result in a goal.

I was angry after the Wallsall game, angry because it has become miserable watching latics if things are not going too well. I question whether its worth paying the money to watch latics and think it is worth it. However, sitting with some of the idiots that I have to put up with, im not sure if I want to.

you get me wrong...im not saying everybody is a glory hunter....

 

the percentage of people on here is not a true reflection of peoples opinions.

 

i know loads of people who are going to everton who havent been anywhere near bp for the last 2/3 years.

 

it just annoys you that when you draw a big team in the cup everybody suddenly pops out the woodwork.

 

i was trying to say to the first poster stop worrying,i couldnt give a to$$ if i get laughed at by some scroaty yorkshireman,ill still be there loud and proud.

Come on Ed, what do you expect. We are playing a premiership club away in the first meaningfull game since we got relegated from the premiership. Peoples main reason for watching football is to see good footballers play good football, hence more people go and see Everton than us and more fairweather types will want to go and see us play Everton than they will Walsall. People getting irritated by the fairweathers need to be realistic and should be glad of the extra income.

Maybe, but often stands can look fuller than they are.

 

Forest's following was poor - I thought 1,600 was generous.

I could see plenty of seats that were spare in all stands.

I must've been watching a different game then.

 

Apart from one error and a couple of aimless clearances I though Eardley had a very strong game and provided the majority of our most dangerous balls into the box.

 

I thought we needed more width if we were going to win but that could easily have left us exposed to the counter, especially when Commons came on.

 

A good point against the most solid side I've seen so far. It's no coincidence they've steadily risen to the top.

 

Ideally we need 3 points on Saturday to keep up the momentum, but that won't be easy given Walsall are on a longer unbeaten run than we are - regulation 1-1? (Obviously Ricketts will score...)

Well said Garcon, Eardley was ask to be provider a lot today and had little support in front of him. Forest came for a draw today and cancelled us. As for them having a crap midfield, they kept hold of the ball better than any other team we have played, though didn't do anything with it. The fact that they are top of the league and didn't have a shot on goal speaks a hell of a lot. What is the difference between them and us. The ability to make subsitutions and bring on good players even when they have players already injured.

I must've been watching a different game then.

 

Apart from one error and a couple of aimless clearances I though Eardley had a very strong game and provided the majority of our most dangerous balls into the box.

 

I thought we needed more width if we were going to win but that could easily have left us exposed to the counter, especially when Commons came on.

 

A good point against the most solid side I've seen so far. It's no coincidence they've steadily risen to the top.

 

Ideally we need 3 points on Saturday to keep up the momentum, but that won't be easy given Walsall are on a longer unbeaten run than we are - regulation 1-1? (Obviously Ricketts will score...)

Well said Garcon, Eardley was ask to be provider a lot today and had little support in front of him. Forest came for a draw today and cancelled us. As for them having a crap midfield, they kept hold of the ball better than any other team we have played, though didn't do anything with it. The fact that they are top of the league and didn't have a shot on goal speaks a hell of a lot. What is the difference between them and us. The ability to make subsitutions and bring on good players even when they have players already injured.

agree he has done well, but he wont get a look in when liddell comes back, and if we get another striker, davies can play wide, forcing smalley out of the first team. obviously if liddells injury keeps him out for longer than anticipated, or we fail to get a striker, smalley will stay

How longs Liddel out for??? It wouldnt surprise me if we didnt see Liddel in a latics shirt again

Do you honestly think that would do us any favours?

Gord said we should have had a stone wall pen about 2 mins before the sending off, maybe that was to level up a bit.

Joslin down only Clattenburg and Rennie to go

I like lazy journalism as it means people are not taking notice of us. We don't want to be a scalp.... as yet. Lets get into the top 8 or so first.

Foo Fighters was a good album, shame I didn't see them live this time round but I saw them at the MEN when In Your Honour was released and I swear to god, Dave Grohl looked at me, but it might just have been wishful thinking

My mate managed to blag tickets to see the Foo Fighters at Camden underworld last year. Only 300 people saw them. Luckily I was on my way down to London to see her that same day, so I got the other ticket .

Also saw them the next day at Hyde Park and met Bill Bailey, the bird from the Zutons and Nick Olivetti. All it cost me was a fiver donation for both nights

how can it be that we cant type or or or or but we can type uriah rennie? what kind of example does that set to our kids?

Uriah Rennie is a cheap lousy faggot!!

You're kidding.

 

Glad I'm not going then. I'd only get arrested.

 

Leeds will win narrowly. And the game will finish with 17 players.

I personally think it will depend with Clattenburg we get. He has been terrible but I think he can be good as well.

