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10 hours ago, johnafoafc said:

Always thought Barraclough would move on in the summer as he wasn't Shez's appointment. I expected Shez to appoint his own man in due course. I expected Barraclough to link up with Robinson again once he got the Motherwell gig.

 

Wright would have to eat a bit of humble pie coming back here. During the sting he was recorded as saying words to the effect that he was fed up of driving hundreds of miles to scout for bargain basement deals. Something he'd have to get used to doing again in he returned to BP

I'm sure Robinson had a hand in Barraclough getting the NI under 21s job. He may well end up combining it with the Mortherwell assisntant's job, just as Robinson did before him.

Shez does want to bring his own team in over summer. I think he would like Tommy Wright to be part of it. However, the fact that the police investigation in to his alleged corrupt activities is still ongoing may be a stumbling block.

2 minutes ago, philliggi said:

Harbin would get my vote he was the key behind Dowies success. Is it true he has been to games? First I've heard

Wasn't Harbin a fitness/ conditioning coach rather than assistant manager?

His background was in Rugby League.

19 hours ago, lookersstandandy said:

Corney said 14 players contracted. Which ones were they?

 

Gerrard

Dummigan

Clarke

Flynn

Banks

Fane

Holloway

Fawns

....and who else....?

 

Presumably options have been activated for....

Stott

McLaughlin

.....but that's still only 10!?!

 

....does that mean 4 of the players with contracts up this summer have options of which we were unaware, or Law, Mantack & Knight have had theirs activated?

 

I'd like 3 of them to be....

Edmundson

Mantack

Obadeyi

....and then it's a toss up between Wilson & Green?!?

I was thinking the same thing.

It could be that deals have already been agreed with a  few out of contract players (not neccesarliy those we have options on) contingent on survival being achieved.

1 hour ago, GravityGrave said:

If Fleetwood stay down there's a good chance of Rosler being courted by bigger clubs & they'll likely be loosing some of their better players . I'd rather Bolton go up.  

 

Heard Rossler is being lined up by Norwich for next season regardless of whether Fleetwood go up or stay down.

2 hours ago, davidshaw said:

Ok, somewhat of a tangent but very relevant, I think, having read this and some other threads.

 

Putting aside this fiasco for one minute, what really bothers me is the apparent gulf between the Trust and "the board" (accepting that the Trust have one seat on the board). As a newcomer to this forum it honestly appears as an "us and them". The Trust and the board should have shared aims and values for the benefit of fans and Latics generally. I have no idea how the rift has come about but it has to be repaired and quickly. It really is pointless having a Trust if it is at loggerheads with the club all the time (and a recent response that relations are rated at 3 out of 10 suggest that is the case). I`ve heard it mentioned that a 3% shareholding gives the Trust some leverage - in my experience, a 3% shareholding is hardly worth having from the viewpoint of leverage and influence.

 

I am not criticising the Trust per se but, for now, perhaps they should concentrate solely on getting the relationship back on an even keel. That may not go down well with some but it is critical if the Trust is to achieve its wider objectives. Managing such relationships is not easy as personality and egos come into play and people can soon become entrenched in their views and develop a siege mentality. That may explain the regular flow of negative comments on here (some justified for sure, by the way). It is up to the leader of the Trust to negotiate/persuade/influence and then set the scene going forward.

 

So, just an appeal to the Trust really - stop squabbling, clear the air with the club and fans like me might then consider joining. At present it doesn't appeal simply because my perception is that it is too negative in its approach (again, I accept I don't have intimate detail but it is a perception I have gleaned - presumably others do too?)

We'd all love there to be an excellent relationship between club and trust all the time, but I don't think the trust are engaged in petty squabbling here.

For years on end, under the previous regime, they were widely criticised for never questioning the club's actions and not being an effective voice for the fans.  It seems that all they have done is ask some very pertinent questions of the club, and received some confusing answers. 

I don't think they should stop asking questions about such significant issues just because the club are uncomfortable with being held to account on such matters.

24 minutes ago, Stevie_J said:

Especially when it appears the club may very well not own said boards.

I assume this is one of the things the Trust are looking for clarity on.

It could well be that the company SC has set up will be used solely for acting as a UK agent for selling Ledman's boards to other clubs, and we shouldn't assume otherwise.

But if that company does own the boards, there's absolutely no way the scoreboard fund should have been used to fund them, with or without the offer of refunds.

In his LP interview this afternoon, Shez says he was asked to give an opinion on the youth team lads, but stressed that he hadn't seen much of them at all, and the decisions were made by the youth team coaches.

5 minutes ago, singe said:

The obvious question is what happens to the unclaimed money.

Probably safe to assume it's staying in the club coffers. If it wasn't they'd have said so in the statement.

If they've really not spent it, I think it would be better to transfer the fund over to the trust.

They could then give people the option of having their money back or it being spent on something else (e.g. playershare fund, JFS stand sign etc) .

Giving people 3 working days to claim their cash back over school holidays, suggests they're hoping not too many people take them up on the offer of a refund.

2 hours ago, underdog said:

Genuine question...as a fan who has either bought, thinking of buying, every bought a season ticket.

 

What do you see you ST money spent on?

 

Next season players, club up keep? 