We need lots of people to irritate the fairweather fans, so that they join in, rather than feel that they'e the odd ones out!

Definitely – well for the first time in years a group of us have got organised and bought all out tickets together so that there will be 7 of us generally making arses and irritating the expletive out of all the fairweathers.

Not at all - we're trying to use the one as a means of getting the other. It worked at Forest, accepted as the best away atmosphere this season, even without any goals to encourage the singing!

 

Experience shows that in big games, when we have to sit in ticket numbered seats, there are insufficient willing singers sat together to start singing loud enough to encourage others to join in. So why not try to get the willing singers sat together? If they're sat at the back of each section, even if not permitted to stand, the noise created should reverberate down through our fans towards the players.

 

Do you think it's worth a try?

Top idea I think. I'll be singing and making a general arse of myself whereever I am (i know im upstairs but not sure wear) probably irritating a bunch of fairweather fans.

If the BBC say something then it must be true. Surely if we had a problem all us regulars would have noticed and you'd also expect us to know a lot more than a BBC reporter who is on a day trip to the grim north for the day.

Yeh agreed. Although I made the stupid mistake of trying to have a sensible debate with them and have just been told that someone wants to cut my throat. Haven't posted on a forum for years, and never have on opposition boards. However the treatment of hughes and the lack of coverage about it has baffled me.

If it was a millwall board then it really isnt worth bothering. They are something else.

Sure Oldham doesn't have the most visionary council, and, in parts, the borough could be described as deprived/run-down etc, but tell me the name of a northern town/city that isn't.

 

There's some 'bad' schools in Oldham, but there are plenty of good schools located in the borough, from Grammar schools to 'church' schools, to well-performing comprehensives. There's also Oldham Sixth Form College which punches well above is weight when you compare it to other sixth form colleges located in areas similar to the Oldham area. There's Oldham College which offers a massive range of courses, and of course the Oldham campus of Huddersfield University which although quite small, will inevitable grow and become more prestigious once it moves to a bigger campus. There are plenty of people come from all the neighbouring boroughs to be schooled/educated in the Oldham area.

 

As for employment opportunities, Oldham doesn't fare greatly compared to other towns in the country, and the average wage is very low - but if you have a bit of something about you just get on a bus to Manchester, Stockport, or the new business park in Rochdale, or even drive to Leeds and Lancashire - there are so many opportunities within easy commuting distance. Outside of London and the South East, you'll be hard pressed to find a better base than Oldham for exploring employment opportunities with easy commuting distance.

 

oafc0000, I think you, like many others, are falling into the trap of taking cheap shots at Oldham. Either that or you've not explained your reasons for leaving properly.

 

Please tell me the name of this great place you have moved to.

Except you are better placed if you live in Manchester, Stockport Leeds Etc and the council tax is cheaper elsewhere.

I think the libel and slander laws require the comments to be directed against named individuals rather than a group ie "fans". The injured individual would also have to demonstrate that he had suffered because of the slander and that would be impossible to prove based on what has been said so far.

I find it an interesting thing really. He is talking about Oldham fans, so why can we not be a named group. You don't have to an "individual" for it to affect you.... though maybe I am clutching at straws.

It was proven in some research project recently that people are more likley to believe gossip than the truth (then again that could just have been gossip).

I'm sick of this violence accusation and mention of us being yobs.

 

If Mr. Hewitt and co. had decided not to boycott the democratic process of the planning meeting they would have seen a large number of 'yobs' sat through the whole process in silence and with respect; even when we were faced with the incoherent ramblings of Councillor Pendlebury. It seemed that even Mr. Bashforth had got sick of him.

 

The only slight change to a normal planning meeting would have been the spontanious round of applause when outline permission was granted. I doubt this happens when somebody gets the go-ahead for a conservatory or something, but in this case it was just an outpouring of relief that common sense had prevailed.

I think that unless Hewitt can specify what he is on about in meaning violent then maybe we all should look at getting legal advice on this mattter. If that is not libel, then what is. We have had enough problems in this town caused by ignorant attitudes and I think that the club and its fans have been unfairly hit by such things in the past i.e. race riots etc.

It is obvious that Hewitt is trying to “spin” this situation to make it sound like the Politicians of this town have been forced into change through the acts of a thuggish minority. When of course it’s the acts of a democratic majority that has thankfully managed to progress the stadium development.

The problem we don’t want is to have a London Hack turn up with ideas of thugs/hooligans etc and then link it back to previous troubles in this town in the manner we expect of tabloid press i.e. why let facts get in the way of a good story.

The residents need to put up and shut up now and work with the club to make the development as pleasing as possible. Very petty....

And in 5 or 6 years time have a big moan about how there house prices have gone up.