 

Curious to see what we all thought

 

thanks in advance

Renewed my 2 tickets today. There was no discount period for them.

I think, if you buy a season ticket, your expectations should not extend beyond all the fixtures that you have paid for being fulfilled. As long as that happens you've got what you paid for and the club can spend that money however they see fit.

In buying a season ticket you get a substantial discount vs pay on the day. 

If you pay on the day you pay more but have the right to not pay for games if you're not happy with the product on the pitch or are unhappy with other aspects of how the club is being run.

6 minutes ago, UsedtobeWozzer said:

Marc Klok has left Dundee. I think his time may be up.

Played less than 45 minutes, so obviously didn't impress.

Sounds fairly healthy that, given that there will inevitably be quite a few sold tomorrow to those who cant get doen during the week and there are several categories (concessions, juniors, 100 club etc) for whom this first deadline doesn't have any effect.

In months and years gone by, many on here have commented that the Trust Directors say nothing about events at the football club and  have watched on silently as the club lurches from crisis to crisis.

Given that they chose, on the whole, not to comment openly on here about the turbulent events of recent seasons, despite much consternation on this board, the fact that they have now chosen to alter that stance now appears failry significant to me. 

i.e.  they are probably telling us that they think the current situation is worse than it has been in recent seasons and they are worried enough about it to run the risk of damaging their relationship with the club, in order to make the fans aware of the gravity of the situation, as they see it.

No doubt they are particularly upset  about the way they have been treated over the scoreboard fund, but I don't believe this is their only cause for concern - the winding up order, their rep on the board being misinformed about board meeting times and excluded from the boardroom on matchdays, the  mysterious loan etc. There may well be other things that aren't yet in the public domain that they don't feel able to talk about.

I've no idea how bad the finaincial situation at the club is. It may  be no worse than it has been for several years and we are just more aware these days, through social media etc,  of some of things that have always been going on behind the scenes at a struggling football club. That is certainly the message the club appears to be putting out.

But I do think it's naive to dismiss the sudden change in approach by Trust Directors, in terms of what they are willing to say on here, as scaremongering or scheming. They've had ample opportunity over the past several years to do that, if that was their motivation.

Given that I mentioned earlier in the thread that I'd emailed the club and had no reply, it's only fair to mention i have had a reply now.

1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

Is it one or two per season ticket?

The email doesn't explicitly state this but it infered it was 1 per person.

Received an email from the club.

They are available to 100 club members and Exec box holders from now.

They go on sale to other season ticket holders  on Friday and any remaining tickets will go on general sale on 18 April.

1 hour ago, HarryBosch said:

 

Why £5k a go? 

 

 

It's probably more than that. I don't think Mr. Corney flies in Economy on long haul.

I'm sure Corney said that, although it offered a better long term return, the cost of digital perimeter advertising was far higher than a scoreboard. I wonder how the difference is being funded. 

May be the Chinese guy gave us a discount by way of apology for deciding not to buy the club.

19 minutes ago, josh_latics said:

I've also emailed that address with no response, MQT. Absolute shower. 

Me too. They have published no information at all about 100 club renewals, so I emailed that address to try to get some info, but have had no reply yet.

 

Would they be this lazy when trying to attract sponsors, box holders, 100 club members?

 

Yes they would. They haven't published 100 club prices for next season and haven't been in contact either.

Where will the points come from - who knows? We will have to average Robinson's paltry .79 pts per game to fall short of a 50pt total.

 

On the other hand if we average Sheridan's 1.78pts per game we will finish on 57pts.

 

There is no indication whatsoever we are about to slump to Robinson's level.

 

Why look for a calamity that's unavoidable anyway?

I think we'll beat at least 1 of the top teams we're supposed to lose to.

Wilson looks so much more accomplished at left back. Him and Law are both right footed but Wilson can at least use his left foot when necessary. Law looked terrified in that position.

Reckord is clearly so low on confidence that he isn't worth the risk.

I'd play Wilson left back and law right back assuming Hunt isn't fit.

I'd also have Law back on set pieces. Banks over hit everything last night.

Landed on his feet there to get another management job so quickly. But wish him well. I don't think anyone would doubt that he works hard. Hopefully he has learned from his mistakes with us.

I think he has a genuine case for unfair dismissal. If they were going to sack him for his swearing they would have done it before the 4th game of his suspension. The match report would have been available a few days after the incident so no reason to delay. The fact he was on a losing run and lost his last game is the clear reason why they sacked him. Notts might be paying up massively for this one. Especially with him on a long term deal there before he returned to us.

Agreed. He might get a nice pay out from that. Which ironically might be of benefit to us if it means he doesn't feel the need to start looking around for higher paid jobs again in the summer, having saved us from relegation.

So then what is the answer to the original question in the interview? Nobody appears to have answered about his reply so far as per the player teaser.

 

Whilst obvious he wont be here what did he actually say?

He said he would go back to Boro at the end of the season and find out what their plans are for him. Ideally he wants to get in the first team at Boro. But if not possible he'd go out on loan again. Said Shez had asked him to come back here and Motherwell would also be an option for him.

One of the questions he was asked was McDonald's or KFC?

The interviewer then asked if he was allowed to eat that sort of stuff and he said it was a fine for him because keepers don't need to be as fit as outfield players.